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Author Topic: YA Adventure/Suspense: DAGGERS OF ALAMUT  (Read 242 times)
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« on: May 28, 2012, 07:49:37 AM »

Hoping to tap the collective wisdom of the forum.  Any suggestions are welcomed!


In 1929, a pair of twelve-year old cousins arrives on the New Jersey shore to spend the summer with their grandfather, the singular Colonel Horatius Battersea.  Maxine and William soon discover, however, that the old man's career as a British soldier, world explorer and foreign agent has earned him a fair share of formidable enemies and family secrets.

The skeletons in Colonel Battersea's closet become flesh and blood when an ancient cult of desert assassins descends on Battersea Manor in pursuit of a mysterious package, wrenching the cousins from their grandfather's protection and sweeping them away on a swirling current that leads from the manor's hidden passages to the streets of New York City, across the dark leagues of the Atlantic aboard the exotic steamship Levantine, and finally to the shifting sands that lie beyond the distant shores of Araby.  There in a far country, Maxine and William make a desperate bid to find Grandpa Battersea and deliver the elusive parcel before their scattered family is lost forever, and all the while their steps are haunted by the shadowy specter of the murderous Hashashin.

Along the way, the cousins must rely on the love of a grandfather they have never known, and measure themselves against an ominous adult world of gangsters and drifters, heiresses and opera stars, sheiks and ghouls, as they slide toward a final collision with the leader of the Hashashin himself, the Old Man of the Mountain.

Set in a time when the world was wider and wilder and “Adventuring” was a bona fide occupation that captivated the minds of young and old alike, THE DAGGERS OF ALAMUT (87,000) offers a fresh take on period fiction and classic adventure literature.  It shares the soul of matinee cliffhangers and radio serials, and will appeal to YA readers of books like Iain Lawrence's THE WRECKERS and Eoin Colfer's AIRMAN.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 11:54:24 AM »

Hiya,

Welcome.  i enjoyed all the juicy atmospheric details. You can omit your third paragraph. I struck the first sentence of your fourth paragraph in the interest of brevity, but I hated doing it. : )   The one thing I think the query needs is a slightly less mysterious statement of the stakes expressed in the second paragraph.  Your elegant writing almost makes up for that lack, but i'd push that element a little harder.  Good luck!



In 1929, a pair of twelve-year old cousins arrives on the New Jersey shore to spend the summer with their grandfather, the singular Colonel Horatius Battersea.  Maxine and William soon discover, however, that the old man's career as a British soldier, world explorer and foreign agent has earned him a fair share of formidable enemies and family secrets.

The skeletons in Colonel Battersea's closet become flesh and blood when an ancient cult of desert assassins descends on Battersea Manor in pursuit of a mysterious package. Wrenched the cousins from their grandfather's protection, circumstances sweep sweeping tandhem the cousins away on a swirling current that leads from the manor's hidden passages to the streets of New York City, across the dark leagues of the Atlantic aboard the exotic steamship Levantine, and finally to the shifting sands that lie beyond the distant shores of Araby.  There in a far country, Maxine and William make a desperate bid to find Grandpa Battersea and deliver the elusive parcel before their scattered familyis lost forever (vague), and all the while their steps are haunted by the shadowy specter of the murderous Hashashin.

Along the way, the cousins must rely on the love of a grandfather they have never known, and measure themselves against an ominous adult world of gangsters and drifters, heiresses and opera stars, sheiks and ghouls, as they slide toward a final collision with the leader of the Hashashin himself, the Old Man of the Mountain

Set in a time when the world was wider and wilder and “Adventuring” was a bona fide occupation that captivated the minds of young and old alike, THE DAGGERS OF ALAMUT (87,000) offers a fresh take on period fiction and classic adventure literature.  It shares the soul of matinee cliffhangers and radio serials, and will appeal to YA readers of books like Iain Lawrence's THE WRECKERS and Eoin Colfer's AIRMAN.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 02:10:49 AM »

Hoping to tap the collective wisdom of the forum.  Any suggestions are welcomed!


In 1929, a pair of twelve-year old cousins arrives on the New Jersey shore to spend the summer with their grandfather, the singular Colonel Horatius Battersea.  Maxine and William soon discover, however, that the old man's career as a British soldier, world explorer and foreign agent has earned him a fair share of formidable enemies and family secrets.

The skeletons in Colonel Battersea's closet become flesh and blood when an ancient cult of desert assassins descends on Battersea Manor in pursuit of a mysterious package, wrenching the cousins Wretchedfrom their grandfather's protection Maxine and William are and sweeping them swept away on a swirling current that leads from the manor's hidden passages to the streets of New York City, across the dark leagues of the Atlantic aboard the exotic steamship Levantine, and finally to the shifting sands that lie beyond the distant shores of Araby.  There in a far country, Maxine and William make a desperate bid to find Grandpa Battersea and deliver the elusive parcel before their scattered familyunclear is lost forever, and all the while their steps are haunted by the shadowy specter of the murderous Hashashin.
Along the way, the cousins must rely on the love of a grandfather they have never known, and measure themselves against an ominous adult world of gangsters and drifters, heiresses and opera stars, sheiks and ghouls, as they slide toward a final collision with the leader of the Hashashin himself, the Old Man of the Mountain.unnecessary

Set in a time when the world was wider and wilder and “Adventuring” was a bona fide occupation that captivated the minds of young and old alike, THE DAGGERS OF ALAMUT (87,000) offers a fresh take on period fiction and classic adventure literature.  It shares the soul of matinee cliffhangers and radio serials, and will appeal to YA readers of books like Iain Lawrence's THE WRECKERS and Eoin Colfer's AIRMAN.


I just noticed that a lot of my comments match swanndown's  Grin
A solid query, just a little tweeking here and there. I cut the third paragraph, but I still think you could add Hashashin and a couple other points in the plot description itself. Right now, the third paragraph seems added on since you ended the conflict in the second paragraph. But you still have room for more, so I'd simply shove things around so that your 'cliff hanger' ending ( ...scattered family is lost forever.) comes at the end.

My biggest comment would be with your MC's age and the fact that this is a YA. Usually (and I stress usually because there are always exceptions), YA is with characters over 14 and MG under. Your MS is much too long for an MG, though. The reason for this age break is simply because YA readers (teenagers) don't sympathize with 'little kids' - what highschooler wants to read about a sixth/seventh grader?

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 09:02:37 AM »

Really helpful suggestions.  I will take them to heart, especially since they are in stereo!  Have to sit and think about the age issue... maybe as simple as a find and replace : )  MY MCs are a little gee whiz but that might fly given the time period.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 10:11:51 AM »

Hey, Chokecherry, that was downright eerie - and funny!  Maybe we can ghostwrite for each other?  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 02:11:03 PM »

Lol! Maybe that's the best way to success!
I'm thinking that we should never beta eachother, though.... wouldn't do any good  rofl
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 02:46:57 PM »

@chokecherry: Ha! Too true.

@abrumbach: Apologies for our little hijacking there.  I wanted to comment additionally on the relationship between length and genre.  As Chokecherry has pointed out, the standard word count for MG is lower (between 30 and 50,000 or so), and the usual YA protagonist does indeed tend to be older.  But it's a fact that many "upper" MG books have higher word counts. (Think Rowling, Riordan, plus a whole lot of lesser known folks)

Those giving advice often urge debut writers to be conservative, and stick to the norm. The fear and reasonable concern is that among other things, agents or editors might pre-judge a manuscript with a high word count as reflective of an author's inability to edit.  When I got my agent, the word count I presented with was a tad lower, but I'm about to go on submission with a 75,000 word upper middle grade novel that at one point in the revision process had gone up to 84,000 words.  Open question as to how editors will react, or if the word count will be an issue.  I know my agent has been very focused on making sure that the manuscript goes out scrupulously and mercilessly edited! All expendable Darlings, have been, well, expended. If you're attached to both your 12 year olds and your higher word count, you'll have to present as a crack editor of your own work. 
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