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ElvenLight
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« on: July 03, 2018, 12:18:31 PM »

I recently got a request for my book on #sffpit from Renee Frey, a founder of Authors 4 Authors Publishing. I got a request for my full from them today (yay!) but I was curious about them. They look brand new, and I think they were founded earlier this year, but if anyone has any info about them, I’d love to hear it. Their website is kind of vague.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 02:15:26 PM »

Personally, I would be wary of them. To me it seems like a lot of these groups of authors are popping up that want to "help other authors." In general, these people only seem to have the ability to offer what you could do on your own when self-publishing while taking a significant cut of the royalties. (As opposed to a one-time fee for things such as editing or cover design). Also, if editing is one of the things they are offering, I caught at least one mistake on their website, and anytime I catch a mistake on a site of a company offering editing services I am wary. Perhaps the social marketing is worth it, but I can't see how when none of them seem to have a record of sales and there is only one listed author besides them.

I got a like from a very similar sounding group (Ant Press) in a past pitch contest, and decided if I am going to go the self-pub route, I might as well do it on my own and keep all of my royalties.

Again, not to say anything bad because I don't have any experience with them. But I would seriously consider:

- What expertise are they bringing to the table? Do they have more experience in the publishing industry than you? Do they have a history of success?
- What are they offering that you can't do on your own? Is it worth it to divide your royalties or would you rather pay a one-time fee for these things.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 03:13:49 PM »

Thanks. I got a few bad vibes from them when I studied their website further. I don’t think I’ll be submitting my full to them. The fact that they don’t have any publishing experience is worrying all on its own. They seem like they’re a bit too eager just to start their list of published books more than anything else.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 03:39:12 PM »

Authors4Authors' (A4A) website says the company has three principals. Their publishing credits consist of inclusion in fantasy anthologies published by Rowanwood Publishing LLC.

Rowanwood itself is a "micropublisher" with, at present, six titles to its credit: five fantasy anthologies and one novel, all either written or edited by its co-owners. Rowandwood appears to have gotten its seed money from Kickstarter. The business model relies on ebooks and print-on-demand.

There's no apparent link between A4A and Rowanwood; but my guess is, A4A is patterning itself after the publisher its principals used, which means ebook and print-on-demand. (Their website doesn't say.)

A4A lists no titles of its own.

A4A's website says its authors can "...help with cover selection... and other production decisions" and can draw promotional support from "authors helping authors" and from "...access to our network of blog tours, Facebook launch parties...."

Blog tours?... Facebook launch parties?

(btw, A4A also offers turn-key self-publishing services.)

Final note: A4A's site lists one "featured author" but Amazon shows no hits for anyone by that name.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 11:27:33 AM »

I submitted a previous project to them & recently tried to query them about a different project. Didn't have a great experience.

Sent them a query & chapter for a literary thriller. They said that thrillers weren't their specialty, but they were willing to take on my manuscript because they liked the query & sample pages. They requested a full. I sent them it. A different person at A4A got back to me about a month later and requested extensive changes to the novel (basically an R&R, but they phrased it differently). I disagreed with some of the edits but responded with a long email that generally said "I will do my best to make these edits" while also trying to explain why I disagreed with some of their assessments and apologized for being a bit stubborn. This person told me to make the edits I felt comfortable with and resubmit.

I was feeling a little down, so I posted in a forum on a writing workshop site about how I had been talking with my girlfriend about my writing and I was feeling down because of this request for extensive edits. They saw this forum post apparently.

Flash forward to August. I'm querying a thriller, so I sent it to them since they were open to publishing my last thriller (even with it being outside of their requested genres). I got a very terse email back that night, within which they said they don't think A4A would be the best place for my "crime and thriller centric stories." They also linked to that forum post and said they wouldn't want to "waste my time" and seemed to conflate my conversation with my girlfriend, which I posted about, as being a condemnation of them (which it was not). They then closed the email by insulting my writing and citing my stubbornness as reasons why we would not work well together.

Obviously I am at fault here, too. I was still dipping my toe into the query process so I had never encountered an R&R before and I could have responded more professionally, and posting on the forum was probably not the wisest move.

With all of this said, I don't think they're a bad company. They're clearly new & I don't know how effective they are since my book never made it past the submission phase (for what it's worth, the person who rejected my novel and sent me that email has never had a novel published, not that I could find at least). So while I wouldn't work with them again, even if they were open to working with me, that doesn't mean they would be "bad."
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