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Title: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 03:06:01 PM
It had to happen eventually.

Upon hijacking my very own thread just a short time ago, I decided to take a bit of entreprenurial initiative and open up this nutty & rustic little dive just on the outskirts of Query Tracker.  Thought that perhaps if anyone at all sensed that a given thread was spiralling wildly off-topic, they could post a little note saying something like "Banter moved to The Tavern." 

Such businesses are admittedly risky endeavors, but considering the basic tenants of supply-side economics... Well, banter is in abundance here.  Thought a cozy tavern setting where we all can gab & laugh & spill drinks over one another might be just the depository for our conversational fodder.

I am sure a few of you are concerned about age restrictions and/or having a proper ID.  This will assuredly not be an issue, as there are no such laws in our wacky wilderness.

Drinks will be served under the Cup-Runneth-Over principle, so dress appropriately.

It is, to be sure, a veritable bigtop in here.  This is where off-topics go to be turned on.

Or something less seedy sounding than that.

So pull up a stool & Welcome to QT's Quillkeeper Tavern!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 16, 2007, 04:41:52 PM
Well, hiya, howdy! What's on tap today?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 05:08:30 PM
Welcome, JW!  Very first customer gets all drinks on the house.  Today's special comes from our top shelf - a chilled shot of possibility!

If you'll notice to your right, our dart board is comprised of a rotating list of agency names, so if you've gotten a rough rejection note, grab a dart & take aim.

The jukebox is also always complimentary, so feel free to punch up a tune reflective of your mood.  Naturally, music lover that I am, I have installed a jukebox that contains every song in music history.

Later tonight our house band - Francis And The Fruit Loops - will be performing a short set of your requests.

Hold on... are you askin' for another shot already?

OK, but fair warning... Too many and I'll have to ask for your keyboard keys!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 06:23:29 PM
Does this dive have wireless access?  Hiccup.    Poor me another mug of encouragement, and make it a double.   :duet:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 06:41:44 PM
**rings bell like a manic monkey on a sugar jag**

Ladies and Gentlemen, drinks on the house!  The mayor of our questionably humble wilderness has stepped into the tavern!

Sir, I am truly honored.  A double shot of encouragement, you say?  Oh no - for you, the entire bottle.  Guzzle up - we have an endless supply.

We do indeed feature wireless access, but management is considering installing a force field around the tavern.  As this is a place for us quillkeepers to kick back and unspool their nerves, we are not sure access to email is wise.  Why constantly be checking for query replies when you could be tossing darts, or watching a game... or even inventing a game?!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 06:43:45 PM
I think I'll pass on the drinks... ;)
But, to officially use the purpose of this thread; hijack topic #1:
WHO IS THE NEW FRANCIS!??!?!!?!?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 06:48:04 PM
I think I'll pass on the drinks... ;)

Smart call, Miss Chelc.

I had assumed that you were the mischievous force behind the new Francis.  The timing alone made it seem a bit prank-ish.  But this is not true?  For real?  Because if it's not, your conjuring powers reach far beyond the human imagination.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 06:52:01 PM
No, I swear on...(um what's a legitimate thing to swear on?)...I swear on my MS that I didn't create that Francis. Audal, I thought it was you. Is it not?
Then my second guess would be JW
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 06:53:18 PM
There is a new Francis?  Where?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 06:55:03 PM
go to JW's "here goes...BC out the gate" and get caught up...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 06:55:40 PM
A new Francis joined shortly after I jokingly offered karma to the first person who could recruit an actual Francis.

Chelc - Nope, not me.  Pledge of 100% honesty here (now that the gender mystery is long since solved).

I've got a longshot bet on Lotheus... out creating a bit of merry mayhem, of which I believe he's fully capable.

But I really don't know for sure.  Puzzling.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 06:58:56 PM
I can check the logs, but I won't
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:00:38 PM
It HAS to be someone in on the joke. There is no way that a real Francis could have popped up that quickly. Now I'm mad  >:(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 07:02:56 PM
 :agree: :agree:

But y'know, what are these boards without some sort of identity mystery?

But just in case, bases must be covered... Chelc, conjure us all up a positive response by the end of August.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:05:27 PM
Well, now with the faux Francis, it won't work to call you Francis, Aud! So whoever did it...beware.  >:D
But just in case, bases must be covered... Chelc, conjure us all up a positive response by the end of August.
And why me?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 07:10:44 PM

And why me?
[/quote]

Because you're the one who conjured up a Francis, what with your "Oh, Francis! Come to mmeeeee! I want more karma!" chant.

Shortly thereafter, voila!  Francis! 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:16:11 PM
Maybe Francis is a legitimate new user who just happened to be reading the forum before joining, and though he/she would have a little fun.  It's possible.

Who wants me to remove their smitedness?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:16:28 PM
Oh dear...maybe his appearance was just my subconscious. That means you owe me 2 karmas!  :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
Remove mine Pat, please oh please oh please!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 07:19:51 PM
Who wants me to remove their smitedness?

If the smiting was valid, then I'll take it like a man-who-was-once-mistaken-for-a-woman and move on.  Appreciate the offer, though.  I'll just go with whatever the smittens decide - we all got it in the same minute, I think.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:22:36 PM
Very brave of you.  But you may be the only one left smitten, then you'll stand out.  Oh, I get it.  Then you'll be the bad boy and the women will flock to you.  That's brilliant.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:22:50 PM
HEY!
HEY!
WHO DID THAT???  >:( >:(
102 SMITE POINTS?!??
PATRICK!
 :'(
I am unloved...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:24:03 PM
now it's 103?
someone hates me... :( :( :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:24:12 PM
Oops sorry, I meant to remove your smite, but hit a wrong key.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:24:53 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:25:09 PM
There you go.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:28:00 PM
I hope Francis isn't real, because I just upped his/her smites.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:28:13 PM
 ;D
Okay.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 16, 2007, 07:31:07 PM
Very brave of you.  But you may be the only one left smitten, then you'll stand out.  Oh, I get it.  Then you'll be the bad boy and the women will flock to you.  That's brilliant.

Shhhh... don't tell anyone my tavern trade secrets!

Actually, maybe since everyone has been rendered un-smote, I guess I could get the tattoo lasered off if you have the time.

Must admit, though... Shame to see Chelc out of the -100's.  I was just about to hire her royal nastiness to be the Tavern Bouncer!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:32:31 PM
See Chelc, you missed out on a job.  Want me to put the smites back?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 16, 2007, 07:33:34 PM
That should take care of all the smites.  Did I miss anyone?

I feel so pure again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 07:33:52 PM
Nope. Might I remind you of that little underage thing?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 16, 2007, 08:30:36 PM
Did you think i did not notice that I have been accused of conjuring a Francis? I wish I were that clever BUT..
I say it was Mr. Mustard in the Kitchen with a Pipe.
No..it was DANIEL on his mother's laptop with both index fingers!
Notice how quiet he's been? It's not because he's too young to imbibe in this sparkling wit.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 16, 2007, 09:17:27 PM
Oh, sorry J... ;D
Guess is wasn't you.
OH DAAAAANNN! DID YOU MAKE A FRANCIS?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 17, 2007, 12:41:51 AM
No sorry. I'm not that clever. But I smote Francis, just for giggles.

My take: every member of the forum is one single person. I/we am/are schizophrenic. So Francis is all of us/me, and I/we am/are Francis.

Hope that clears things up ... I installed a camera by my computer and found myself typing as every member here. I don't remember it, but the camera doesn't lie.... But of course, when it comes to your turn at the 80-personalitied me, you'll see the recording too, so every part of me will figure it out eventually....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 01:22:01 AM
Nice, Dan!  As 80+ people, I'm sure at least one of the eventual query letters will hit home!  I only hope you don't have to compete with your other 79 selves.

Seriously though, I sympathize.  It's tough being friends with a schizophrenic. 

(drum roll... wait for it...)

Especially if he's people you really like.  :m:

OK, everyone... closing up tavern doors for the night... Last call!  :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:33:41 AM
Oooohh....  I can tell I'm gonna like this thread!! :wine:  Nice work Audal.  And Chelc is scaring me.  Conjuring members up out of thin air.  I think her circle is now complete.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Francis on August 17, 2007, 02:02:57 AM
*Shoulders up to the bar*  BARTENDER!!  DRINKS FOR FRANCIS!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 17, 2007, 05:09:11 AM
Francis is one of us/me, for sure. He doesn't write like a newbie.

 :rolf: His karma points are abysmal.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 08:47:54 AM
I think it's quite obvious who Francis is. There's a *bold-faced* giveaway.
You guys are in a different time-zone than me! I miss on all the fun. I go to bed, you're all eating dinner. I wake up and you've been at it all night.
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 10:01:37 AM
Uh oh.  Tavern's got itself an early bird!  Our first official barfly, maybe?  A regular like Norm from Cheers?  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
Hold on...Francis is BACK?
I'm scared now.
This is turning into one of those "who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?" scenarios....'cept its "who created Francis and ruined Chelc's fun calling Audal francis???"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 11:33:58 AM
*Hiccup*...a glass of courage to face my reluctant WIP, please, Fraudy.

Hey..I AM creeped out by the new Francis. It's like an alter-ego evil doppelganger we've created run amok.

And...*conspiratorial whisper* we still don't know who the Smiter is.
The plot thickens.

Wow. We even have local gossip in our town watering hole.
hiccup.

BTW...I am on NY time, gang.. so early for you is midday for me. I got up at 9:30 AM and you were all asleep.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 11:49:22 AM
*Hiccup*

Uh oh.  Looks like someone already needs us to call her a cab to take her to her WIP.

(slides her a double-shot anyway)

JW's tavern persona:  an odd amalgam of JK Rowling & Janis Joplin?

The gossip depository is indeed abuzz with riddles.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 11:58:27 AM
Who me? *burp*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
Man! I'm gone for a couple of days and the whole forum explodes!!! Loving the pics all of you! JW - I did a double take on yours, though. I thought you were holding a poodle.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 12:05:37 PM
It was before I strangled it. *burp*

This is from the day after I dropped my daughter at sleepaway camp and I was giddy with my freedom).

Like aren't you due to give birth any second??? I hope you'll post a baby pic when our first QT spawn enters the world.

This is funny, because I don't really need alcohol to act like a loon. It just sends me further over the top and then fast asleep after one glass.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Francis on August 17, 2007, 12:09:15 PM
I think you people need to get it through your heads that I AM FRANCIS!   :bash:  Francis I will remain.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 12:13:14 PM
Will do! I am supposed to give birth any day, but it just isn't happening!  :'( I've got two weeks then I'm scheduled to be induced on the 31st!
 :p2:  :y:  :hooray:

Then I can finally hang out at the tavern with everyone else
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 12:15:46 PM
JW, why do you keep saying you look boring? There's nothing wrong with your appearance! Gosh.
And "Francis" I'm on to you...you better beware, not I. :flame:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 12:17:48 PM
Yeah, JW... Your festive I-am-woman-watch-me-frolic look is exactly the kinda vitality we need at the tavern! (and not in a mascot kind of way, either!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 12:23:53 PM
Ok - I've been inspired by everyones bravery.  :ride:  Here's me prepregnancy...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 12:25:18 PM
Who's batman?  :rof3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 12:26:45 PM
 :zip: I can't tell you that! That's why it's a SECRET identity. Sheesh!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
Haha, okay.
But I don't have any normal pictures to show you guys...all of mine are with friends and I'm making funny faces.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 12:29:23 PM
Wow, you're with Batman.   :eek:  I'm jealous in a geeky sort of way.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Francis on August 17, 2007, 12:32:57 PM
Your smilies don't frighten me, Chelc.  It will take more than a cheesy graphic to exorcise this demon!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 12:33:19 PM
Wow, you're with Batman.   :eek:  I'm jealous in a geeky sort of way.

It's true, and though they've tried, you just can't top the original!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
Bruce Wayne is Batman, Chelc.  Duh! ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 12:50:44 PM
Woo-hoo!  The Tavern is building quite a photo collection for our Wall-Of-Fame!

Drinks all around!

I can clearly see how Chelc won the Teen Team Presidential Election.

Sheer intimidation.

Be afraid, Francis.  All I'm sayin'.

And I'd also like to welcome Batman to the forum.  Sir, it is an honor, and thank you for leaving that useless-sidekick-just-there-for-the-residual-glory Robin at home.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 12:53:02 PM
And I'd also like to welcome Batman to the forum.  Sir, it is an honor, and thank you for leaving that pansy Robin at home.
Careful Aud, there are children here. "Pansy" is a rather offensive term.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 12:56:40 PM
It is?

Well then... 'scuse me while I re-write.  Chelc - rewrite in accord?  Thousand times sorry.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Francis on August 17, 2007, 12:59:07 PM
Wow, I am scared.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 01:02:45 PM
Where's your photo, oh, humble barkeep, or are you the real Batman? (he does have that sort of Bruce Wayne inflection).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 01:07:18 PM
Wait..did I say I was boring? Only that my normalish exterior belies what lurks within. I give a very good impersonation of a soccer mom in my real life. No one suspects. (well..I guess after about an hour with me everyone just KNOWS). Chelc..you would scare the daylights out of my son (he basically avoids most humans), but my daughter would follow you like a puppy. You look like her kind of pal. I mean, when she is your age.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:07:58 PM
Well, we know he's not Robin!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 01:08:15 PM
It is?

Well then... 'scuse me while I re-write.  Chelc - rewrite in accord?  Thousand times sorry.
Yes, at least in my school it's offensive...not something you want to hear in civilized conversation. Then again...this site is going quite haywire...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:09:00 PM
Pansy is a flower.  Oh, and great pics, Chelc!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:09:41 PM
Or a name you call King Arthur if you're the Black Knight.  Anyone get that one?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 01:11:45 PM
Yeah, a pansy is a flower...but not in slang. Oh go google it yourself. And thanks Lo  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 01:12:05 PM
Or a name you call King Arthur if you're the Black Knight.  Anyone get that one?
No....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 01:12:15 PM
My favorite movie ever, Lotheus!!!
My cell ring tone is: "Bring out 'yer dead!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 01:13:20 PM
I have adjusted the P-Word from my post.  But I think we've got a generational disconnect on the term itself.  That said, I'm tryin' to run a business here, and rampaging wisconsinites are intergral to the flow.

A pic of the barkeep? 

Here:  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 01:15:40 PM
Smooth.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:28:44 PM
I wish you hadn't said that, Senshi.  Now I'm going to have to stalk you until you agree enter into a polygamous marriage.  "I'm not dead!"  "Here, he says he's not dead."
"Yes, he is."
"I'm not!"
"He isn't."
Oh, man, look what you've done...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 01:33:28 PM
Drink up me hearties, yo ho!

 :toast: :wine: :duet:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 01:34:47 PM
I have a six-foot standee of Captain Jack in my living room.  Quite disconcerting sometimes...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
I'd freak out if I had to see that in the middle of the night.

This would be me:

BURGLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :draw:

NO! I JUST SHOT JOHNNY DEPP!  :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 01:49:58 PM
I wish you hadn't said that, Senshi.  Now I'm going to have to stalk you until you agree enter into a polygamous marriage.  "I'm not dead!"  "Here, he says he's not dead."
"Yes, he is."
"I'm not!"
"He isn't."
Oh, man, look what you've done...

Now you've got me going!
"Well he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better"
"No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment."
 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
I'd freak out if I had to see that in the middle of the night.

This would be me:

BURGLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :draw:

NO! I JUST SHOT JOHNNY DEPP!  :'(
HA! I'd be thinking the same... ;D
Johnny Depp  :hearts:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 02:03:00 PM
Amen.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:10:54 PM
"I think I'll go for a walk!"
"Couldn't you wait around for a bit?"
"Nah, I've got to go to the Robinsons'.  They've lost nine today."
"When's your next run?"
"Thursday."
"Isn't there something you can do?"
"I feel happy!  I feel-- Ooomph!"
"Ah, thanks very much."
"Not at all.  See you on Thursday."
"Right."

Oh, this is bad.  I may have to bring out the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
Don't even get me started on the knights who say "Neeee!" ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:15:15 PM
What are you 2 quoting?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:15:30 PM
You mean the knights who say, icky-icky-icky ftang zoop boing zoop zouzm...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:16:10 PM
Ah, my young Padawan.  Go out right now and rent The Holy Grail by monty Python.  This I order!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:18:16 PM
Oh, yeah...I'm kind of the only person on the planet who hasnt seen that...never had the chance... :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 02:19:43 PM
I'm with you, Chelc.

Never seen it.

But I still can recognize some quotes occasionally.

"I fart in your general direction," is one I believe.

So, while you guys quote MP, are there any Weird Al fans out there?

"Way back when I was a little bitty boy living in a box under the stairs in the corner of the basement half a block down the street from Jerry's Bait shop
You know the place
well anyway, back then life was going swell and everything was just peachy..."

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 02:22:14 PM
  :soapbox: Alright you guys, this isn't a movie you just watch when you get the chance. This is one you make time for. I'm taking it with me to the hospital. Seriously, it's in my suitcase.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:22:54 PM
I burst my pimples at you and call your door-opening request a silly thing!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:24:10 PM
 :cover:
Eek!
Sorry.
I just recovered from the death threats of Francis...don't hurt me now!
I don't have a car...I can't go rent it at the moment
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 17, 2007, 02:24:44 PM
RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY!!!
[/color]
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:24:49 PM
  :soapbox: Alright you guys, this isn't a movie you just watch when you get the chance. This is one you make time for. I'm taking it with me to the hospital. Seriously, it's in my suitcase.

You are lucky that you live so far away.  I can only stalk you over the forum. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 02:25:02 PM
I'll protect you, Chelc, and all Monty Python virgins alike!

This is getting serious.

:draw:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:25:36 PM
What if we built this large wooden badger...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 02:26:15 PM
Whew!  Just outta' breath!  Gonna have to hire another bartender to keep up with all the wonderful riff-raff in here!

Loth: Billings:  Like the one MT city I didn't visit.  Camped a lot in Butte while researching a story happening in the ghost town of Southern Cross (near Anaconda)... Swung down to Yellowstone, up to Bozeman for a bit... visited a college friend just east of Missoula... Hit Helena so I could say I hit Helena (poor girl)... played around like a rock star at a campground in Polson... then finally was fully kidnapped for three days by a lovely Kalispell lass who (sigh).... when she said we should stay in touch?

 :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies: :lies:

(pours self a drink, hangs up HELP WANTED sign in tavern window)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 17, 2007, 02:28:58 PM
Yep, that sounds like a Montana vacation!!  I love it here.  There are a lot of beautiful places in this country, but this is definitely one of the nicest.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:29:47 PM
I think it's illegal for me to work here, sorry Aud (damn...I can't call you Francis anymore  :'( :'( :'( :'()
But I'll have pepsi please  ;D And keep 'em coming.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 02:32:45 PM
I'll take a Shirly Temple/Kiddie Cocktail.

Purlease!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 02:35:17 PM
You two are such role models for the teen set.  Extra sugar in the drinks for the Shirley Temple Table.

 :up: to Montana from me, too.  A New Hampshire native who gets it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:39:18 PM
Actually, gimme a non alcoholic pina colado please. With excess cherries. YUM!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 17, 2007, 02:46:46 PM
Oy, this is the let-down of living in the last time zone. I get to all the interesting stuff late.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 02:47:24 PM
lol.

Not too much sugar in mine. My dad's a dentist.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 02:50:54 PM
Aw, more Daniel. Be glad you missed it though...I feared my life.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 03:02:16 PM
Aw, poor Daniel. Be glad you missed it though...I feared my life.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 03:03:21 PM
^^^ had to fix the typo there..but pat, why when you edit something, does it turn into a NEW post and not just fix it up on the old one?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 04:09:38 PM
Whoa.  Empty tavern.  Fear I may have turned a buncha' stumbling loonies loose in the world armed with nothing but sharp wits & the occasional *hiccup*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
Well, I'm back  :wink:
Bet you're sooo happy.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 04:55:29 PM
Hmmmph.  I was actually getting some work done here in the off-hours (while admittedly refreshing the page every few minutes - this habit needs to stop, I think).  But I suppose I can serve up another one of my QT famous chem-free Pina Coladas.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 04:56:36 PM
Ahhh refreshing. But that's okay. I'm off again. Adois!  :wave:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 17, 2007, 08:00:49 PM
Looks like I have the tavern to myself.  Bartender, a frosty mug of your best, and have one for yourself, too.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 17, 2007, 08:03:29 PM
Ahh, I see some ladies have arrived.  Can I buy you a drink honey?  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 17, 2007, 08:10:43 PM
Hello?  Ladies?  Anyone?   :naughty:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 17, 2007, 08:14:36 PM
You rang, sugah? You can buy me one. Poor Pat's ready to chat and everyone's gone frolicking. How was your no good terrible week. Are you home in MT yet?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:03:22 PM
I think Pat came in & took mighty big advantage of the self-serve policy when the bartender is outta the pub. 

Yup, had himself such a time that he apparently started flirting with imaginary women!  I applaud the imagination!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:04:28 PM
 :rof3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:16:06 PM
Funny how almost everyone is logged on, but nobody's talking...maybe the tavern's got you all drunk.  :duet:
We need a karoke bar!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:19:27 PM
We need a karoke bar!

(snaps fingers, karaoke machine magically appears, barkeep hands Chelc the microphone and another chem-free P.C.)

OK, chickadee - you're up!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:20:44 PM
Hmmm....*flips through songs*
AHA!
I can show you the world....
(I'll give 5 karma to whoever knows the next line without looking it up!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:24:17 PM
I'm out.  Cheated.  Never would've guessed.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:28:55 PM
Are you kidding me? Where's your disney song spirit?

...shining, shimmering, splendid
Tell me princess, now when did you last let your heart decide?
I can open your eyes
Take you wonder by wonder
Over, sideways, and under, on a magic carpet ride...

now you gotta know the next line...(hint: it's the name of the song!  :wink:)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:34:51 PM
What ARE all of you guys doing?!

About 5 people are logged on the forums yet I'm the only posting stuff?
Guess I get to talk to myself...
And belt out the next line of the song  ;D
A WHOLE NEW WORLD!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:41:29 PM
My Disney spirit sorta went into retirement around the time of "Under The Sea."

Maybe everone logged on is reading all of the useful information about writing?

GROUP> :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 17, 2007, 09:42:58 PM
Wow! What a concept...never thought it possible!
But now I'm being kicked off by the mom, so you're all alone now Aud (I was soooo tempted to call you Francis...I miss the old days  :()
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:46:44 PM
(I was soooo tempted to call you Francis...I miss the old days  :()

What, you mean yesterday??

Well, this'll work.  I'm a karaoke GOD when no one else is listening!

Hmmm... Older Springsteen, or Hit Me Baby One More Time?   Hmm...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 17, 2007, 09:53:00 PM
**Sings

War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing -

...wait. That's not old Springsteen, is it?

Anywho, I'm a Disney guru.

My Disney stock will hit the roof tomorrow. High School Musical 2 premiered tonight.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 09:57:32 PM
**Sings
War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing -

...wait. That's not old Springsteen, is it?

Oh HELL yeah!  Old in the sense that it was Springsteen before you were born.  We'll let it slide that he actually was covering a late 60's protest song.  And I see it's been a long time sense you've been karma-lized, soo...

<click> for joining me in a Springsteen tune.

Unfortunately, you'll have to wait 'ti Monday for the Disney stock hike... what with markets closed on the weekend. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 17, 2007, 11:32:28 PM
An off-topic opened in & ported from: "Re: Book options. Need Suggestions"

I believe the first step is admitting there is a problem.  So much time spent here on the boards instead of lost in the lines of the WIP.  Yet how could I deny myself such spectacular banter?  Why would I dare write for no one when I could write here & feel so quickly connected?

I see it all so clearly now.

The first step is admission.

So here goes...

"Hello.  My name is Audal, and I am a karma-holic."
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 17, 2007, 11:54:35 PM
I'm getting my manuscript back from my book doctor in a few days. I wonder if I'll be on QT instead of editing like I should. So far, the last few days have been just reading and posting on QT. And then some more reading (I'm stuffing in as many books as I can before school hits).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 18, 2007, 06:29:49 AM
Oh HELL yeah!  Old in the sense that it was Springsteen before you were born. 

(Snip)

<click> for joining me in a Springsteen tune.

Unfortunately, you'll have to wait 'ti Monday for the Disney stock hike... what with markets closed on the weekend. 

 :rof2:

Didn't think one of us teens would even know Springsteen, did ya? Did ya? ;)

Ooo thanks! Karma points for karma-ing me!

And, aw man, I forgot what day it was. No stock surge for a while. :(

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 08:42:38 AM
Just stopping by. Hey, Audal, I know what you mean. I haven't exactly been sitting at the computer all day (I have been gabbing my head off at the lakeside. This summer community is TOO friendly for my health. I have not been able to be the hermit I usually am in summer), but when I should be writing, I've been on here. It definitely has been a sort of avoidance of my WIP tactic. Also my crit buddies have been so quiet.

Oh ,tale of woe.

Pour me one, will ya? I am still in love with my last work! Has this ever happened to any of you? I have such a hard time letting go, and now the wait, while agents trash and reject the poor thing. I had almost switched gears and dived wholeheartedly into my new piece a month ago when those damn partial requests came in and ruined me. Now with BC all revised, I am out of excuses for lingering and must devote myself to the new one. But it's hard. Really hard.

Okay..that's my true confession for the day. slurp.

Anyone else want to take a turn?

(I like the banter, but I keep shifting it back to writing. Notice?)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 18, 2007, 10:09:24 AM
Hey, I'm finally back home.  Now to catch up on about 1,000,000 things (and all but 12 of those are on this forum)  But first I'd like to buy a round for the house.

My flight didn't get in until about 12:30 last night, and Loth was nice enough to pick me up at the airport.  So lots of karma for Loth.  We then drove to the spot where, earlier that day, my idiot ex-wife drove her car through some guys house.  (it must have jumped out in front of her, is all we can figure.)  Mostly she went through his garage, where he just happened to have a 60s-something GTO which he just finished rebuilding and licensed only the day before.  She totaled it.  What really pissed me off was that my son was in the car with her, but he's fine.  So Loth and I drove to the spot and just can't figure out how she did it.  It wasn't hard to find, it's the house with all the plywood covering the big hole.  There must have been some extra stimulus involved.

So, kids, learn from this.  Do not drive if you are a moron.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 18, 2007, 10:09:49 AM
So who is worse, the moron or the guy who married her?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 10:19:46 AM
Aww..Patrick.

At least she didn't drive it into your house.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
I am still in love with my last work! Has this ever happened to any of you? I have such a hard time letting go,

Most definitely early on in my writing endeavors (the screenwriting misadventures).  But little by little, I learned how to detach, and luckily this carried over to my entry into novels.  At not quite 6 months past the completed draft & first query, I've pretty much put the first novel to bed. 

I think what any writer needs is a catalyst to get 'em to that point.  For me, it was surprising email exchange with the top agent on my original list.  The agent professed to be torn about the book - liked the style but felt it wasn't focused.  Though I didn't land representation, the casual tone established in the emails allowed me to discuss the project at greater length & in my non-business voice than any of my other agency interactions.  And by the end of the dialogue, I had garnered the agent's interest in the next project, which was in its fledgling stages at the time.

24 hours - if not 24 minutes - after the last emails were traded, I'd fully shifted gears to the new project.  The WIP then became the catalyst, and the fact that I'd impressed the agent amplified the project's importance.

The catch is, I think I got lucky.  Would the WIP be as vivid without the exchange?  I still had some 40-50 agents I could've queried, but I decided then and there that I could (a.) write a better novel, and (b.) this was still the agent I wanted.  An urgency was created that made the first novel obsolete.

There are ways to help writers create an urgency that isn't there.  I have come to the conclusion that if I am still unpublished, I can easily plagiarize myself without the threat of me taking me to court.  Since my first novel wasn't a flop, and since my second novel is eager to explore several similar themes, I have lately been studying the manuscript in search of the best patches of prose.  All of these will be fair game for a fit into the second novel.  To use a sports analogy, a good player can still be a good player if traded to the right team, no?  Anyway... point is... the fact I'm writing a distant cousin of my first novel has made putting it to sleep all the easier.  It doesn't feel at all like a failed effort.

If you can will yourself to believe that all previous efforts are experiments & not failures, the next piece will ideally reflect that.

(I like the banter, but I keep shifting it back to writing. Notice?)

Mmm-hmm.  So how'd I do?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 10:30:02 AM
Amazing. I pretty much did this with my first. But this is my second, and I felt it deeply.I gave up on my first, but I won't give up on this one. I just need the space and distance to get into my new one, which is my third. i'm starting to feel it.

And hey, thanks, bartender. You actually talked about writing!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 10:36:31 AM
Thanks.  Like I've said - I have my moments.

No rule that says your third won't reach an even greater depth of feeling for you.  Another way of looking at it... Romantic relationships.  Quite often, you never fully feel like you've gotten over a break-up until you're actively seeing someone else.  It's natural.  And isn't it strange how when in the middle of a relationship, a person can feel so sure that this one's THE one... only to maybe months later think themselves an idiot for once thinking as such.

We move forward 'til we find the right fit. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 10:55:24 AM
I tend to look at my writing more like children. You raise them, put your everything into them, but at some point you have to let go. I am doing better with my WIP. I really just need to focus and give it time. I kind of hated one of my mcs but now I know how to make her more likable, so that helps.

Anyway..poor Patrick was nursing a beer all by himself, grumbling in the corner and you didn't say hi!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 11:35:06 AM
Whoops -  :wave: Patrick!  And here >  :toast:  This mug's for you!

By the way, are you also Billings like Loth?  You were probably on a plane when we traded a couple posts on Montana.

JW, that's the best way to look at the work you've finished.  Essentiel we get our heads around the fact that we are always works-in-progress.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 11:35:54 AM
(I was soooo tempted to call you Francis...I miss the old days  :()

What, you mean yesterday??
Well now it was TWO days ago!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 11:40:10 AM

So, kids, learn from this.  Do not drive if you are a moron.


I guess that means I can't drive  :'(
Just kidding  ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 11:42:20 AM
BTW audal, do you select the stay logged on forever thing? Because you're never not logged onto QT!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 11:51:43 AM
BTW audal, do you select the stay logged on forever thing? Because you're never not logged onto QT!

Nah... but I do have the logged-on-for-a-week option going.  This week I've been checking often just b/c my current task allows for frolic.  You'll notice later on that I'll be gone.  I have plans today.  Visiting this place I've heard a whole lot about -- this place they call "Outside."

Which reminds me, I'll need someone to be behind the bar tonight.  Any takers?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 11:53:56 AM
Awww you can't leave! You're the comic relief!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 12:00:05 PM
Holy leaping lunatic!  Just read Patrick's idiot-ex-wife story!  All I can say is - do see the humor here - A belated congratulations on your divorce!  It takes a special brand of lulu to plow through a stationary object the size of... well, a garage.

Glad your son is OK.  Can we give the idiot ex her own QT account so we can slather her in smite points?

Topic 2:  Sorry, Chelc.  Gonna have to pass the court jester torch over to you.  Try not to scorch anyone...  :flame:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 12:03:28 PM
I don't think I can match up to your talent though Aud!  :no: Lo's the guy for the job. :yes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 12:04:25 PM
I mean, come on! "Holy leaping lunatic"?
Need I say more?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 12:27:23 PM
I think you can handle it, C. Only Shirley Temples served tonight along with your flametorch brand of humor. You are SO helping me with my mc, you have no idea. Bet you didn't expect that, huh?  She has adopted some of your spunk and intellect. Don't worry, I think she is quite opposite of you, but, she needed some verve.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 12:44:03 PM
You are SO helping me with my mc, you have no idea. Bet you didn't expect that, huh? 

Oh, I so dig that!

Hey C, remember yesterday when your ego was feelin' small and maybe a bit fragile?

Seems to me that the tribute is a pure indication that you are, as the teen set says, all that!

Now then, hop on over and throw JW a karma point for that!  C'mon now - free pina colada comes with the deal?

Bribery.  Gets 'em every time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 18, 2007, 01:49:00 PM
We've been divorced for going on 10 years now (and I wake up every morning and thank the Gods for that)

I think we should have a new policy.  Whenever Audal is not around, it is the responsibility (and privilege) of any regular to jump behind the bar and serve.  We're just that kind of place. So here we go, but be careful, I mix my Shirley Temples kinda strong.  One for you, one for me, one for you, one for me...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 02:33:16 PM
I think we should have a new policy.  Whenever Audal is not around, it is the responsibility (and privilege) of any regular to jump behind the bar and serve.

Yup, brilliant idea!  As you will see within the name of the Tavern itself, I subtly placed the apostrophe to reflect that the Tavern belongs to all of the quillkeepers.  I just picked the lock to let us in. :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 18, 2007, 03:48:51 PM
I think this tavern could just as well be called "The Time-wasters Tavern".


Nudge nudge, wink wink, you know what I mean?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 18, 2007, 03:49:24 PM
First time posting here..

Do I get my free drink?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 04:09:57 PM
First time posting here..
Do I get my free drink?

Absolutely!  Always an honor to serve an award-winning frog.

"Would you like some flies with that shake?"

And you're not wrong about this "wasted" time... But then again, what tavern ever serves as a haven for productivity?  Thought that at least here, the irrelevant is its own relevance.  Just a smale-scale attempt to keep idle wanderings from threads with more on their mind, y'know?  And I'm keen to waste time amongst writers... keeps me sharp even in folly.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 18, 2007, 04:29:04 PM
Flies?

Yummm.   ;)  What a place!  Catering to my every whim.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 05:33:59 PM
I think you can handle it, C. Only Shirley Temples served tonight along with your flametorch brand of humor. You are SO helping me with my mc, you have no idea. Bet you didn't expect that, huh?  She has adopted some of your spunk and intellect. Don't worry, I think she is quite opposite of you, but, she needed some verve.
spunk? intellect? MUA?!
 :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 05:35:45 PM
Hmmm, Audal, i thought you were out for the night. I'm in, for now...but I'm more the barfly type, not the tender. The only drink I know how to make and not too well are cosmos. So here's a pitcher...I'll just leave it out. And there's some punch for the teens.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 05:36:48 PM
You are SO helping me with my mc, you have no idea. Bet you didn't expect that, huh? 

Oh, I so dig that!

Hey C, remember yesterday when your ego was feelin' small and maybe a bit fragile?

Seems to me that the tribute is a pure indication that you are, as the teen set says, all that!

Now then, hop on over and throw JW a karma point for that!  C'mon now - free pina colada comes with the deal?

Bribery.  Gets 'em every time.
JW doesn't need 28 karmas...does she? okay. There ya go.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 05:40:55 PM
Okay, C..no Cosmos for you. My daughter has a question for you, since I have told her about your "sparkling wit" and "intellect" and showed her your picture. You remind her of a kookie friend of hers. Don't get excited, my son has seen nothing and wouldn't care anyway, he's not much interested in the human race. Here's the question: She wants to know if you have ever heard of Gaia Online. She hangs out on there. We have had some very odd conversations about our "virtual lives". Very strange...yack, yack yack about the actual people we know and the virtual people. (don't worry...I am in her face about it. She's the one I have to watch. She does like people).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 05:41:36 PM
Quote
JW doesn't need 28 karmas...does she? okay. There ya go.
and why not?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 05:44:58 PM
Well, cuz Patrick only has how many? 25? You're beating us all!
But I gave you one anyway for your kind words  :wink:
And I've heard of Gaia, but never visited it. Would she like me to or something?  ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 18, 2007, 06:00:07 PM
Hmmm, Audal, i thought you were out for the night.

I'm sort of out.  Night here on the Pacific is still a few hours out.  Spent the day finishing up the pilfering from the first novel & decided to stage a sneak attack on the tavern jist in case there was any Tom Foolery in here.

Tom?  Where are you?

Hmmm.  Loth must've banished him, too.

Moving on... Virtual lives are truly freaky to me.  More freaky than Francis.  I suppose it is thus a wise choice for me to swing by a non-virtual tavern later in my Saturday.  Not that we ain't keepin-it-real here, of course!  But I'm excited to have a college pal who lives in Buffalo in town for the night & I think he'll be interested in the idea of an oceanside pub.  Here we're more like the Great Sea Of Silliness. 

Ah, but we did discuss writing today.  And I did do actual writing today.  I feel deeply fulfilled.

And thirsty.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 06:06:42 PM
Audal, I thought you were gone for the day or something?
I was going to bash you... :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 18, 2007, 06:24:11 PM
Quote
And I've heard of Gaia, but never visited it. Would she like me to or something? 
She's angelcute4life if you do go on there. Hee-hee. Don't worry about it. It's sort of a kiddy thing. There are so-called fifteen year olds on there, but i think they are all lying 11, 12 and 13 year olds.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 18, 2007, 07:16:14 PM
Sheesh. That's it. I've given up trying to keep track here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 18, 2007, 11:46:44 PM
Sheesh. That's it. I've given up trying to keep track here.
ditto!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 12:13:59 PM
Sheesh. That's it. I've given up trying to keep track here.
ditto!

Uh oh.  Customers storming out in huffs.  This is really bad for business.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
Keep track of what?  Your tab?  It's all on the house.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 12:23:58 PM
It's Daniel's Birthday!!!Happy Sweet Sixteen!!!! :p3: :p3: :p3: :p3: :p3: :p2: :p2: :p2: :p2: :p2: :p2: :p2: :p2: :cake: :cake: :cake: :cake: :cake:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 12:26:44 PM
 :toast: <<Root Beer

This is gonna be our first QT birthday, no?

I'm June.  (No, Chelc, you may not call me June).  I showed up a touch after my b'day.  Sigh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 19, 2007, 12:37:35 PM
Aww thanks y'all.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 19, 2007, 02:30:57 PM
:toast: <<Root Beer

This is gonna be our first QT birthday, no?

I'm June.  (No, Chelc, you may not call me June).  I showed up a touch after my b'day.  Sigh.
June is a girl's name dude...and btw, saw the pic, and Aud, you look EXACTLY like I thought you would  :wink:
Well, I'm hanging out in the tavern until my dad arrives...the damned storm delayed his flight. And we were gonna go hiking tomorrow. Stupid rain :(
Oh, and HAPPY SWEET 16 DANIEL!
one more month 'till I'm 17!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 02:51:39 PM
You mean I look exactly like you thought I would once you were informed & finally accepted that I'm not a she?  :wag:

My June warning was just a pre-emptive strike.  Just never know what nickname you'll give me next.

Living in LA, I actually often find myself missing rain storms.  We get a rainy season of sorts in Jan/Feb, but rarely do we get that thunder & lightning electricity in our smoggy skies.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 02:58:38 PM
It's always so quiet around here on the weekends.  The main site dies out on weekends, too.  It also clears out on weekdays around 5pm, which tells me people are using their workplace internet for non-work activities.  But, as long as it's QT, I won't tell.

Crank up the juke box.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 03:05:37 PM
It's always so quiet around here on the weekends. 
Crank up the juke box.

Sunday Bloody Sunday, perhaps?

Yeah, it's a quiet afternoon at the tavern... But looking at the main site, I wanted to comment how crazy it seems to think that we were so recently celebrating the 1,000th QueryT customer... and now you have over 100 more.  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 03:20:37 PM
Yes we had a good week, with an average of 15 new members per day.  I attribute the increase to some ads I bought on the google and yahoo networks (thanks to some money provided by a couple premium subscribers.)

More members mean more data for everybody.  Bartender, a round of data for the house.

The results of the ads were kind of unexpected.  We get many new users from google searches, and none from yahoo searches.  But the yahoo ads have brought in 4 times as many users than the google ads.  So, next time I won't bother with the google ads.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 19, 2007, 03:33:06 PM
You mean I look exactly like you thought I would once you were informed & finally accepted that I'm not a she?  :wag:

My June warning was just a pre-emptive strike.  Just never know what nickname you'll give me next.

Living in LA, I actually often find myself missing rain storms.  We get a rainy season of sorts in Jan/Feb, but rarely do we get that thunder & lightning electricity in our smoggy skies.
I bet you wouldn't miss the rain if the power to everything in the house went out a couple times a week and the only place to get water from was the melting ice in the freezer.  :nope:
I am so bored right now...dad's flight delayed AGAIN.... :rant:
And I'm tired too...bartender, I would like a mint mocha latte please?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 03:39:37 PM
As luck would have it, mint mocha lattes are a house specialty.

(snaps fingers, :java: appears)

Hope you don't mind, but I added a splash of sympathy b/c of the power outages & delayed papa. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 19, 2007, 03:43:58 PM
Gracias!
 :java:
I think I'm going to go get some hot cocoa too...it's only 55 degrees out here! Early winter!
And I've discovered that I'd rather chew my arm off then drive in the rain at night ever again...that was not fun >:(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 19, 2007, 04:04:55 PM
My goodness. You're gone a day and a half, and look what happens!

This weekend, I've driven 11 hours on the interstate straight.

I need a virgin margarita.

And, anywho, we need some music. Loud, please. How about that suits my mood?

**clears throat**

All aboard!

Crazy, but thats how it goes!
Millions of people living as foes!
Maybe its not to late to learn how to love
And forget how to hate!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 04:11:21 PM
Better put on her song. those guns scare me.
We are going to see Rush Hour 3 very shortly..Anyone see it yet?
And it's freezing here, too. No lake today. Just lots of sibling interventions.

No wonder I've had a relaxing summer until now. Neither of my kids were here at the same time. It is already week one of "togetherness" and it's old already. Thank goodness my parents are taking them a few days each until right before Labor Day. uhhhh. *pulls hair*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 19, 2007, 04:18:53 PM
lol.

**headbangs to Ozzy**

Rush Hour 3 is my favorite movie. EVER. And I watched the prequels after seeing it.

It's pretty humid over here. Ugh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 04:21:08 PM
You do mean the new one, right? Okay..I'll let you know. Not really my kind of movie, but the kids want to see it and my daughter won't sit in the theater alone with her big bad brother.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 19, 2007, 04:22:46 PM
Yep. The new one.

I'm more of a shoot-em-up person. But this was hilarious.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 04:34:06 PM
All aboard!

Crazy, but thats how it goes!


What's impossibly crazy to me is that this very song has been granted the honor of getting a plug in my WIP.  I recently had an email discussion with several music savvy friends.  I wanted to find a guitar riff that was (a.) completely iconic & dripping in guitar talent, (b.) instantly recognizable, and (c.) hilarious if it were to be played by an unassuming librarian-ish woman who just happened to pick up a guitar.

Crazy Train won out.  Eye Of The Tiger got some schmaltz votes.

Melanie, if you're a music dowloader (I'm not, so I'm not even sure it's accessible), you should seek out a Crazy Train cover by a Canadian songbird named Emm Gryner.  It appears on her album "Girl Versions," and is this stripped-down haunting piano ballad.  Truly an impressive translation.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 05:06:15 PM
Eye of the Tiger?  No, I can't see that having the same effect as Crazy Train.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 19, 2007, 05:11:29 PM
All aboard!

Crazy, but thats how it goes!


Crazy Train won out.  Eye Of The Tiger got some schmaltz votes.

EYE OF THE TIGER!!!!
Ahhh the memories...
(we play that for pep band at football games...gets people a bit crazy...er, correction, gets my friends and I a bit crazy :woo:)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 05:40:23 PM
How are our teens so quick to pounce upon 80's tunes?

Oh yeah - that's right - they are far beyond their years.  My Lord.

Quick note to Chelc re: your Xcerpt post... Have a spectacular visit with dad!  Dodge the raindrops and hike like it's a contest!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 19, 2007, 08:56:32 PM
I would've say either Crazy Train or Highway To Hell. :)

That cover sounds cool - I'll check it out at a completely legal downloading site.  ;)

We play Eye of the Tiger for pep band, too, but I like 'The Horse', 'Final Countdown', 'Louie Louie', and 'Wipeout' a lot better (much more musical arrangements). Only our pep band is for basketball. Marching band is for football.  :cheer:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 09:13:09 PM
I would've say either Crazy Train or Highway To Hell. :)

Highway To Hell got a vote.  So did Thunderstruck.  AC/DC was indeed in the house during the election.  Others in the fray included lots of Van halen, plenty of Led Zeppelin, the usual rock gods.  Then in an inspired effort to make my character a virtuoso, I came up with the nifty idea I described to my posse as follows:   

ultimately she'll end up with this mind-scramble of a medley that seamlessly fuses Tchaikovsky's Fifth, Dvorak's Ninth and The Doors "Roadhouse Blues" (all are in E Minor - I think it can be done!)

Anyway... Emm Gryner... Yeah, do check her out.  She's fully capable of riveting me with much of her stuff.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 09:32:02 PM
Arggggh...smite me if you want—I know this is sacred ground here, but I HATE 80s music. Hate, hate, hate...HATE. Let me see if I can think of one good thing about the 80s. The Clash? Gold lame..yes..bleh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 19, 2007, 09:34:04 PM
The Tavern seems so quiet these days!  Bartender!!  A drink!  Let's celebrate the rejection of my manuscript from yet another agent! :duet:  Oh, yeah.  Let's all remember disco as the best music of the ages.   ;D  Every decade is full of its good and bad.  I liked the 70's and the 80's.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 09:39:33 PM
 :wine: This is for you, Lo. Sorry!!! Disco was the 70s!!!! Punk was the 70s!!!

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around..come on..who knows this?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 09:40:32 PM
Before we talk tunes and  :duet:, a triple margarita (or as I've taken to calling it: a Marga-liter) for Lotheus & his most excellent spirit toward a rejection letter!

I certainly don't think the 80s were the best era for music at all... but I do think it was the most wayward & hilarious!  There was Casey Kasem & America's top 40, which inexplicably found ways to put new wave & hair metal all in the same hour!  It was just brilliant!  Joan Jett: I love Rock n' Roll... Oh but wait - here's Howard Jones with the ballad No One Is To Blame!  Oooh, and who's this Debbie Gibson?  Let's then play some Bon Jovi!

I just loved the incongruity.  DJs back then must've had a helluva time getting into the flow of mix-tape mode!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 19, 2007, 09:44:16 PM
Hah!  Marga-liter.  I'll take two!  Oh, and put some Little River Band on the jukebox!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 09:46:27 PM
Don't forget Meatloaf..(wait, I liked Meatloaf!). And my all time favorite song, My Sharona. (who sang that?)  And of course Madonna's rise to fame! What a great decade.

The best thing about the 80s was Twin Peaks and Seinfeld. Oh..and the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 09:50:57 PM
"My Sharona" was sung by The Knack.

Your song lyric is Sheryl Crow.

On the jukebox, Little River Band's "Take It Easy On Me."  Seemed fitting.  "Night Owls" also would've fit.

Twin Peaks was excellent.

Northern Exposure was the best show ever.

Friday Night Lights is today's best show.

More drinks, anyone?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
The fall of the Berlin Wall?  That's way to serious for this conversation.  You're not drunk enough.  Bartender, bring this woman another drink.

No one is driving tonight, right?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 10:03:08 PM
Quote
your song lyric is Sheryl Crow.

*buzz*  wrong...here's more
this ain't no fooling around.
This ain't the Mud Club, or CBGBs
I ain't got time for that now...


I liked Northern Exposure, too.
What is Friday Night Lights?
My FAVORITE show these days is Heroes. I am madly in love with Milo Vertimiglia (because he is the embodiment of my MC from Freaks/BrokenCircle) and I love weird Sci-fi superhero stuff. Love Hiro, too. Can't wait till fall when it comes back on. My next fave show is House, and I'm also madly in love with the dear doctor.
As for anything else..i wouldn't know. There's absolutely nothing else on worth watching.

How 'bout an apple martini..I could go for one, two, or four of those. :wine:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 10:04:10 PM
No one is driving tonight, right?

You mean apart from all of us driving one another batty?

Nope.

I may just have to crank up the Tequila hose.  I didn't wanna take it out of the arsenal, but evidently medication is necessary.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 10:05:16 PM
The only person driving here are my kids driving me crazy. Yes..make mine a double. (double what? I have no idea what I'm talking about.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 10:08:50 PM
Heard of a van that is loaded with weapons
packed up and ready to go
Heard of some gravesites, out by the highway
a place where nobody knows
The sound of gunfire, off in the distance
I'm getting used to it now
Lived in a brownstone, lived in the ghetto
I've lived all over this town

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
this ain't no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey
I ain't got time for that now

Transmit the message, to the receiver
hope for an answer some day
I got three passports, couple of visas
don't even know my real name
High on a hillside, trucks are loading
everything's ready to roll
I sleep in the daytime, I work in the nightime
I might not ever get home


Well? Name that song!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 10:10:43 PM
Thought for sure Sheryl Crow had a similar opening lyric in "All I wanna Do."

A double what, you ask?

Aren't you drinking apple marmartinitini's this evening?

Friday Night Lights is soon to enter its second season... It's based on the movie, which was based on the book.  Loosely, it's about a small community in Texas & how vital high school football is to its fabric.  The show, however, is NOT about football - people don't watch b/c they don't get that.  It's about people.  It's brilliant for teens & adults alike.  The most real show I've seen in years.

Never fully got into Heroes.  Not bad, just not engrossing to me.
Definitely get a kick out of "House."

Oh!  Sleep in daytime, work nightime, etc etc... talking heads?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 10:14:53 PM
Heard about Houston? Heard about Detroit?
Heard about Pittsburgh, PA?
You oughta know not to stand by the window
somebody might see you up there
I got some groceries, some peanut butter
to last a couple of days
But I ain't got no speakers
ain't got no headphones
ain't got no records to play


*ding* Yes! Talking Heads, Life during Wartime, my college anthem.

What channel is that on. I don't get HBO, so I miss most of the good stuff. Never watched the Sopranos.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 19, 2007, 10:27:09 PM
Love Talking Heads.  David Byrne is a genius.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 19, 2007, 10:30:14 PM
 :clap: Gotta agree with that!!!

I can never get sick of them..ever.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 10:34:12 PM
OK, Party People... gonna step away from the bar and lounge for a while.  Try not to break more than half of the glasses, and please, no structural fires.  Appearances must be upheld.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 19, 2007, 10:40:42 PM
I've had enough for the night, too.  Somebody call me  cab.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 19, 2007, 11:33:47 PM
Hey Cab - where you going?  Can't hold on 'til Last Call?

 :faint:

Damn marga-liters.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 20, 2007, 06:45:15 AM
That's why I clear out early  ;)

I love 80's music.

And if you want something worse,

S Club, gonna show you how! There ain't no party like an S Club Party!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 07:43:26 AM
Hey Cab

Good to see somebody picked up on that.  Should have known it'd be audal.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 07:56:53 AM
You lost me on that one. Sometimes I feel like a pop culture illiterate on here. :emb2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 10:52:25 AM
Of course I picked up on that, Cab/Patrick... You fully lobbed it up there for me!

I actually know who the S Club 7 is b/c they did some filming in my neighborhood during what I guess was their final season?  Yup, culture pops loudly in LA.

Quick note about the X-Files thread... Figure it's OK to talk about the thread elsewhere, just as long as I'm not talkin' about the words therein.  Anyway... seems like the thread is gonna do its thing.  I already feel a sense of community pressure to get on in there with new work -- Three of the Team are eagerly awaiting my feedback!  Well, not my feedback exclusively, but feedback in general.  And I'm powerless with out the ticket of an excerpt.  Hmmmph.  Guess I'll try to get that taken care of sometime today.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 10:56:36 AM
So how should we deal with those who post illegally in the X files?  Smite?  Delete their post?  Deny them drinks in the tavern?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
Question: we really have to post an excerpt even to say, thanks or comment? I did...BTW. What about you Patrick. Are you exempt from those rules? I see the founder of the thread is abiding them.

So maybe illegal posts to that thread can be removed by Patrick. You can start with your own! ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 20, 2007, 11:04:29 AM
I would say Yes.

You need to post to even say "good job"  That would encourage you to actually write than just comment on the board.

And I would also say that Patrick is exempt.  He has said he isn't writing anymore.  He has given it up.  He has done this website to help all of us. So he wouldn't have anything to post.

Maybe he needs to put an exclaimer of "I did real work for X number of hours"   So he had to be a good boy before he can post.


Besides...he is forum god.   :bow:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 20, 2007, 11:07:52 AM
And I would say a good smite (starting now not with past offenses) would be quite motivational.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 11:09:49 AM
I know...I just can't resist ribbing Patrick. Don't ask me why.

Good idea..but can I get one free pass since I was just being dumb and didn't fully read the directions? I fixed it. I have no porblem posting excerpts...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 11:09:49 AM
I don't think there's an appropriate "penalty" for the X-Files... Though if there is widespread abuse of the rules, I will personally & hand over a wide array of verbal bullets to Deputy Lane and turn her loose on the culprit.

I'm sure no one wants that.

Eventually, Patrick, I'd suggest maybe deleting posts that do not abide by the laws of the thread.  That's all.  No smites.

And yes, JW, you have to have an excerpt.  Miss Java is dead-on here.  If you want to comment on a friend's excerpt, this should properly motivate you to earn your way into the comment.  Understandably, some of us may go days without showing up in the thread.  It will not be as busy as other threads... but it will definitely serve its more productive purpose over time... just you wait!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Got it. O *wise* one..i will abide. I already have...go see.

Ahhh. I have to go be responsible now and get off this computer. I'll need a good stiff drink later.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 20, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
I don't think there's an appropriate "penalty" for the X-Files... Though if there is widespread abuse of the rules, I will personally & hand over a wide array of verbal bullets to Deputy Lane and turn her loose on the culprit.

I'm sure no one wants that.

Eventually, Patrick, I'd suggest maybe deleting posts that do not abide by the laws of the thread.  That's all.  No smites.

And yes, JW, you have to have an excerpt.  Miss Java is dead-on here.  If you want to comment on a friend's excerpt, this should properly motivate you to earn your way into the comment.  Understandably, some of us may go days without showing up in the thread.  It will not be as busy as other threads... but it will definitely serve its more productive purpose over time... just you wait!

All right all right...  No smiting.    :rant:    ;)



I think the thread is a great idea by the way.  It's so easy to waste time on here, we need a push sometimes and I think this is a good motivational tool.   If people don't like it, then they can find another thread. (Didn't mean that directed at anyone in particular...smooch smooch JW)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 11:15:29 AM
First of all, does this forum seem really sloooooww today, or is it just on my end?

If I interpret Audal's rules correctly, then yes you must contribute before any post, even if it is just to comment on someone else's work.  That is the key to getting people to write.

I will also obey the rules, but instead of contributing writing I'll just let you know what I've done with QT for the day.  How's that?

Though we may need an exception to the rule, if you break the rule then other users can flame you in the thread without having to earn their posts.

But I think audal has the right to decide the punishment for breaking the post rule.  It was his idea.

Judge audal, what say you?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 11:16:46 AM
I see the judge has already spoken.  So let it be written...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 11:18:45 AM
Fine..and I think A-Wise (my new name for Audal) should be able to post as well to moderate. I'm good with it. As I said...no shortage of stuff to post.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 11:23:12 AM
Flaming would be OK.  But you can only turn on the blowtorch when you have an excerpt, of course!

Fully ignoring rule-breaking posters would also send a message.

A-Wise will fully abide by his own rules, as the thread was also created with the self-serving intent of forward progress.

I grant Patrick a lifetime hall pass for the thread... With the one suggestion that when you come in with comments, try to take several on at once.  You're very helpful & I bet you'd feel compelled to contribute upon each and every excerpt when they land.  People who discover this thread later may not understand that you're  King QT, and thus think that it's OK to comment at any time.

Make sense?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 11:29:17 AM
Certainly.  We should of course go easy on new comers.  I think when I remove an illegal post, I'll replace it with a message explaining the reason, that should make it clear to readers how it works.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 11:34:43 AM
I know the rest of you are free to spend all day here on the forum, but I have a job and better get to it, so I'm checking out.  Please don't burn down the place while I'm gone.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
I'm only free until Aug 27th...errr..then it's catch as catch can...But I think I'll manage to make my voice heard.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 11:56:18 AM
Shh, I have a few minutes to kill after all, so I'll lurk around for a bit.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 12:16:51 PM
That's gonna be me when classes start. Not at first though. I realized I don't want to show my students the QT logo or they'll look on the site and find me.


Maybe if I change my avatar it'll be less obvious. hmmmm. just thinking out loud. I really better go write. I have one good week left and I thought I'd be done with my first draft by the time summer ended. Not by long shot.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 12:42:59 PM
I know jw and java have excuses (and I'm just a slacker) but audal, shouldn't you be at work?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 12:59:26 PM
I've been "working."  Working on the excerpt for the new creation... which is now on-site.

And I'm furious at me for making me get to the WIP earlier in the day than usual.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 01:31:06 PM
I have some comments for your 'zerpt, but I have to find my own before I post. Word of advice for your writing style, A-wise? Don't try so hard. Simplify a little so that knife-like humor of yours can come through. Good ideas for Dan and me. (is this cheating if I respond here in the bar?)

In the meantime, I'll just leave you hanging!! >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 01:36:52 PM
Yup, it's cheating... so I therefore must decline the opportunity to appreciate your suggestion :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 03:11:17 PM
stinker. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 03:39:11 PM
stinker. ;)

A-ha!  I wondered what smelled in here.  Now I know.  It's me. :(

^^ Ooh, funny jukebox selection...

Taaaaaaake onnnnnnnnn meeeeeeeeeeee.......
Taaaaaaake meeeeeeee onnnnnnnnnn.....
I'llllllllll beeeeeeee gonnnnnnnne...
In a
(piercing high note that'll shatter your moniter - quick people - cover your eyes!!!!!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 04:22:45 PM
Yikes...I'm glad you write better than you sing!  :eek:

Report to the Zerpt files...stat..stat..IZ (or IX if you please)

Incoming Zerpt.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 04:46:27 PM
OK, that is outstanding news, 'cause I am an excellent singer!  It's true.  Dogs outside howl in approval every time I belt out a tune.

Wait - hold on - how did I get 6 sparkly new karma points?  Who loves me?  What's going on here?!

I am puzzled.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 05:01:17 PM
twasn't I.. :inocent: (I don't have the authority).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 05:15:33 PM
Do we have a mystery karma-lizer among us now?  I guess that's better than a smiter.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 20, 2007, 06:25:19 PM
:draw:

Virgin strawberry daquiri purlease.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 06:26:05 PM
Melanie, are you getting hooked on those things?

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 06:37:11 PM
OK, my ex-wife was mentioned in another thread and instead of hijacking that thread I will bring the discussion over here.  Plus, it seams appropriate to discuss her when lots of alcohol is around.

So she drove into a house the other day, remember.  She got a ticket for reckless driving which I figure is a no-brainer.  If you drive up on someone's lawn and crash through their house in the middle of the day, clear weather, not another car in sight, I think it's obvious that you're not gonna get a driving merit badge.  But she is determined to go to court and fight it.  What the  :censored: is she thinking?  It's not like the brakes went out or the steering wheel fell off.  She just wasn't paying attention, and when she finally realized something was wrong (somewhere between the rose bushes and the porch swing) she mistook the brake for the gas.  I'd call that reckless.  In fact, witnesses say that she continued to hold down on the gas and spin her tires a full minute after she collided and the car stopped moving forward.

This may not seem as funny to the rest of you.  I guess you have to know her, and how nothing is ever her fault.  Loth will get a laugh out of it though.  I can't wait to hear her defense.  "But your honor, I'm not reckless, just stupid."

Side note, I'm not bitter.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 06:38:12 PM
It's impossible, I say!  Girl waves those guns 'round the saloon like that, how's a barkeep ever gonna say no to her?

(snaps fingers)

Here ya go, little lady... Virgin strawberry daquiri with a swizzle stick carved from last night's crescent moon.  Gives it extra kick.

Someday Melanie's gonna look at her monitor and think, "Whoa!  When did I start writing historical fiction set in Texas circa 1850?!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 06:48:49 PM
she is determined to go to court and fight it.  What the  :censored: is she thinking? 

Oh, yeah - I most definitely find the humor in this... so long as you do, Pat!

This would be the first time I'd ever suggest to someone that they should volunteer for jury duty.

Maybe you'll consider coming out of retirement & pen "Tales of a Deliriously Grateful Ex-Husband!"  Or at the very least, for cathartic value, throw up its query letter in the Worst Queries thread!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 06:52:54 PM
*Pulls up chair, passes shot to P. Watches him chug it down and shakes head sympathetically. says:*

Well, Patrick, I think you certainly must have a book in this whole mess, somewhere, at least? I take it this wild fiasco is not an uncharacteristic of the X-woman? Somehow I get the sense you can't really be free of this irritating person. Could she, perhaps be Francis? Does she know about this website? Gosh, i hope not!!! :eek:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 06:54:40 PM
See? A-wise agrees. Exie could be your ticket to the big time!!! Brilliant minds think alike :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 07:01:38 PM
Thanks for the shot.  Got another? 

Francis was too articulate, couldn't have been her. We've been divorced for 9 years.  After I got the kids (about 7 years ago) she became less of a pain, and more of a joke.  Except when I have to travel for work.  I usually have to take my youngest to Loth's house while I'm gone, because my ex charges me too much to watch him (and then doesn't do a very good job of it anyway.)  Loth does it for free.  More karma for Loth.  Where would I be without him.

And you guys are not the first to suggest a book about the ex.  You wouldn't believe some of the stunts she has pulled. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 07:39:22 PM
Just the fact that you have the kids speaks volumes. (sorry, no pun intended).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 20, 2007, 09:05:59 PM
Someday Melanie's gonna look at her monitor and think, "Whoa!  When did I start writing historical fiction set in Texas circa 1850?!"

 :rof2:

Sorry about the ex, Patrick. No doubt she'll be the inspiration to a great book someday. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 09:13:06 PM
Anyway..feel free to bash her here! We'll never tell.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 20, 2007, 09:17:49 PM
If someone tells, we'll go after 'em.

:draw:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 09:18:59 PM
And she will. I don't doubt that.  ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 20, 2007, 09:21:23 PM
Anything to use the guns for you, Patrick!  :wink:

:draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 09:27:12 PM
This girl is hysterical!  :rolf: :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 20, 2007, 09:29:25 PM
 :rof3:

How strange, I was just talking with my mom about how someone drove their car into the house when I was little!

Btw, I'm feeling much better. I had some coffee, went to lunch for my birthday, bought a book (which I shall read once I finish Perfume), and am now wide awake.

Jeez I was cranky. It was just one of those days where everything annoyed me somehow, and I just wanted it to be over so I could wake up the next morning and forget about it. 

And continuing the discussion from the other thread ... I take no offense at being called a little boy, JW. It only offends me when people mean it to, and it's blatantly obvious when that is their intention. And thanks for the karma! I'm a little over-karmalized, so I think I have to distribute some well-deserved karma now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 09:30:36 PM
Melanie, just for you I moved the gun-slinger so it is directly on the posting form.  Since you use it in almost every post I thought you might want it more conveniently placed.  Now I just hope that doesn't make a lot of others use it.  But you'll take care of them if they do, right?

And if I wanted someone shot, how much would that cost me.  No, no, never mind.  That's bad.  What am I thinking?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 09:33:43 PM
Good to have you back Dan.

justwrite, don't read this part.
[But don't let jw off that easy.  You have to at least make her think you were upset.  Come on, let's see some great acting.]

OK, jw, you can start reading again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 20, 2007, 09:35:03 PM
 :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 09:35:24 PM
Hold on - I think I hear an announcement over the Tavern loudspeaker...

"Deputy Lane, please report to The X-cerpt Files thread!
Again, Deputy Lane to X-Files.
Over?"


The time has come, Deputy.  You have fans.  Mosey on over & show 'em whatcha' got!

(p.s. free strawberry concoctions await your return)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 09:37:30 PM
I'm not touching that gunslinger..that's Mel's.  (don't want to lose a finger or anything).

Glad you're feeling better, Dan. You're less a little boy then some grown men I know.

Ahem...speak of the devil—he's (Patrick) out to get me, you know. I think he's jealous because he wants a mommy all to himself!

Men.  *sigh*

It's okay. I'm a professional Mommy (ask my students...I can mother the biggest toughest street kid, None of them scare me!). However I am very cranky with my own kids. take a hike, kids, I'm online...neyah...go watch TV.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 09:40:46 PM
Don't worry Dan, jw didn't read it.  She just wants us to think she did.  But it was too cleverly disguised.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 09:41:59 PM
Ooh, why does Mel have to go to X-Files?  Did someone break the rule?  Is she gonna shoot someone?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 09:45:09 PM
And another thing, dear barflies... Might I suggest we raise a toast to one of the pub regulars, who no doubt is having a fabulous & festive & long overdue visit with her Dad.

Cheers to you, Chelc -  :toast: - we all hope you're havin' yourself a time!

Pat's question... Nope, Deputy Lane has to go to X-Files because I wanna see some of them fightin' words turn into writin' words!  Call it a hunch.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
Yes, a toast to Chelc and her Dad.  I hope they are having a wonderful time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 20, 2007, 09:55:49 PM
Yeah, i was thinking it was it bit dull around here without her!  Hope yer having fun, Chelc-girl!  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 20, 2007, 10:09:53 PM
Well, if no on is gonna get shot then I'm going to sign off.  I think I'll go read.  That's something I haven't done in a very long time.

Last chance, Melanie, any shooting?  No, OK then, good night all.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 20, 2007, 11:03:33 PM
Geez.  Step away to watch TV for a half-hour and the whole place clears out!  I was mighty proud of my latest post in the WL Literary Agency thread started by joanjunkmail & I thought I could steer y'all over there for what I feel is one of my better laughs to date!

Guess all y'all are gonna have to wake up to the crazy tomorrow!

"All y'all."  Sheesh.  Clearly our tavern entrance is a swingin' door.  And I'm sure we don't serve specific drinks, but instead have a wall of bottles and jugs labeled XXX.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 21, 2007, 03:32:07 AM
Hee!  I'm still laughing about the car through the house! :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 09:55:45 AM
 :draw: :draw: :draw:

Darned tennis practice!

(And thanks for the easy access, Patrick ;) )

Hehehe! I'm going over right now. You had me at 'strawberry concoctions'!

 :draw: :draw: :draw:

...I could do this all day...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 10:08:54 AM
A-Ha! 

D-Lane (may I call you that?), I knew you'd rise to the challenge!

Or at least I hoped you would...

otherwise I might've had to challenge you to a duel... and... well, 

Deputy> :draw: :faint: <Barkeep

I might not have enjoyed the outcome...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 10:45:42 AM
:draw:

I wouldn't go TOO hard on you.

I'd hate to have blood on the floor of the Quillkeeper's Tavern ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 12:00:16 PM
My silly Styx story, continued from Agent Quest thread...

In 7th grade, I was a perpetually shy sideliner at the Junior High dances.  Occasionally I might stand up with friends to hop about in mosh pit form with other awkward buds, but mostly... No way.  Repeat: 7th grade.  These gigs were the domain of the 8th grader.

It was the surprise of my 13 year-old life to date, then, when 8th grader Kristin asked me to dance.  Kristin was poissibly the coolest girl in school.  How cool?

If our Jr. High were to have a Vampire Slayer, it would've been Kristin.

And - to add voltage to the already shocking shocker - it appeared to be... *GASP*... a slow song.

Oh dear God shoot me dead now.

Soooo... I'm sure many of you are familiar with the epic Styx song "Come Sail Away."  At the time, I was not.  But there I was, trembling like a hummingbird in the arms of the much cooler and twice as tall Kristin.  First dance - slow dance - cool chick.  A story for the ages, right?

Midway through the song, the tempo suddenly goes from hey-baby-hold-me-closer to a more rollicking let's-flail-like-it's-a-competiton rock-out.  Everyone on the dance floor knew to separate when the temp was amped up.

I did not.

I refused to let go.

My dance, people.  Live with it.

Mind you, at the time I had not yet mastered the art of the Twirl-A-Girl as I have done today  :wink:... And to her immense credit, Kristin was sweet and let me have my don't-you-dare-let-go-of-me moment.  We finished out the song, slow dancing to a heavy beat.

I win.

Styx rules!

Course I got laughed at or with by various (if not all) of the Jr. High because I was shaking like a leaf for a good 10 minutes before falling into a psuedo-flop sweat at the sight of Kristin doing anything.  Took me about 2 weeks before I could even speak to her again.  Ultimately we struck up a good 5 or 6 years of friendship... and I'm sure I still have hometown pals that can help me track her down if I ever wanted to share this story... Which is actually kinda cool, no?

Anyway... that's the bartender's story du jour.  Now I must get myself to the WIP.

 :toast: Cheers!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 12:15:24 PM
:draw:

Awesome Come Sail Away story!

I have one too!

According to my history teacher (who, admittedly, is one for tall tales), he once got a call from his best friend. Said best friend was at his kid's (never specified whether it was a son or daughter) wedding. He says he heard Come Sail Away in the background. Live. According to him, his best friend's kid married Dennis DeYoung's kid, and Dennis DeYoung was karaokeing (sp?) his own song at the wedding.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 12:27:54 PM
great story.  god, how i hated 70s rock music!  i wanted to do the lindy hop, or at least the twist!, to music with some energy.  instead, stuck in the white suburban culture ghetto, it was styx, rush, foreigner and - oh, my tic is resurfacing - freebird.  

discovering Monk and Goodman, and all others like them, was a revelation.  sadly, i was an adult by then.

kristin sounds like a really interesting personality - speaking as an ex-8th grade girl!  wonder what she's doing now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 12:28:21 PM
Dennis DeYoung was karaokeing (sp?) his own song at the wedding.

OH SSSSSSSSSS-NAP!  :whip: :whip: :whip:

And you just know that somewhere mid-song, he was eyeing the crowd looking for someone to hold up a lighter!

I'm digging through my mental closet for the anology here.... can only come up with something like a major league all-star (probably an ace pitcher) showing up for the annual parents-vs.-kids little league contest...

And not letting up at all!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 12:30:05 PM
robert zimmerman showing up at his 10th high school reunion....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 12:32:34 PM
:draw:

That was all I had ;)

The major leaguer  did let up at all? That's purty rude. Someone should teach him some respect :draw:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 05:53:24 PM
Did someone say Happy Hour???  :p2: :p1: :duet: :wine: :p2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 05:53:51 PM
so, here's a bar debate topic:  are Foreigner's songs 'music'???
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 05:54:44 PM
hey! how'd that smiley get attached?????
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 05:55:27 PM
again?  this is a weird pub...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 05:57:09 PM
The code for that smiley is three question marks in a row.  So whenever you do 3 q-marks, the system thinks you want the smiley.

And hey, I actually liked Foreigner. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 05:58:14 PM
I lost those brain cells so I don't know. I'm serious. I really blanked that stuff out like a traumatic memory.


As for HipHop...horrible things show up on my laptop downloaded by my son. Just cursing with a beat. If it makes you feel better, my students (I'm a graphic design professor at a community college) are into all kinds of wild things, even REM and Led Zeppelin, along with that Panic in the Disco stuff.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 05:59:06 PM
like them, in an ironic sorta way, maybe? she asks sheepishly.

[i'm just amazed no one has attacked my love of the spice girls!]
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 06:05:35 PM
No I actually like them.  But that doesn't mean you are not allowed your own opinion.  If you can have the Spice Girls, then I can have Foreigner. 

But what about the Andrew Sisters?  I love them.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:06:35 PM
And hey, I actually liked Foreigner. 

I'll go beyond that... I actually saw them in concert!  On my move west in '93... when they were WAY past their prime & playing a gymnasium gig in Rapid City, SD.  We happened to be camping nearby & a campground worker we'd befriended told us we HAD to go.

It was that URGENT we attend!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:08:44 PM
[i'm just amazed no one has attacked my love of the spice girls!]

We started a Spice Girls thread once, but it was swiftly ported to www.are_you_insane.com.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:13:32 PM
:draw:

Awww. I love the Spice Girls, though I have to admit, a little bit goes a long way.

My favs are AC/DC, Journey, Boston, Chicago, Blue Oyster Cult, Rob Zombie (where'd THAT come from?), and Styx. I like Weird Al and The Who, too.

I just can't choose. :shrug:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 06:15:27 PM
See it's things like this that make me have to ask, Are you really really sure you're 15?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:20:15 PM
Yep. I swear. (Insert 'Girl Scout's Honor' Smiley)

It's things like this that make my peers thing I'm a freak. Go figure. :shrug:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:22:09 PM
:draw: Journey

(Sparks up karaoke machine, begins to belt it out)

Just a small-town girl...
Lovin' in a lon-e-ly world...
She took the midnight train goin' annnn-yyyyy-where...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:25:11 PM
:draw:

**Joins in**

Just a city boy born and raised in south Detroit
He took the midnight train going anywhere.
Singer in a smoky room, smell of wine and cheap perfume!


Come on, everybody!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:28:27 PM
 :cool:

A singer in a smoky room...
the smell of  :wine:  and cheap per-fu-hu-hume...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:30:37 PM
Uh oh.  Out of sync.  Karaoke Chaos erupting.

Strangers, waiting, up and down the bouleva-ah-ard
Their shadows searching in the ni-eee-ight
Streetlight people, living just to find emotion
Hiding somewhere in the niiiiiiiiiiight


(excellent guitar solo here)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 06:31:15 PM
Ahhhh, *sigh* the WHO? Jeez, gosh, Mel, when AH was yer age Ah was..Yeah..I was a totally crazed wild rabid Who fan. I finally got to see them for the first time when I was a senior in college in Pittsburgh (erh, ummm 1979, ahem). I even dressed up like a Mod (do you know what a Mod is?). And then the next night in Cinncinati eleven kids got killed in a stampede. My mother called hysterical. I mean, she really couldn't tell the difference between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati..(we New Yorkers, it's all the same to us).

Annd now for my Blue Oyster Cult story— my good friend and neighbor is a bass player and he was a member of a band called the Brain Surgeons that just broke up. One of the members was the former drummer for the Blue Oyster Cult.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 06:33:57 PM
 :happy: :happy:

OMG...why was Mel singing the boy part and A singing the girls? It's early yet (especially in CA) and he's drank his quota.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:36:16 PM
:draw:

I don't even know. :shrug:

Awesome about The Who concert!

(yes, I know what Mod is ;) )

I've been to three 'real' concerts in my life, all with my parents.

1. Don McLean
2. The Beach Boys
3. Chubby Checker (This one was at Epcot, and we just listened to it)

:shrug:

There's not too many bands I like touring right now.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:36:59 PM
Deputy Steve-Perry-Lane has apparently passed out laughing...  :duet:

So I'll keep singin'.  I know you all want me, too.

Working hard to get my fill
Everybody wants a thr-hi-hill
Paying anything to roll the dice
Just onnnnnnne moooooore time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blu-oo-ues
Oh the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on


and...?

(taps Mel's mic.  "Is This Thing On?")
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 06:40:46 PM
And hey, I actually liked Foreigner. 

It was that URGENT we attend!

LMAO!!!  that's the best thing about Foreigner - they are the best pun foundation EVER!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 06:43:15 PM

But what about the Andrew Sisters?  I love them.

oh, thank you bette midler - I don't think I would've found them if it hadn't been for her.
[for the younger set, Bette Midler was a singer in the 70s before she was an actress and she covered an Andrews Sisters song, 'Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B']

oh no, when was the last Bette Midler movie?  it wasn't the 80s, was it?  ugh.

beer me, barkeep - I'm feelin' old
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 06:43:53 PM
Why thank yo, JJM.  We've all been WAITING FOR A GIRL LIKE YOU to join the forum!

(resumes singing)

Don't stop believing
Hold on to that fee-la-ay-ay-ing
Stree-etlight people whoa-oo-WHOAAAAAA
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 06:49:30 PM
I like old movies, I see a lot of the Andrew Sisters there.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 06:51:07 PM
i was about to scream from the tension and the incredibly bad song at the end of the sopranos finale...and, then i DID scream.... david chase is all kinds of sadist.

now, if anyone wants to sing a pete townsend lyric, i'm all about that.

oh!oh! or the Clash.......ahhhhhh

they're gonna hafta introduce conscription
they're gonna hafta take away my prescription


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:53:17 PM
:draw:

Sorry, guys. The batteries on my mic ran out. Grrr. And now the song's over!

Okay. So I can sing something else.

I WANNA ROCK AND ROLL ALL NIGHT AND PARTY EVERYDAY!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 06:54:32 PM
now i want a joint and some pimply faced kid to make out with

memory lane is full of poison ivy!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 06:59:52 PM
:draw:
 
I'm allergic to poison ivy - especially cyber poison ivy! My face is going red like this! ->  :emb:

Anyway...how about this?

(In case y'all are wondering, I'm singing these as they come up on my iTunes library)

Ramble on!
And nows the time, the time is now to sing my song.
I'm goin' round the world, I got to find my girl, on my way.
I've been this way ten years to the day, ramble on,
Gotta find the queen of all my dreams.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 07:00:42 PM
Pete Townsend..oh yes...I can sing all of Tommy if you like, off key.

It's a boy, Mrs. Watson, it's a boy.
A son, a son, a SON!


Betcha in real life all of you are a bunch of introverts. But me, I would get up and sing. (badly)..Sorry A-wise, I'm not an authority on Bad Foreigner songs...but I can sort of picture you in the smoky bar, crooning your head off, while we all throw lemon sections at you to make you stop.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 07:03:11 PM
Pete Townsend..oh yes...I can sing all of Tommy if you like, off key.
...but I can sort of picture you in the smoky bar, crooning your head off, while we all throw lemon sections at you to make you stop.

you're underestimating me - i'd throw a bag of lemons at him to make him stop!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 21, 2007, 07:06:54 PM
LOL!

No, actually, as long as I don't know that many people (and it depends on the people), I get up and sing beautifully and participitate (that's an extreme form of participation...never mind...no one's ever heard of Bert...). (LIE ALERT! LIE ALERT!) Okay, so maybe not beautifully, but you can't be in a show choir for four years and get nothing out of it, right?

That's the thing about the net, though. Everyone seems bubbly. Once my mom had me meet a girl on the 'net because we were going to be on the same cruise ship. She was really bubbly, hyper, outgoing, and all that jazz on the 'net. In real life, she was just super quiet, and, frankly, I freaked her out when I was doing the Macarena on deck...

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 21, 2007, 07:15:37 PM
i really enjoy meeting my online buds - usually everyone's sense of humor is the same, but the faces never are what you expect!

just met one of my online friends last friday, as a matter of fact.  we had a great time, as expected, but i never would've guessed she looked like she did - she was smaller and prettier than I would've guessed.  weird, huh?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
Believe me I am way, sillier in person (see photo). I'm actually more reserved online because I don't get as swept up in the mirth. And that's before I have a drink!

Part of my critique group (three of us) arranged to meet a a conference in April. We shared a room for two nights. One lady was a very quiet type and me and the other one (whom I'd already met) never shut up...yak, yak yak. We yaked to all the editors (got them drunk too!), we yaked to each other. We drove the poor woman nuts. And then we kept yaking on the car ride home.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 07:36:24 PM
Yes. I had the chance to meet a member of my crit group who lives in Colombia, SA last October. We had a blast. Truly. We took wacky pix of ourselves and made a sort of photo-blog for the group. But there are still members I have "known" online for over two years and we have yet to meet. Also a few refuse to post their pictures!

I have to say...this is the first open forum I've hung out on so much. I'm not even sure why!! I just swept me in and I CAN"T leave now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 21, 2007, 09:51:57 PM
Just passing through to drop an imaginary quarter in the jukebox.

Obscure song selection:  Worn Me Down by Rachel Yamagata (the cool first version from her EP with the growling & grinding guitar... not the watered down version from the bigger CD)

Gotta get back to work.  Excerpts-a-plenty forthcoming.  Giddy dizzy writing night.  Love those.  Why am I still typing ok bye!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 09:57:10 PM

I have to say...this is the first open forum I've hung out on so much. I'm not even sure why!! I just swept me in and I CAN"T leave now.

Same for me, and I remember Audal saying something similar.  So QT is addictive.  Should I put up a warning label?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 21, 2007, 10:22:12 PM
Yes you should, between my obsessive-compulsive organizing and reorganizing of my query list to THIS FORUM, I'm pretty sure I have written about 75% less than usual. To whom should my lawyer address the subpeona?

Just kidding...if my WIP was that engaging, nothing could drag me away. Apparently I needed to chill out this summer and not dwell, dwell, dwell on getting published. I've been sufficiently distracted and I think that's pretty healthy. But things are slowing down on here, so before I keel over on my keyboard, maybe I will write too!  :bonk:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 21, 2007, 10:34:55 PM
I have the same problem.  I've got to start limiting my time on this forum or I'll never get anything new done on QT.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 22, 2007, 06:16:43 AM
:draw:

Same here.

I haven't hardly written anything since I joined QT forums. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 07:38:39 AM
Apparently I needed to chill out this summer and not dwell, dwell, dwell on getting published. I've been sufficiently distracted and I think that's pretty healthy.

funny how being around a bunch of people who have one thing in frightening thing in common (getting published) can make the fright turn into fun... communities are cool, and this one is really neat.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 10:29:10 AM
coz we are all... :crazy:
 :) in a good way.

Let's us appear like normal folks in our day to day life.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 11:18:35 AM
coz we are all... :crazy:

 :agree: :lies: :agree: :lies:

Well then.  Looks like I'm torn.

So... what did I miss here last night?

Melanie wailing LedZep:  :clap:  Robert Plant is I'm sure writing you a fan letter

The crowd throwing lemons at me:  :y:  I.  Love.  Lemons.

And JW - I'm thrilled to have sorta fooled you again (just like the ol' days)... Definitely not an introvert.  I may be more of a speak-when-spoken-to type, but once I'm comfortable with someone and I get started, I'm all like  :blah: :blah: and :blah:!  I have also hit the Karaoke mic on several occasions, which yeah, may have been fueled by a couple cocktails, but still...

Once in Colorado I had groupies who ran on stage and joined me for Maragaritaville.  Though I tell people their decision was simply because of me, between us, I bet the song itself had a lot to do with it.

And lastly... Yeah, this is my first very active forum.  I've made a couple posts in places from time to time... But I'm certainly drawn to the spirit here.  I've even tried to be helpful on occasion, too.  But mostly I'm a fan of mischief on the fringes of writing.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 11:31:02 AM
Nah..A-wise...I'm leaving you out of the introvert thing. ;D
I think if we were actually in a bar we'd be tripping over each other's words! Cracking up at our own jokes while everyone else rolled their eyes. Hee!

I don't think Chelc or Melanie are either. (introverts, that is).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 22, 2007, 11:38:52 AM
:draw:

Hehehe. You said Margaritaville, and it got me thinking...

I like mine with lettuce and tomato! Heinz 57 and french fried potato! Huge kosher pickle and a cool dry beer...

I'm going to go have Chinese now...

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 11:41:08 AM
:draw:
I like mine with lettuce and tomato! Heinz 57 and french fried potato! Huge kosher pickle and a cool dry beer...

Well good God almighty - which way do I steer?!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 22, 2007, 11:46:47 AM
Woah...I have about 10 pages to read in this thread alone.  :duh:
How many do you think it'll get to by friday? My guess is 57 pages...
Oh, and Melanie, you said something earlier about pep band music...louie louie and final countdown? HELLS YEAH!! (we play those too). What instrument do you play? I'm a flutey  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 01:06:25 PM
Hey, Baw-tendah..I need a strong one. Someone's smited me. :'(
Heard any gossip about who might have done it?

Was that you, Patrick, in a little pre-emptive strike?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 22, 2007, 01:27:56 PM
:draw:

Let me at the smiter. Let me at 'em!

I play the french horn, Chelc. Rock on, Louie Louie, and the Final Countdown.

:dance:

And how long it could get...I don't know. As of tomorrow, school starts for me and I won't be around a lot.  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 01:34:27 PM
Hey, Baw-tendah..I need a strong one. Someone's smited me.

i wonder if it wasn't an accidental smiting - those buttons are mighty close together. 

also, perhaps it was a badge of honor - i don't see anyone else with smites (although some of us might have mites)(not pointing fingers, though - take your mouse off that smiter!!).   maybe someone was honoring you - you never know.

regardless, here's a chocolatini - nothing takes the post-smote blues away quicker.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 01:36:50 PM
 :( thanks

Hey..that does sound good..i have to remember that in real life!

BTW..I think you're due for an avatar under your name, JJ
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 01:38:02 PM
are you in danger of being smitten in real life?  do you live in alabama?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 03:36:12 PM
Hey Melanie!  Lookit!
 :band:
We got us a backup band!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 05:09:11 PM
drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.


barkeep - slam one over, y'know.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 05:45:07 PM
 ;D I had to give you karma for that, A-man. (and I've been feeling a little stingy because YOU have more than me and half the posts). But oh, well, I guess you deserve it. Where did those come from? Did you add them or did Patrick?  :huh:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 05:56:11 PM
Okay..it may look like the above karma was a bribe, but I SWEAR, I read the other thread first.

SO..Judge Barfly..should my smit be removed?
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 22, 2007, 06:01:44 PM
:draw:

SA-WEET! BACK UP BAND!



Ahhhhhhhh-ah! Ahhhhhhhhhh-ah! We come from the land of the ice and snow from the midnight sun where the hot springs blow!

 :band:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 22, 2007, 06:02:39 PM
jw, Do you have any witnesses you would like to present in support of your case?  Can anyone testify that you did not deserve the smiting?  We should start picking a jury.  Any volunteers?

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:10:35 PM
Oh, hell.  I knew I'd get caught up if I logged on.  Dammit! 

I torch myself!  :flame:

I know not from where my karma came.  ("karma-karma-karma-karma-karma come leead me onnnn..."  :band:

We now leave the 80's cheese behind and return to Immigrant Song.  I personally am waiting to hear "I shot the sheriff.... but I did not shoot the.... ?"

Judge barfly happily consents to the removal of the smite point from JW's name.  One wonders, though, will any smites ever be acceptable?  Clearly JW did nothing to deserve it & I'm deeply mystified.  Methinks smiters need to fill out a form to explain said smite.

JJM (aka JoanJettMail?)... sorry you were left to your lonesome here at the tavern, but it appears you've fit right on into the self-serve policy.  We will scrape you out of your slumber in the corner later this evening!

So - who loves my new signature line?!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:17:11 PM
Now, every morning, just before breakfast,
I don't want no coffee or tea.
Just me and my good buddy Weiser.
That's all I ever need.


uuhhhh huh?  uh, ahem, yeah...uh, no no smiting. 
actually, i tried to smite myself, to see if JW was attempting an attention grab, ala Stephen King (I never bought that, 'I was hit by a car' bit), but it can't be done. 

although trying it brought to mind the divinyls, and i lost some more time, there...

i say.. uh, what was the question?

Cause I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
I drink alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 22, 2007, 06:20:50 PM
Honestly, I'm not sure what to do about the smites.  We can't keep removing them, that would make them pointless.  On the other hand, I'm sure jw did not earn her smite (Right jw?  You didn't secretly piss anyone off did you?)

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 22, 2007, 06:21:50 PM
i tried to smite myself,

Careful, you'll go blind.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 22, 2007, 06:23:55 PM
Oh, and aul, I did notice the new sig line.   :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:24:42 PM
Now, the other night I lay sleeping,
And I woke from a terrible dream.
So I called up my pal, Jack Daniels,
And his partner Jimmy Beam.


I'm thinking, hic!, that maybe I wanna be smote.  too.  I wanna stand, oops!, sit, uuugh, lay down on this nice floor in solidarity with JW, my first karmasmacker....

And we drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
We drank alone, yeah, with nobody else.
Yeah, you know when I drink alone, I prefer to be by myself.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:29:20 PM
Karma/Smite Proposals:

1. Give a smiter the power to drop us a notch from a karma count instead.
2. Eliminate 'em altogether.

They stand out so much... and without knowing their origin, we're all gonna be like huh?  What?  Have I been a bad dog?  :shrug:

Which reminds me... Joan, you missed the restroom.  Again.

Daytime drinkers.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:32:45 PM
in all seriousness, which means i should probably start a new topic elsewhere, i don't understand karma and smites.  it really does seem sorta like high school again (shudder).  i was only kinda kidding about getting someone to smite me so JW doesn't feel bad - I would feel horrible if i got an anonymous 'i don't like you' hit.

i vote to take 'em all away, just because we're all adults (even the teens), here, and why bother with that sorta stuff?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 22, 2007, 06:39:20 PM
OK, how's that?  I removed the negative read out.  Now a smite reduces karma by 1.  The only other option is to remove karma completely. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:40:26 PM
and, audal, IT WASN'T ME..

It wasn't me, baby, no it wasn't me, baby.
It must have been some other body, uh uh, baby, it wasn't me




I love George
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:41:44 PM
OK, how's that?  I removed the negative read out.  Now a smite reduces karma by 1.  The only other option is to remove karma completely. 

sounds good to me...

can we (and by we, I mean I) still sing the blues, though?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:42:38 PM
Wait... Joan... Did you catch my disguised Divinyls reference just before, or was that just an arbitrary comment?

My guess is a big knockout of a coincidence!

Anyway - I'm glad you at least know that the restroom is the floor in the OTHER corner.  Remember, people, appearances must be upheld!

And I think we would have a Tavern uprising - if not a straight-up bonfire - if all Karma was removed.  I like your idea, Pat.  Smite = -1 Karma.

Poor Chelc.  We're changing her playground whilst she's away!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:43:50 PM
darlin, i caught it and ran all the way to the endzone, and patrick did the little dance --- all with 'i torch myself'....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:47:05 PM
Ah, yes.  My clientele... drunk forever in clever.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:47:46 PM
so, Patrick, I'm guessing 'Using the 5 Senses in Developing Your Writing Technique' will not be the topic of your lecture at the conference?? (ref:  Billy Shakespeare's thread, hijacked into near obscurity)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:48:30 PM
drunk forever in clever.

ooohhhh, I likes!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 06:49:59 PM
Uh..uh..yikes..ya go to the powder room and the jury deliberates, rules and passes out.  :faint:

Well, I'm honored an uprising was staged in my name. Thanks for the support, soul-sistah JJ (SSJJ?) and Audy (yes I like your tag line.. I gave you karma for your back-up band).

I like the new policy, Patrick.

I guess removing karma works. We do like our karma, don't we? I think we are so starved for feedback from agents this soothes our frayed nerves.
Almost as good as the virtual buzz I get in this bar.

I SO can't keep up with all your 80s references...that I give up. S'kay...I'll just admire the pretty banter.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:51:04 PM
drunk forever in clever.

ooohhhh, I likes!

Thanks.  But remember, what's said in the Tavern stays in the Tavern!

I'm not even gonna give myself a glimpse, but is it safe to say Mr. Shakespeare will not be appearing on the 2008 QueryTracker Calendar?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 06:52:45 PM
You really should, go see Billy's nudes.  :emb2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 06:55:27 PM
By the way... 350+ Tavern posts in 6 days.  Think of the messes we'd have been making with other threads!

My plan is working!  I may have to pour me a bottle!

OK, so yeah, maybe we're still cluttering up a few of the threads... but it could have been - was on its way toward being - WAY worse!

So come to the Quillkeepers' Tavern, where words that don't matter really do matter!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 22, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
poor Billy Shakespeare, can you imagine?  posting nude pictures and having no one look at them?  god, that's, like, MY WORST FEAR!

I want bourbon, I want scotch, I want beer
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 22, 2007, 07:13:49 PM
I want a virgin strawberry daquiri!

Again!

:draw:

And I love what you've done with the karma, y'all!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 09:06:35 PM
So this horse walks into a bar >  :ride:

Bartender says, "Why the long face?"



<cricket... cricket... cricket>

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 22, 2007, 10:33:35 PM
Whoo boy - what a rowdy bunch we have now! Gotta say I love it! Give me some time guys and I'll show you how the drinking is done. :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 22, 2007, 10:38:21 PM
I just saw this on the other thread!!!!  :pg: How cool is that!!!!
But to make it a little more realistic it needs to be this face:  :werd: on this body:  :pg:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 22, 2007, 10:43:48 PM
I hear ya. Both of mine were late. Try to enjoy your free time. And do something that you won't be doing for a good long while after.

Sleep.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 22, 2007, 11:00:40 PM
I would like to volunteer to dive into a glass of vino for Senshi ( :pg: ) since she can't do so for herself just yet...

Here I go... diving...  :wine:


<perfect splash!, zero ripples>

Judges?

10.0      10.0      10.0      10.0      9.5 

Outrage!  Damn French judge!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 23, 2007, 06:40:06 AM
lol.

:draw:

Give me a virgin strawberry daquiri! I'm off to my first day of school.

Yipee Kai Ei!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 07:25:54 AM
Oh dear,school already. You sound happy, Mel...look out teachers!

...and four days left until I have to get off my duff and earn some wages.
I have to admit, with the crappy gray weather here (the freakin' leaves are turning orange—in August) I'm feeling summer's over.

cheer me up, A-man..otherwise I'm going to have to...

write something..or worse yet....send out some more queries into that great dead calm called August.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 10:39:27 AM
JW - I actually think end of August is a great time to send out a query or two.  Do it.  Put a bunch of agents names in a hat & just pull a couple out.  Maybe even find an agent who's not on your list.

It's like newbie Elk was saying... It's ultra-rad to be able to say, "So you're saying there's a CHANCE!"  In the days between sending & a reply, therin lies the possibility.  I play a couple sets of lottery numbers religiously.  Drawings are Saturdays & Wednesdays.  I do not tune into the drawing, but instead allow myself speculative bliss between 8pm (the TV drawing) and whatever time I look at the numbers in the morning paper.

So there.  You are cheered up.  Go knock out a query.

And Deputy Lane - Nothin' says first-day-of-school quite like swingin' through a Tavern on your way there!  I admire your dedication & am thinking of ways I can make virgin strawberry daquiris rain upon all Illinois high school  cafeterias.

I'd worry that you might find high school a bore were it not for the fact that you seem to be able to find entertainment everywhere.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 11:25:19 AM
Ah, A-man..what a role model you are for our young. I wonder what great achievements I would have managed if I had a mentor like you in my teen years.  :zip:

Anyway..on a serious note. I do have some queries out. Can you hear the echoing silence? I think I'll make better use of my last remaining days (sounds like I have a terminal disease) by slashing and whipping that WIP around. Here! Take that! (don't get excited, A..that's for my WIP, not you).

 :whip:

And when I'm not writing...I will continue to attempt to wake my sleeping son...(yes it is 12:20 PM NY time). And I will wait for the cable guy. And I will rejoice that that sun has finally peeped through the clouds.

And I will pull up a stoll and say, howdy strangers, what's the low down?

Hmmm. I hear school bells dinging in the distant south lands. Calling me. I'm needed there.

Maybe it is time to go back to the teeming masses and leave Moo behind.

(not all of you...Moo..as I call the boonies where I have been hiding out since July 1).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 23, 2007, 11:33:04 AM
Senshi, nice avatar.  Is that you after :pg:?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 11:34:58 AM
More queries!  Stat!

So long as you're not mass mailing 40-50 at once, there's no harm in having as many queries out in the agency ether as you can keep track of. 

Here - Want me to help?  PM me with names of agents you've queried.  I'll study 'em & come up with a couple names you may not have considered.  That way you can blame me if an evil rejection slip follows.  Obviously you don't have to if you don't want to, but my offer stands for 24 hours!  Maybe 48. :wink:

And yes, that's me <cough, cough>, barkeep, fledgling author & role model!  :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
Oh good, I've been looking for someone to help me serve beverages...

Senshi's avatar is so hired!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 11:49:47 AM
Go ahead...make a random suggestion. I already have a list 90 strong. I've gone through about, 25? Got about 15 rejections (maybe more). No, I'm not giving up hope at all. I just don't want that waiting by the computer feeling right now (while I happen to be sitting waiting by the computer). I'm going to start again next week, when I'll be all preoccupied with work and such. I'll still find time to fret, of course, but not as much.

Oh, and hey..don't worry about me getting too busy to sling back some virtual brew at QT. I'm always online..Even when I'm teaching! Students think I'm searching for cool and educational websites. I even have a class website I could theoretically be working on. Then there's office hours...and uhhh..pergatory..I have like ten hours of registration looming next week and I hope you guys keep me laughing or I may go postal in there.  :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 12:01:34 PM
JW - If you're game for the random agent, I'd still like to know who you've queried & what your genre is precisely (YA Fantasy?  Just wanna confirm).  I want my random names to be more than random & I have tons of notes from agent research of last spring.  I figure a PM will be useful here just for some sorta psuedo-anonymity reason I can't quite put my finger on.

Also, are you equally cool with snail & email queries?  Do you have a special synopsis for those who require one?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 12:05:07 PM
Hey..you are as nice as you are wacky. And that's a good combo.

Okay...I'll send you a list. Yes, it's YA urban fantasy, and yes I have a synopsis all ready to go. If I export my querytracker info could I send your that?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 12:14:12 PM
If I export my querytracker info could I send your that?

I doubt it.  I am computer illiterate and my PC has the strength of a calculator.  I recall clicking on the export function & my PC froze (NOTE:  Pat - this is completely a me problem - don't think of it as a glitch).  I cannot open many many files & programs b/c I do not have the software.

Anyway... just names if you could?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 12:19:02 PM
Lunchtime - can I have the first of my three martinis, please?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 12:24:06 PM
Lunchtime - can I have the first of my three martinis, please?

Only three today?  Whatssa' matta', punk - still reeling from yesterday's shenanigans?

OK.  Maybe I'll put all three into our special Colossus Martini glass & we'll see what happens next.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 12:49:10 PM
Quote
Anyway... just names if you could?

done...all pretty-like. Man that took some time..oh and the cable guy is here. YAY!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Cole Gibsen on August 23, 2007, 12:58:25 PM
Senshi, nice avatar.  Is that you after :pg:?
Oh good, I've been looking for someone to help me serve beverages...

Senshi's avatar is so hired!

Yep, this pic was taken of me exactly nine monthes ago. I believe I was hunting the magical snorknak in the ardwynian forest at the time...ah the good times. ;D
But seriously, I felt this pic mirrored my name "Senshi", taken from my first ms, which means warrior. It was also something to do at four in the morning when I was up with those pesky braxton hicks contractions. Blah! :pg:
But you know what, now that it's been brought up, I don't feel like being so nice anymore. When I posted my synopsis eons ago a certain person mocked my story saying that it was unrealistic because there were no women samurai. Well, criticize my writing if you want, but not my research! There were plenty of woman samurai and to start that certain person can check out the book Secrets of the Samurai: A Survey of the Martial Arts of Feudal Japan.
Whew! There I said it and now my claws are retracted and I'm back to being nice...for now >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 01:04:54 PM
ahh niceness is often mis-defined -- when someone is unkind, being 'nice' in return is actually being 'foolish', imho!  best of luck to you in your final minutes of nonmotherhood!  i like JWs suggestion:  sleep!

as for me, i still have work to do this afternoon, so just the james bond-sized martini today, please.

off topic - do you think there ever were REAL '3martini lunches'???  god.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 03:12:28 PM
First of all...why doesn't JJ have an avatar yet?

Second...I can't imagine having a real martini during the day and ever getting anything done.

Third: Here's what i did today that's to A-man's gentle prodding and help...i queried two more agents. Now...i really, really should write! I've been reviewing the same darn page all day. Guess I'll let a few more loose tommorrow.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 03:25:38 PM
Where's that errant bartender? Hey? can't anyone get any service in this dump? :taz:

Okay..I'll just help myself to what's on tap...How about a little tea and sympathy?

I have already received a rejection from the query i sent, what...ten minutes ago? That has to be a record. It was a rather friendly rejection, but she probably sends them to everyone...Well..tally-ho...guess I'll launch another rocket.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 03:39:39 PM
wow - 10 minutes?!  i'd say it had less to do with you and more to do with her/his backlog.

cheers on sending them out today!!  if you're in or around NYC, i know the weather you/we've been having - very demotivating.  you're my hero!

I lift my martini glass to you, JW!  I'd drink, too, but it's empty (where IS that bartender?!)

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 23, 2007, 03:49:29 PM
Allow me.  But no sympathy for jw.  Instead I have a special concoction for you: a nice double shot of persistence.  That, along with a handful of pretzels and the faith this group has in you, will go a long way.  Here, have another pretzel. 

(These pretzels are making me thirsty.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 04:03:44 PM
  :emb2: aw shucks...I'm touched (and not just in the head.)

Thanks...mmm..good pretzels. Very fortifying.

What I need now is a nap after a hard day of querying...Yes, JJ, I'm in upstate NY for now (or Moo as I call it) and the weather has been yucko all week. No lake floating. No admiring of cottony clouds drifting past. Just watching the minutes to my summer tick away until I make reentry to planet earth.

Patrick..I demand an avatar for that woman! And she gets karma. You? What do you have an auto-karma drip? Every time I look you have more!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 04:11:47 PM
Where's that errant bartender? Hey? can't anyone get any service in this dump? :taz:

OK OK OK... I'm here.  For a brief bit.

Partick's 100% right to serve you persistance shots.  You've gotten - what - something like 15 rejections?  My own stats are as follows: 

Sprung from the starting gate & fell flat on my face.  0-for-22 over 5 weeks.

Then suddenly something mixed in with the NYC water, and over the next 2-3 weeks, I went 6-for-12.

Then another dry spell.  Then another 50%-ish batch.

Just keep going.

I'm definitely sorry for your rejection & will slip a smidge of sympathy in with the persistance.  But I also firmly believe that exposure to rejection builds an immunity against them.

Chin up, soldier on!

And what d'ya mean "dump!"  Pffft.  As if.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 04:12:37 PM
no avatar for me, friend.  they distract me.  don't like emoticons, either.  not particularly crazy about colored fonts, although i use them once in a while.  i just likes me words - black words on a white background...ahhhh, like a pint of B&Js on a hot August day... hits the spot.

mmm, are these pretzels sour dough?  they are YUMMY!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 23, 2007, 04:15:06 PM
Joan, you better pick an avatar or jw will pick it for you.  Do you know how?

jw, I don't know where the karma is coming from either.  I guess I just have fans  :celeb:

And it's not even my birthday.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 23, 2007, 04:15:46 PM
no avatar for me, friend.  they distract me.  don't like emoticons, either.  not particularly crazy about colored fonts, although i use them once in a while.  i just likes me words - black words on a white background...ahhhh, like a pint of B&Js on a hot August day... hits the spot.

Spoken like a true writer. 

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 04:17:15 PM
Spoken like a true writer. 

...with a weight problem
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 04:21:56 PM

And what d'ya mean "dump!"  Pffft.  As if.

if you got a piano, drum kit and bass amp, and invited, say, dianne reeves to sing a bit, we could call it this place a Cabaret (old chum).... but when there's only a jukebox....i'm just sayin'

beer me - a nice frothy guiness with a lemon wedge, if you please - i'm writing.  intros.  god.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 04:48:49 PM
Well if you don't want an avatar at least use your own tag line:

i just likes me words.

Audie has a band..see:

:band:  

 :ban::ban::ban:
here's the singer: 
:dr:

hey that guy reminds me of someone.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 23, 2007, 07:13:32 PM
:draw:

**Jogs in from tennis practice**

Hey, y'all! I've missed you! The virgin strawberry daquiri helped. But I was ready to go back to school, and I love all of my classes (NEEK ALERT! NEEK ALERT!) (side note. Have I mentioned a 'neek' is a nerd + geek?). Chemistry, Trig, Spanish, Brit Lit, and Desktop Publishing/Graphic Design are all gonna rock! Wait...that's my whole schedule...hehehe. I got out early because of the heat (I really needed the rain of strawberry daquiries), but we still had to practice.

Way up there, audal's right. I do find entertainment in everything. And if I didn't, yeah, high school WOULD be a bore. ;) My fav thing to do at lunch (other than talking to people) is watch undercover cops. Now THAT'S entertainment.  :up:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 07:17:55 PM
Such energy... :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 07:24:21 PM
glad your first day back was great - i always loved the first day of school.  but, i'm confused - is there a tv show called undercover cops, or does your school have actual undercover cops?

david cassidy played an undercover high school cop once in a comeback series ages ago.  he wasn't quite as cute then - just short. (here's the imdb link: http://imdb.com/title/tt0077001/)(wow, i'm really excelling at procrastinating today)

anyway, cheers!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 23, 2007, 07:58:15 PM
They're not very good under cover cops if everybody know who they are.

And jw, what's with the new avatar?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 08:15:24 PM
 :bang: :bang: :bang:

Absurd stupid question that doesn't deserve its own thread.  So I'll post here & take a mini-poll.

Which sentence is right:

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my 37th birthday spilled into his 40th.

or

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my thirty-seventh birthday spilled into his fortieth.


I know numbers > 10 are fine in their numerical form... But I'm just having one of those long WIP days where my brain can't grasp this one.  Both look completely wrong.  Can't see the forest or the trees.   :bang:  :bang: :bang:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 23, 2007, 08:29:05 PM
^^^ No. Clue.

Yes, we have undercover cops.

And they're really good until the day they're making a bust. Then they stick handcuffs in their jeans. And it's purty obvious when they flash their badge and lead someone out of the cafeteria...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 08:32:41 PM
Oh well.  Thanks for trying.  Parting gifts available backstage,

I'll sort it out eventually.

So if your school has undercover cops and you're technically a deputy, does this make you under-undercover?

Uh oh... hold on... I hear 'em pluggin' in...

 :band:

Sing us a song!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 08:35:04 PM
Patrick...I got sick of my avatar...needed a change. Don't you like her? Doesn't she remind you of anyone?


I thought it would be easy to answer your question, A...this is what I found. Now I think we are both more confused than ever.


Writing Numbers

1) Spell out numbers between zero and ten and use figures for all other numbers.

Examples: two cats, 11 materials, one attempt, 20,000 residents

Unfortunately, there are a number of exceptions to this general guideline. Make sure that you are as familiar with the exceptions as you are with the rule.

Exceptions:

Mathematical operations
Raised to the power of 4
Units of measurement
6 feet
Age
9 years old
Time
1 pm
Dates
June 8, 2001
Page numbers
Page 4
Percentages
2 percent
Money
$5
Proportions
100:1
All numbers that begin a sentence should be spelled out.
Seven times the tests failed.

2) When you use two or more numbers in the same section of writing, use figures. This makes them easier to see and compare.

Example: We are requesting funding to purchase 25 pumps, 15 fans, and 5 ducts.

Exception:
If none of the numbers included is larger than 10, then spell out all of the numbers.
We are requesting funding to purchase nine pumps, six fans, and three ducts.

3) Form the plural of a number by adding ’s.
Example: All of the 15’s tested within acceptable limits.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 08:36:37 PM
Quote
Then they stick handcuffs in their jeans. And it's purty obvious when they flash their badge and lead someone out of the cafeteria...

How do they stay undercover? Do they go to class? Sounds like a cool premise for a YA. My boyfriend was a narc.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 23, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
:bang: :bang: :bang:

Absurd stupid question that doesn't deserve its own thread.  So I'll post here & take a mini-poll.

Which sentence is right:

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my 37th birthday spilled into his 40th.

or

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my thirty-seventh birthday spilled into his fortieth.


I know numbers > 10 are fine in their numerical form... But I'm just having one of those long WIP days where my brain can't grasp this one.  Both look completely wrong.  Can't see the forest or the trees.   :bang:  :bang: :bang:


Maybe it is just the whole spilled thing. (You've been serving too many drinks here; you've got spilled on the brains.)

How about.  Silas Donnelly and I met on the night of my thirty-seventh birthday and the eve of his fortieth.

 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 08:40:06 PM
If none of the numbers included is larger than 10, then spell out all of the numbers.

^^^
That's it right there!  Thanks!

And btw... I def dig the new av. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 08:44:24 PM


Hey MJ - what brings you into the Tavern?

Funny thing is, I've already replaced the spill... And while I know your sentence suggestion is more... appropriate?  Clean?  Something like that.  Anyway, I tend to shoot for a more off-kilter narrative.  To my benefit or bane, who knows at this point?

'Preciate it, though.

Horsefly Martini?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 08:46:14 PM
Yes, but what of the exceptions? Ah..don't sweat that...that's not going to prevent an agent from wanting your ms.

Glad you like the avatar. I think it's more expressive than my artwork that i am so sick of. Not a big anime fan, but this felt right.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 08:54:22 PM
Yes, but what of the exceptions? Ah..don't sweat that...that's not going to prevent an agent from wanting your ms.

Amen!  Funny how such tiny things throw up epic roadblocks just when you think you're rollin' along at a good clip.

37th and 40th.  Final answer.  Fingers crossed it won't keep me from representation.

And one finger will become very uncrossed if it does!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 09:25:55 PM
:bang: :bang: :bang:

Absurd stupid question that doesn't deserve its own thread.  So I'll post here & take a mini-poll.

Which sentence is right:

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my 37th birthday spilled into over into  his 40th.

or

Silas Donnelly and I met on the night my thirty-seventh birthday spilled into his fortieth.



oops, didn't see that the question was already resolved.  but, i still think you need spilled over to give the impression of overlap.  or not.  i'm prepositionally-crazed AND -challenged at the same time - i can never remember which goes with which - is it 'in consideration of' or 'in consideration for', for example....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 23, 2007, 09:37:13 PM
I think it's "In consideration of"

Anyway... Thanks, JJM.  I changed from spilled to trickle... then changed it back again when I realized what the rest of the paragraph was gonna be.  It's all just a big musical puzzle to me & I have great fun even with the many misfires.  I just love tinkering with language.

Cheers to us tinkerers!  :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 23, 2007, 09:52:19 PM
yeah, i love the tinkering, too!  and, i'm very glad you think it's 'of' - since that's what i've been writing in my futile cover letters.

haven't tried a query yet, but i can only imagine the blockage that occurs...cover letters suck - THEY'RE BOTH JUST ONE BIG INTRO....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 23, 2007, 10:12:52 PM
Oh, they're way worse than that. It's almost as bad as the rejection 13 year old pimply boy gets asking a girl to dance. (I only know the other end of that—waiting to get asked, which is almost as bad).

Am I not being encouraging? I don't mean to discourage, only innoculate. And Aud...you should only know what you started. I sent out about 6 today. Bottom listers. Figure I'll work my way up to the middle...I used up the top, top of my list...

PS...on another message board I saw a mooning smiley!!! I want that Patrick, I want that!

Who is giving out all this karma? What did I do..every time I look I have more?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 24, 2007, 01:37:14 AM
(swings open doors, waits for dust to settle, looks around)

Empty?

Hmmm.

Well then.  All in all, a purty goll-darn good day.  Managed to look over Dan's first-rate pages... Nudged JW into 1-2-3-4-5-SIX new & exciting queries... Doused the Deputy with an unexpected mid-day daquiri downpour... Hired a fierce lady samurai to help out at the Tavern.

And that was just the on-line stuff.

Also finally hit that stride that we all aspire toward when writing... That perfect mish-mash of writing new words & editing what's been written all in the same strokes.  You know - when you find all the right slots for the oddly shaped pegs?  yeah, that.  I believe "The Zone" is the appropriate term.  Managed to tackle a solid thousand-plus words in the WIP (as opposed of course to the liquid words, which make a mess all over the page.  Or worse, the gaseous words, which just plain stink).

Yep, yep, yep... Darn good day.  And where in tar-nation are all these here karma points comin' from?!

Well, last time I looked a gift-horse in the mouth, the ol' nag slobbered all over me.  Truly revolting.  So I guess I'll just be lettin' the ol' gift horse gallop. 

So now I roll these tired bones on into this quiet tavern... pour myself a pint of anything - don't care, everything tastes good on the darn good days.

(sits back, savors, chills, guzzles)

Oh-kee-dokey then!

Patrick - if you're here early tomorrow morn, there's fresh bloody mary mix behind the bar.  Or coffee.  Tell you what - try a bit of both & let 'em fight it out!

JW - I look forward to hearing tales of send-me-more-material.

And Deputy - I mightn't yet be up when you mosey on in for your pre-school V-Straw-Daq, so if you'll just have a look-see in the fridge, you'll find one pre-made and sittin' there between the chilled-mug-of-prosperity and the rhubarb pie.

S'all for tonight, folks.  Last Call!

<jukebox whirs & clicks & settles>

'Cause I'm a cowboy
On a steel horse I ride
Yes I'm-a-wanted (wannnnnn-ted)
Dead Or Alive...


mpeg of me on steel horse, riding: 8/23/07 >>  :ride:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 24, 2007, 09:04:01 AM
well, this site is just motivation central - the morning ended up being exactly the opposite of what I had planned, but that's a very good thing because - i just wrote another story!  another 5 pages - seems to be the length and breadth of my thinking.  and, it was such fun remembering this escapade - it was 12 years ago. 

nothing like fond memories and lots of laughter, especially after you've missed a bus and now the whole day's plans are moot.

i'll be drinking that coffee, too, if you don't mind, Patrick!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 24, 2007, 09:23:29 AM
Here, here!

Glad to hear we regulars to the tavern are swilling down more than booze. Looks like yesterday was a productive day for some of us.
Good for you both, JJ and Audie..great to hear those WIPs are swelling up with words! Solid words as opposed to gaseous ones (good one, A-man  :))

Not only did I send out no less than six queries at Aud's insistence (stamp his foot insistence i could not refuse, mind you), but I did some major evisceration and edits to the first 12 chapters of the WIP. I still haven't moved past that certain stall point, but at least the beginning is working for now.

Also had great news about my crit-mate of 2 and a half years having two fulls out on her wonderfully funny MG. When we *met* online those years ago, neither of us could write worth spit. So we sort of grew up together as writers. You oughtta see her now. She's also won the smartwriter's first place for MG this year. So, I'm hoping with her success all boats rise. Hope the same happens here for all of us! Let me let you in on her secret:
she has listened to every crit, every revise and learned so much. We call her the Sponge. Here's a toast to Spongey! I've tried to lure her on here, but she's too busy on verlakay, I guess.

 :java:I think I'll help myself to a cup of caffeine to start the day. I've got company later..incoming eleven year olds and a mom. Looks like maybe JJ and I need to convert the QT to a coffee cafe in the morning until the bleary eye-barkeep stumbles in at a more reasonale hour for him.

PS..who is my mysterious karma giver?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 24, 2007, 09:28:35 AM
cheers!  what's a 'MG'?  and, yes, I believe it a rising tide........

second pot's a-brewin' and maybe an intro is on its way...

have fun with your company, JW!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 24, 2007, 09:53:36 AM
Middle grade novel...kids 8-12.
YA, young adult novel,,,ages 12-18.
All kinds of mini sub genres in there. My work in query is upper YA (14 and up) due to the profanity..(which believe it or not almost anything goes in upper YA, sex, death, you name it...).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 24, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
Friday night at home, the result of a chain of events - plans moved to Saturday to accomodate NEW plans that ended up not happening at the last minute....

rats!  last Friday was also at home, since Thursday's afternoon/early evening plans got moved to Friday, so Friday night got moved to this Friday, which then got moved to tomorrow (see above)...

i need to stop being so fluid in my calendar organizing!

speaking of fluid...who's tending tonight?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2007, 05:29:10 PM
I'll pour ya one.  But don't worry about ceremony around here.  Thirsty patrons are welcome to serve themselves, just leave a tip in the jar. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 24, 2007, 05:39:12 PM
Blech!  Disgusting!  My writing today =  :puke2:

I probably couldn't even write a shopping list today.  Words seem I can't right find places them for.  I'm all like "I like sweaters.  It's because they're warm.  And they're also soft sometimes, like sweaters."

OK, maybe it's not THAT bad, but still, blech!  Doesn't it always happen hot on the heels of a good writing day.  It's like the writing Gods had a smite with my name on it - "Not so fast, Audal (even the Gods are calling me that now)... don't you start thinkin' this is actually easy!"

Then they threw down their high voltage bolts and electrified my poor little head.

So I came by to virtually drink for a while.  Show of hands - who's ready to party like it's eight years ago?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2007, 05:42:31 PM
jw, is this the smiley of which you speak?   :moom:

I wasn't sure it was appropriate for the younger crowd. If any parents complain, I will have to remove it.

I don't think I'll be around a lot this weekend.  I have a lot on my agenda so I need to stay away as much as possible or I'll never get anything done.  We'll see how well that works out.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 24, 2007, 07:01:06 PM
 :band: <starts playin' Bad Moon Rising to welcome the new smiley into the tavern> :moom:

And hel-LO?  Should we Tavern regulars feel insulted that VRipley criss-crossed nearly the whole of the Forums with comments, yet did not venture into the Tavern?

What, are we such a rough-n'-tumble bunch that no new kids wanna come play with us?

 :band: <moves onto Van Morrison's Moondance>  :moom:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 24, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
How do you keep up with these posts!?!?!?!?!!?

Jeez. If you guys manage writing AND posting this much, I tip my hat to you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 24, 2007, 09:13:39 PM
How do you keep up with these posts!?!?!?!?!!?

Jeez. If you guys manage writing AND posting this much, I tip my hat to you.

i'm counting posts as writing....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 24, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
Just checking in guys...got company. Sitting here typing with guest in room. Is that rude?

Sorry you had a blah writing day, A (I keep shiftin nicknames, I'm a big nickname person, online and off). I wanted to write so badly, but all I've done is run around. Hope you get your mojo working!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2007, 10:29:23 PM
Dan, where's your avatar?  I hardly recognized you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 24, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
Where's Dan is general?
Man, when school starts, it's going to be even worse keeping up with this place  :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 24, 2007, 10:38:15 PM
Oh no, Dan and his avatar are missing.  I smell foul play.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 24, 2007, 10:41:31 PM
Yup, yup...
Eek!
We need Melanie!
And where is everyone tonight? It's not even 11! Chelsea comes back into the scene and POOF! you all disappear.
I think I'll serve myself a hot cocoa...extra fluffy marshmallows and extra swirly whipped cream. Mmm.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 25, 2007, 01:37:51 PM
I tried putting a different avatar on, but it didn't work. So I shall now go back to put my original.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 06:45:49 PM
Drinks are on me in celebration of farwalkers.com being chosen by Writers Digest as one of the 10 Best Writer's Websites of 2007.

We didn't win #1, but it is one of the 9 runner-ups.  Personally, I wasn't too impressed with the winner, but I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 06:46:11 PM
Well, I'm here to raise a glass to a bonafide winner....Patrick, here's to you, buddy!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 06:47:00 PM
so, where are you celebrating - in a hotel in portland, or home on the range?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 06:52:42 PM
Wow - Patrick was in such a hurry to share the triumph with the barflies that he even beat ME through the swingin' doors!

And Joan... well, she never leaves in the first place!

So yeah - excellent news!  :clap: :clap:

Please do buy us tons of drinks that were already free in the first place!

 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 06:55:16 PM
yo, au *hic* dal.. you sayin', uhh, i got a *hic* prob'em or sompin'??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 06:58:50 PM
Patrick, that is REALLY amazing! Here's a toast to you. What about QT?  :toast:

And speaking of toast...that's what I feel like. The weather here on the east coast has gone from freezing to sweltering. We spent all day at the lake then went to the driving range and go-carts. Phew...hot and breathless. No air conditioning in this place. Not conducive to sitting on the computer, writing or anything like that. Plus i caught Audal's mental short-circuit. All my creative nerve-endings went dead. Oh well!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 06:59:04 PM
Joan, it's only a problem if you spill some.  Oh, and I'm back home now.

Aud, sure the drinks may be free, but it's the thought that counts.  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 06:59:37 PM
PS..who is giving me all that karma? I wasn't even on all day!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 07:02:03 PM
yo, au *hic* dal.. you sayin', uhh, i got a *hic* prob'em or sompin'??

Nope.  Never.  If you said you were gonna stop drinkin' I'd call you a quitter!

In honor of the award-winning website Farwalkers.com...

REPEAT: award-winning website Farwalkers.com

I'm fixin' up a feast of deep-fried  :spam: for everyone!

OK, I'm not.  I just haven't used the smiley yet.  But I will fix up said fried treat upon request.  Nothin' but top shelf fare here at the tavern tonight!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 07:03:05 PM
PS..who is giving me all that karma? I wasn't even on all day!

Maybe you are getting karma for NOT being online?  Just kidding.

Writer's Digest also has a 101 best websites for writers.  We think QT has a really good chance to get on that list, which comes out next April.

I've got a lead on a t-shirt maker.  I hope to hear back from them on Monday.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 07:05:12 PM
Mmmm.  Spam.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 07:05:35 PM
in all honesty, even pretending to drink alcohol in this weather is no fun - man, it was nice and chilly all week BUT IT WAS RAINING, so I couldn't go outside...now, it's stopped raining, but it's so ridiculously hot...AGAIN...

geez.

just lots o'water for me, please..
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 07:05:59 PM
So if WD isn't releasing 101 websites 'til spring, does this mean QT has more time to grow before they make their final decision?  Not to sound over-confident, but if there are 101 slots... How could QT miss?  Hell, if there were 10 spots, how could QT miss?!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 07:06:16 PM
t-shirts!  how cool.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 07:07:40 PM


Quote
REPEAT: award-winning website Farwalkers.com


Yeah!

 :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 07:13:03 PM
So if WD isn't releasing 101 websites 'til spring, does this mean QT has more time to grow before they make their final decision?  Not to sound over-confident, but if there are 101 slots... How could QT miss?  Hell, if there were 10 spots, how could QT miss?!

I may be bias, but I don't see how QT can miss.  Looking at their 2007 list, it looks as if they had problems finding enough sites to fill it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 07:27:12 PM
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Maybe you are getting karma for NOT being online?  Just kidding.
HA-HA..laugh it up. And WHOM has the FILE for said t-shirt? Hmmmm? That alone should be worth, what, 100 karma points?  >:D
Just kidding. I don't want to be a karma FREAK.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 07:28:52 PM
jw, that last one was me  --  i love a good threat....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 07:30:13 PM
Wow, I mention free drinks and all of a sudden this place fills up.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 07:30:39 PM
Bias aside - you're not wrong.  I have maybe 20 writing sites bookmarked... but most of them are information based and not outright TOOLS for a writer.  You're a resource and a tool. 

(Um, did I just call you a tool?)

Never mind.

 :band: plays Kool and the Gang's "Celebration"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 07:31:47 PM
JW, it worked for me... so maybe you should give this a shot:

"Hello.  My name is JustWrite, and I'm a karma-holic"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 07:54:52 PM
Pfffft...my brain has turned into boiled cabbage. What's nice cool and refreshing to celebrate Patrick's big achievement?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 07:55:51 PM
boiled cabbage?  sounds like you need irish whisky!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 25, 2007, 07:57:04 PM
How about spam and cabbage?  Aud, I think you have a customer for your spam.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 08:09:36 PM
Hmmm do they make Irish Whiskey ICE CREAM?  :ho:

The weather this week has been totally bi-polar, hasn't it JJ?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 08:27:14 PM
How about spam and cabbage?  Aud, I think you have a customer for your spam.

You really have to be careful to combine spam and a tavern like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZofX15TsI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZofX15TsI)


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 08:36:45 PM
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying..remember THIS??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7YedEopp4
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 25, 2007, 08:43:14 PM
You're a resource and a tool. 

(Um, did I just call you a tool?)
:rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 08:55:55 PM
How about spam and cabbage?  Aud, I think you have a customer for your spam.

Spam & Cabbage?

Absolutely.  Let me just grab an oxygen mask and a couple cans of Lysol, then I'll get right to it!

What are these YouTube links all about?  Do I dare?  Does this place even have a TV?  I thought we took it out on account of Deputy Lane going all cuckoo on a virgin strawberry daquiri jag & shootin' up the joint!

And to JW & JJM... you wanna hear a real weather shocker?

It rained in LA today.  For about 90 seconds.  People panicked.  Pets were promptly ushered indoors.  Streets were closed & Paris Hilton's hair went like-y'know-totally-pffft!

Then the sun came out again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 25, 2007, 08:57:15 PM
love the subtitles!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
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It rained in LA today.  For about 90 seconds.  People panicked.  Pets were promptly ushered indoors.  Streets were closed & Paris Hilton's hair went like-y'know-totally-pffft!

That's so funny! I remember once we were in SF a really long time ago and they had a bit of a downpour and cars just literally stopped on the highway! We were so puzzled. Stop for rain? A hurricane, maybe, but rain?

You HAVE, HAVE,HAVE to click on the youtube spam link. I promise you will laugh until you cry and you will never think of spam in the same way again.

Now serve me up a Spam, with Spam, but hold the Spam, sir.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 09:10:59 PM
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying..remember THIS??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7YedEopp4

Oh geese!  How could of I forgotten that one!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
How about spam and cabbage?  Aud, I think you have a customer for your spam.


Or spam spam spam spam cabbage and spam.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 09:15:59 PM
I forgot it too, but then I had the idea to search for SPAM on youtube and it came right up. I think I'm going to watch that whenever I need a good laugh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 09:48:36 PM
Waggggh...everyone's avoiding the bar talking about nasty things like school and college.  I will be in college FOREVER. I work there.

Anyway, I need a Spam Chaser. Make it a double.

The bartender is partying on other threads. I think Chelc is trying to start her own hotspot.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 25, 2007, 09:56:19 PM
Good evening everyone!  I just want to say...I am a Quillkeeper virgin...so please be gentle  :emb:   I've tried to catch up on the threads, but only got about half way through before the kids started tugging on me (silly little buggers wanted to be fed)   ;D  So, now they are comfortably stuffed and watching a movie. 

You know, I just realized, that any time I need to do something (you know, important stuff like reading the threads here!) I put the kids in front of the tv.  So on average, they are probably watching about 29 hours a day.  Does that make me a bad mom?   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 09:59:05 PM
Not according to my school of parenting. (then again I'm the mother of the C student..oh, okay, B-).
Soon you'll be able to set them up on the computer so they can grow up to be nerds like the rest of us.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 10:00:14 PM
It's okay about not catching up.  I haven't.  I only pop in here once in a while for a drink and a bite to eat.


(snapping fingers) "Where's my spam, spam, spam, coffee and spam?"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 25, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
Waggggh...everyone's avoiding the bar talking about nasty things like school and college.  I will be in college FOREVER. I work there.

Anyway, I need a Spam Chaser. Make it a double.

The bartender is partying on other threads. I think Chelc is trying to start her own hotspot.
Am I? Where? ;D
btw, JW, I feel like I haven't really talked to you in a long time! What's up?
And on the subject of spam...There's this spam museum ad that a friend of mine cut out of a magazine freshman year because she thought it was funny, but she threw it away. Then last year, all the sudden it started turning up everywhere. She would find it somewhere like in her folder or locker, and then throw it away, only to find it again a couple days later...so we decided the spam gods were haunting her...but around May it finally dissapeared for good...or so we thought.
We found it in her flip folder (a thing you use in band that you strap to your arm so you can read music as you're marching) while at the football game last night! It was hysterical...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 10:02:06 PM
Whoops!  Sorry I'm late!  Gave Chelc the podium tonight on account of her absence.  But now that I've sufficiently soap-boxed 'em til the screaming point (shhhh... hear them?), I'd like to ring the bell for Elkette, who's just stepped in for the very first time...

...and didn't turn tail screaming at the very sight of our little zoo!

Welcome!  Pull up a seat!  Jukebox in the corner!  New customer's choice!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 25, 2007, 10:05:34 PM
Anyway, I'm out for tonight! My brother needs me to organize stuff for him.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 10:08:00 PM
Ooooh, Chelc...that's intriguiing... the case of the Haunted Spam. You have to check out that Monty Python spam youtube link.
 
I can go for a frozen Spam Margerita right now. Would you just please toss it on me?
And talk about stupid, sitting here with this hot freaking laptop on my lap talking about spam. Like, I really do have boiled cabbage for brains.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 10:10:10 PM
Sorry, JW, for frozen spam margaritas, you have to BYOB.

That would be Bring-Your-Own-Blender, because HEL-LO -- Spam in a blender?  :puke2:

Even this place draws the line somewhere!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 25, 2007, 10:12:34 PM
No spam for me! I've never actually tried spam before...sounds like gross  :puke:
I'm really awake tonight...I should be reading, I just got Eclipse! JW, I'm only on page 340ish and your assessment of it has already turned out too true...but it isn't bad, just forced if you get what I mean.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 10:15:12 PM
Ecccch-clipse. pfffffft
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 10:15:31 PM
(snapping fingers) "Where's my spam, spam, spam, coffee and spam?"

Holy cow - I can't keep up!  Where's that new lady samurai avatar I hired? 

Hmmmph.  Great warrior, lousy barmaid!

Miss J never stays here long.  It's like the cocktail might be an affront to the coffee or something!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 25, 2007, 10:17:25 PM
Ecccch-clipse. pfffffft
Hehe. You really didn't like it did you? ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 25, 2007, 10:22:35 PM
Ooooo, my choice, ummm, let's see...I've always been partial to "Freaks Come Out at Night" - I wonder why I like that song so much   ;D   Oh crap - I mean Yeah!  My husband's home.  Guess I gotta leave now, just when I sat down too.  Don't worry, I'm sure I'll return tonight.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 25, 2007, 10:26:52 PM
Jukebox and/or karaoke tip for Elkette: 

When you return & make a song selection, your tune must be punctuated with this >  :band:

That way we'll all know it's time to put down the quill for a second and just plain rock out!

Well, I also am gonna step away from the pub for a bit.  Thinkin' 'bout dialin' up a movie of some sort... Intrigued by the idea of Pan's Labyrinth - anyone see it?

Guess I'll get my answer in a couple hours or so.

Y'all take care of the Tavern whilst I'm lounging elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 10:34:41 PM
Quote
Ecccch-clipse. pfffffft
Hehe. You really didn't like it did you?

Well, I had the most wonderful crush on Edward and she's ruined it by turning him into a BORE. Yeesh. I guess it's a testament to the power of her earlier books, but this book left me pissed. Like, nothing really ever happens. Ever. Finish so we can diss it!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 25, 2007, 10:44:11 PM
(snapping fingers) "Where's my spam, spam, spam, coffee and spam?"

Holy cow - I can't keep up!  Where's that new lady samurai avatar I hired? 

Hmmmph.  Great warrior, lousy barmaid!

Miss J never stays here long.  It's like the cocktail might be an affront to the coffee or something!


I like to duck in and out.

Keeps people wondering what I am doing.... >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 25, 2007, 10:58:49 PM
I'm wondering if his barmaid gave birth. She said she was going to be induced on the 31st, but maybe baby had other plans.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 09:44:46 AM
Jeez, guys. I come home from a straight day of tennis and there're 82 new posts in the Tavern alone! That's wild!

And...I'm back in black! :band:

Anyway, I lost two, one won, and lost another tennis match. But, hey, I was playing all these awesome Chicago schools. :shrug:

:draw: It feels WAY too good to do that again. :draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 11:03:34 AM
Too quiet in here.  Seen enough Westerns to know that when an ominous hush hovers over the local watering hole, it usually means there's outlaws-a-comin'.

People, prepare for a battle! 

Or - Plan B - Prepare for a bottle!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 26, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
I NEED COFFEE!
One hazelnut mocha please!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 11:23:08 AM
You're lucky you tracked down a please to throw down at the end of that!

But since we're apparently preparing to do battle with unknown outlaws, I suspect we'll all need to be as vigilant & alert as possible, so...  :java: :java: :java: :java: :java:

Drink up!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 11:55:07 AM
:draw:

Outlaws?

Bring 'em on. And a mocha moolatte, if you please ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 26, 2007, 12:26:14 PM
Outlaws named Francis?  Who would dare with Deputy Mel around?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 12:32:25 PM
Outlaws named Francis?  Who would dare with Deputy Mel around?

That's what I'm sayin'!  I mean now that she's back from the tennis courts, I'm thinkin' the outlaws have picked a bad day to try us!

But oh, that hush over the tavern this morning.  I heard that high-noon-gunfight whistle that I don't think I can spell. 

But watch me try!

(whistling) "Phooey-ooey-ooooo, ooo-ooo-oooooh"

Oh dear god.  Someone hit the jukebox.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 26, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
Um, HI? Nobody here? Well I'll just leave the tip on the bar and be off, then.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 26, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
I'm here ;D
For a sec...well at least I planned for it only to be a sec, but really, is that possible here?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 26, 2007, 01:11:01 PM
And I'm usually standing outside, by the tavern's window. With all the commotion , I don't usually enter.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 26, 2007, 01:12:25 PM
That sounds smart...I'm surprised there hasn't been a bar fight yet!
Hehe
Who here throws the best punch?  :wink:
My bet's on Mel
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 26, 2007, 01:16:13 PM
Did anyone else notice that justwrite has more posts than Patrick? Do we have an award for that? Audal, this is where you come in with a clever award title...
 :award:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 01:18:37 PM
Did anyone else notice that justwrite has more posts than Patrick? Do we have an award for that? Audal, this is where you come in with a clever award title...
 :award:

Yes it is.

JW: The QT posters Poster Girl.

Any further questions?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 26, 2007, 01:22:14 PM
 :rolf: :rof2: :rof3:

Audal, where do you come up with these things???

I have to give JW some karma now.

And you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 26, 2007, 01:22:31 PM
Did anyone else notice that justwrite has more posts than Patrick? Do we have an award for that? Audal, this is where you come in with a clever award title...
 :award:

Yes it is.

JW: The QT posters Poster Girl.

Any further questions?
See, I never doubted your abilities for a second.  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 01:26:37 PM
Thanks.  I try.

The brain is a finely tuned instrument.  I think mine's in A-Sharp today.

And now, back to my ballgame!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 02:16:32 PM
:box:

Outlaws tremble at the thought of me, I'm sure.

We really need an evil grin smiley. Wait! Here it is!  >:D

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 26, 2007, 03:46:21 PM
More posts then me?  That's OK, she's storing them up before she has to go back to work.  Kind of like squirrel.  A poster girl squirrel.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 03:55:48 PM
A poster girl squirrel.

 :rolf:

OK... while I do like JW's new avatar greatly, what I really want to see in it's place is a poster-girl-squirrel!  I applaud any and all attempts to subvert the basic tenets of genetics & biology.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 26, 2007, 05:11:11 PM
Har-har...So why shouldn't I have the most posts. Bet I can TALK you all under the table in person, too!!
But if you think about it, at the rate A-man's going to overtake me soon. I've been on here since late June, one of the earliest Beta testers except Miss J.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 26, 2007, 05:33:00 PM
Hummm....

So why do I only have 136 posts??


Wait...


137  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 05:44:54 PM
:draw:

Squirrels make me laugh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 26, 2007, 05:54:20 PM
I hear ya.  Those tails are so ticklish.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 05:57:39 PM
Did anyone vote for Zippy the Squirrel?

I did.

And the Yo Yo Cafe is open for buisness!

And we have classy sandwiches!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 06:24:12 PM
And the Yo Yo Cafe is open for buisness!

Wow - how can I not admire the brazen tenacity of a gal who strolls into one establishment & essentially says "this place blows - come on over to mine!"

Oh, that's right, she's the one with the weapons.

Luckily I've been given a psuedo-co-proprieter spot on the Yo-Yo board of directors.  ("Hi, I'm Yo, and this is my business partner "Yo")

I can't even resent the dig at our unclassy sandwiches.  Not when  :spam: was last night's most popular entree.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 06:43:07 PM
I fear there might be poetry readings at the cafe, and I go into anaphylactic shock when anyone speaks in meter...i'll stick with the tavern even with the possibility (likelihood) of bad 70s rock songs sung by eyenumbing emoticons, coz at least I have a chance of lemony selfdefense.

sorry, kiddo!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 06:46:01 PM
A blast from the past
Burns past with hurricane force
blowing back the hair of my convictions
until all meaning is lost.

Beat poetry free verse by Lotheus :celeb:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 06:49:27 PM
***gasp***ge** getttt****th'**gurgle**epipehhhhhhhhhhhh
thump
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 06:53:31 PM
MU-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!! >:D  Death by bad poetry.  What could be worse??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 07:10:33 PM
what could be worse?  NOTHING COULD BE WORSE.  except folk music.  folk music kills you semi-dead with each and every tortured verse, and then, once you've resusitated, it kills you AGAIN........folk music.  poetry.  the anthrax and botulism of words.



edited to add emphasis.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 07:12:16 PM
If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning... :band:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 07:13:34 PM
i always wanted to rewrite those lyrics, ala weird al:

if i had a hammer, i'd hammer peter.  i'd hammer mary.  i'd hammer Pa-aul...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 07:18:50 PM
I love Weird Al.  Have you heard his remake of Ridin'?  White N Nerdy.  Oh, man.  It is awesome.  That guy gets less credit than he deserves...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 07:26:10 PM
haven't really followed weird al after my son outgrew him - i enjoyed the concert we saw more than anyone, i think.  Amish Paradise...still makes me chuckle.  has there ever been a better video than 'Eat It'??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 07:32:24 PM
Well, I don't know.  I guess I'll just have to go watch every other video in history now. ;D  I hear the Mamas and the Papas had some awesome videos...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 07:41:07 PM
i think you can apply statistics to the issue.  for instance, today, I watched 10 videos - one old concert footage from the 70s, one late 80s and several 'new millenium' delights.

truly amazing in their blandness.  Eat It, on the other hand, was something else.

*'Thriller' was a mini-movie, so it doesn't count.
**Lazy Sunday and D**k In a Box may count, dunno.  If so, then Eat It may have to bite it
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 07:53:28 PM
Anyone ever heard Weird Al's Virus Alert?

VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRUS ALERT! DELETE IMMEDIATELY BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT! FOWARD THIS MESSAGE OUT TO EVERYBODY!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 07:59:27 PM
^^^ See!  Look at that - we're already visiting each other's establishments!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 08:00:35 PM
They're next door, after all.

We should have a secret passage in the basement of each leading to the other ;)

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 08:23:46 PM
Okay, let's not start talking about tunnels in the basement and such.  That's just weird.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 08:43:27 PM
 :draw:

This is the way I see it.

The Hallowed Tavern is like Coyote Ugly, whilst the Yo Yo Cafe has it's ups and downs (hardee har har) and is like Starbucks. Only not expensive and confusing.

You have to be in the mood for either.

Oh darned. No one's coming to the Cafe when they can go to Coyote Ugly!  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 08:54:43 PM
nah, I think you'll get filled up quick - after all, there's always a line at starbucks and they charge $3.50 for coffee!!!  and, they call it weird things - what the heck is 'venti'???

nope, you'll get overwhelmed soon enough.  no worries.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 09:00:34 PM
I don't drink coffee, so I'm not cool, I guess.  i drink Pepsi.  I was in California this weekend, and it was really hard to find a Pepsi!  It was like being down south again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 09:02:57 PM
Oh darned. No one's coming to the Cafe when they can go to Coyote Ugly!  :(

(LOL like a freak on a ferris wheel.)

And sorry, Loth... I'll second the motion for a not-so-secret secret passageway between the two establishments.  We can line the walls of the tunnel with funhouse mirrors and strobe lights.  It'll be excellent.  Joan will freak out at the very disco of it all :wag:!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 09:06:10 PM
(Bee Gees playing "Jive Talkin'" on the jukebox)  One more Long Island, barkeep.  Two twists of lime this time!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 09:07:46 PM
HA!  shows what you know - i love disco!  well, not the clothes, but you can't beat KC when it comes to weeding music.  although, a secret tunnel is sorta creepy - i'll second whoever said that.

play that funky music, white boy!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 09:10:07 PM
OK, so Joan's on board with the Trippy Tunnel?

Remember, it's a not-so-secret secret tunnel.  You see how that changes things? 

No one will bite unless you request as such.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 09:12:42 PM
Now, where did the biting thing come from?  This is getting weird... :surprise:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 26, 2007, 09:14:24 PM
Lol.

I'm too sexy for my shirt...

It was either that or...

ICE ICE BABY!

**Grabs handy Starbucks phrase book** (My town has arrived. We actually have a Starbucks!...not that it'll last a year...who drinks coffee more expensive than gas, anyway?)

A venti is a 24 fl. OZ drink. And it's a Trademark of BigBucks Starbucks, INC.

I LOVE this little cheat sheet thingy!

:draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 09:17:48 PM
I was about to call the Deputy to have Right Said Fred & Vanilla Ice removed from the tavern, but then I saw that she was the one who brought 'em in in the first place!

Shameful trying to sabotage us like that!  You KNEW it'd scare the riff-raff away!

Brilliant move, actually...

Speaking of strong coffee... I just made a batch strong enough to jumpstart a pickup truck.  The intent is a long night with the WIP.

Key word: intent.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 26, 2007, 09:19:15 PM
Hey, intent is a start!

Pour me a cup.  I can sit it next to my wine cooler.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 26, 2007, 09:19:59 PM
OK, so Joan's on board with the Trippy Tunnel?

Remember, it's a not-so-secret secret tunnel.  You see how that changes things? 

No one will bite unless you request as such.

well, when I said 'creepy' I sorta meant.... 'creepy'. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 09:20:23 PM
Intent is nothing.  I intended to write a novel for ten years before I actually did it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 09:30:55 PM
Miss Java seeks java with the extra kick to accompany her...  :surprise: Wine Cooler?!?

I won't ask.  I'll just send along this already head-spinning  :java: :java: :java:

Complimentary Motrin available on request.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 10:27:51 PM
The barkeep's away!  Let's tear this joint apart!! :cool: :taz: :flame: :wine: :p1: :p2: :p3: :duet: :d3: :jump: :band: :moom: :whip: :box: :ride:  :bear: :toast: :ban:

Hey, no one else is here...  Good thing I can entertain myself!:cool: :taz: :flame: :wine: :p1: :p2: :p3: :duet: :d3: :jump: :band: :moom: :whip: :box: :ride:  :bear: :toast: :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 10:35:15 PM
That's right - go ahead and thear the place to tavern pieces... But answer this so you can earn the privilege:

Grammar question - which is correct:

“I had a near death experience,” I say, as though overreaction was fact.

or

“I had a near death experience,” I say, as though overreaction were fact.

My gut says #2. 

Little help?  Karma to the winner?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 10:38:48 PM
#2.  No doubt.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 10:45:14 PM
Note your shiny new karma point.

Thanks.  I was a good 90% sure it was as well, but I've seen how meticulous you've been with others' works and felt confident you'd solve it for good.

Porting Bruce campbell over here from the cafe b/c he's the kinda guy who'd appreciate teleportation...

Have you seen him in a supporting role in this fun new spy series on USA Network called "Burn Notice?"  Mischievous little show that's getting good press and a decent cable audience.  Thursdays at 10PM... but it's taking a couple weeks off for US Open Tennis.  Back early September.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 11:32:53 PM
No, never even heard of it, but I will check it out...  I love the Old Spice commercials he's been doing, though.  "And I'm hungry like the wooooooolf!"

Wow, that karma point is shiny!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 11:44:08 PM
  "And I'm hungry like the wooooooolf!"

HA!  Yeah, that commercial is OUTSTANDING!

Only here in the Tavern, don't forget to properly sing it like this, see?

 :band:  "And I'm hungry like the wooooooolf!"

You see the difference?

I'm writing up a firestorm of passages that belong in three maybe four separate scenes/sequences in the hope that I can stich 'em all together later like a surgeon.  A surgeon on a coffee bender.

Heads I soar, tails crash & burn.

Posted my answer to your editing question in the respective thread.  From time to time, I try to actually be helpful.

Then I do this  :band:  "Her name is Rio, and she dances on the sand...."
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 26, 2007, 11:52:05 PM
 :band:...just like that river twisting through a dusty land...  Yeah, being helpful is good.  I like to post stuff that might help, but I never know what people need, so I just think about the struggles I have and let the agony pour forth.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 26, 2007, 11:57:37 PM
The misery-recruits-company theory... I like it!

 :band: "and when she shines, she really shows you all she can...."

Good grief.  We've really regressed since the They Might Be Giants conversation.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 02:56:23 AM
In the dead of night, the surprising yet much anticipated avatar makes its debut to the sound of...

<cricket... cricket... cricket>
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 27, 2007, 06:21:31 AM
No song can scare Tavern customers away, audal. ;D

(I mean that in a good way!)

:draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 27, 2007, 08:07:22 AM
Aud, great avatar.  Looks just like you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:34:41 AM
Aud, great avatar.  Looks just like you.

Thanks... I think.

Some people are an open book.  I'm more of a closed door.  Or two doors b/c I'm a Gemini.  Two doors that swing.

That didn't sound right.

Um... OK, Do I need a new avatar?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 27, 2007, 10:40:51 AM
i dunno about a new avatar, but i'm beginning to see why you want a secret tunnel!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:02:45 AM
Joan, are you trying to psycho-analyze me through my humble avatar?

Really, it's more simple than that... in a the-answer's-in-the-question kinda way.

I.E. Analysis: Psycho.

But now even I'm wondering what I was thinkin'.  Got deep into writing last night, and somewhere past 1:00AM, I must've decided lucidity was overrated. 

And now I have a late night coffee headache like no other.  Basically, there is a construction site inside my head.

:bonk:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:13:51 AM
Aud has an avatar!
WOOT!
I need the strongest coffee you've got...stayed up way to late last night in a tent with about 10 other girls at a birthday party and woke up at about 4:45 because of the stupid dang rain....
And I'm TIRED!
coffee coffee coffee coffee...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:59:47 AM
So the avatar gets a "Woot?"

That thrills me greatly.  I guess it stays.  For now.  I've opened up the avatar gates and may now change them weekly.  I'm non-committal like that.

I've many flashbacks to waking up in the middle of the night & having a solid inch of rain as the mattress in my tent.  New meaning to waterbed.  Last time was actually in Minnesota.  Jackson, Minnesota.  Skies opened up & nearly washed the tent away.

So anyway, I feel your pain.

I mused that Mel's yo-yo-yo thread had become a popular auxiliary venue for banter & that a cafe was in order.  Then, just like that, cafe!  I'm a minority shareholder.  We're working on a bad poetry stage to promote a silly beatnik vibe.  It's not just good fun, but good QT commerce!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
Yeah, well I'm sticking to this place
Mel, I'll stop by for your sandwiches occasionally tho, just to be a good sport :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 27, 2007, 01:39:38 PM
Hiya! Miss me? I came, I taught, I got a chicken wrap.

I just wasted 15 minutes of the 45 minutes i have before I descend to the pits of doom to do registration. And that was only to read this thread. Don't you feel honored, A-man that this is where I stopped? That's because I really didn't want to THINK too hard. (yuk-yuk)

So...JJ...I LOVE folk music, so there...and furthermore...

I HATE SQUIRRELS. In the Bronx we consider them fuzzy tailed rats.

Note metamorphosis from laid back country girl to angry, traffic-addled city dweller.

But, seriously. Transition smooth so far. If you hear from me later it's good, that means registration is quiet. If you don't, I hope to find a bottle of tequila with my name on it later, coz I'm going to need it.

TTFN, gang!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on August 27, 2007, 01:49:38 PM
Yeesh, as I've said, this place is a jungle.

My little tid-bit for today: I'm really really sore from running/jogging/walking (mostly jogging) 8 miles.  :eek: Most I've ever done.

So what's the difference between the cafe and the bar? The age limit? Cause Chelc and I seem to drift to this side of the street...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 02:33:10 PM
So what's the difference between the cafe and the bar?

They're acoustic & we're plugged in!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 27, 2007, 04:27:03 PM
I ran a lot in High School, too, but we didn't have a track team.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 04:37:03 PM
The track kids in my school are like a flower cult. They are tripped out hippies time travelling from the 60's. I swear. I'll bet the only reason they can run so dang much is because of drugs.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
Chelc, your killer wit seems to have found an extra gear today.  Does fatigue bring out a special kind of loopy or something?

Whatever the case, I look forward to reading your novel, so stop deleting files! ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 04:49:39 PM
But it's fun to delete...it gives me a bit of an exanimate high (that made more sense in my head...)
And you have no idea how truly "loopy" I am when I'm really sleep deprived....well, you should have seen me this morning!
"Loopy" does it no justice.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
I can't bring myself to delete 99% of all writings.  I have notebooks and even journals dating back to -- yup, when I was 16.  Every so often I can flip to a page and think, "Whoa - I wrote that?  I need to write it again!"  But mostly it's all garbage.  Suffice it to say that if my journals are located some 100 years from now after a life as a prosperous novelist, my journals will not be fit for publication.  3,000+ pages of "What the?!?!" It would ruin everything!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 05:04:12 PM
Hahahahahaha.
Alright, here's my flattery for the day, Aud.
A couple days ago I was trying to figure out how phrase a conversation in my MS to have a certain wit and charm and I found myself thinking "how would Audal say this?"
 :rof3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 05:14:04 PM
Well then, looks like flattery will get you somewhere (consult karma count for evidence)

Luckily it was an easy question for you to ask, now that you've decided how Audal is pronounced for all of us!

Thanks, C.  So can I ask how you ended up spinning the phrase?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 05:28:50 PM
Well, it wasn't that great.
I suck at laughable lines...
But it had to do with a character being told to do too many things at once, so he says "the day that I acquire twenty-five more hands, I'll be sure to let you know."
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 05:36:57 PM
Hmmm.  Challenging.

What d'ya think of this:

"The day I acquire twenty more hands, I'm sure all ten of us will let you know."
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 05:40:19 PM
yup. you are the master.
 :bow:
I'm going to have to start scribbling down your sayings and keep 'em next to all those words I write down!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 05:56:59 PM
Watch it, Buster - No plagiarizing!  :wink:

It's all about being able to access (to coin an overused phrase) outside-the-box thinking.  What are the words you'll be using in a sentence?  What do you associate with those words?  Think tangentially.  Twenty hands.  Takes ten people for that.

What if all your character needed was one extra hand?  What can you associate with three hands?  Let your mind relax.  Think about all the possibilities of hands...

Did you get this:

"If I had an extra hand, I'd be a clock."

And so on & so forth.

Language is so close to infinite that its possibilities are a delight.  Adjectives are capable of many meanings.  Most words are fair game for metaphor.  My favorite author of late (Haven Kimmel) excels at this.  Here's an impossibly brilliant & flowing passage about her pet husky from her amazing memoir "A Girl Named Zippy," which by the way, Chelc - you should also add to a pre-UW reading list.  You'll adore it.

Am I allowed to reprint passages? 

Miss Kimmel, I only do this because  :hearts: and I want the world to buy your books!

"Kai's lineage was embarrassingly good.  Either my father won him gambling, or else my parents sold a fourth sibling to buy him, because he was magnificent, and had no rival in Moreland.  His father was black and silver and his mother was snow white, and Kai turned out to be the color of coins falling from a winter sky."


*swoon*

Anyway... Just start teaching yourself to think tangentially.  Eventually you'll spend so much time outside-the-box that you'll find yourself living there.  Everything you write is a building block for the rest of what you'll write. 

Class dismissed.

For now. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 27, 2007, 06:03:19 PM
Anyone over 14 who runs more than a mile for fun is psycho.

We have to run two miles tomorrow for tennis, because one mile plus a mile worth of sprints wasn't enough. And I mean, we survived. One girl ripped her achiles tendon and one girl was out cold. Let's see if we can beat that record, right?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 06:10:48 PM
Tennis?  Yeah, that's on my TV & happily distracting me from finishing up a chapter!

Condolences on your wounded teammate.  You stay strong, Deputy!  And by the way, who you got winning the US Open?  Huh?  Huh?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 27, 2007, 07:33:24 PM
Wow..it's been an interesting day on here. Sorry I can't add to the repartee with my one remaining brain cell.
I was going to ask for a bottle of tequila, but instead how about the house blood transfusion, please?

 :ho:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 08:30:08 PM
One blood transfusion, comin' up!

Would you like an oxygen chaser with that? :yes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 09:52:38 PM
Watch it, Buster - No plagiarizing!  :wink:

It's all about being able to access (to coin an overused phrase) outside-the-box thinking.  What are the words you'll be using in a sentence?  What do you associate with those words?  Think tangentially.  Twenty hands.  Takes ten people for that.

What if all your character needed was one extra hand?  What can you associate with three hands?  Let your mind relax.  Think about all the possibilities of hands...

Did you get this:

"If I had an extra hand, I'd be a clock."

And so on & so forth.

Language is so close to infinite that its possibilities are a delight.  Adjectives are capable of many meanings.  Most words are fair game for metaphor.  My favorite author of late (Haven Kimmel) excels at this.  Here's an impossibly brilliant & flowing passage about her pet husky from her amazing memoir "A Girl Named Zippy," which by the way, Chelc - you should also add to a pre-UW reading list.  You'll adore it.

Am I allowed to reprint passages? 

Miss Kimmel, I only do this because  :hearts: and I want the world to buy your books!

"Kai's lineage was embarrassingly good.  Either my father won him gambling, or else my parents sold a fourth sibling to buy him, because he was magnificent, and had no rival in Moreland.  His father was black and silver and his mother was snow white, and Kai turned out to be the color of coins falling from a winter sky."


*swoon*

Anyway... Just start teaching yourself to think tangentially.  Eventually you'll spend so much time outside-the-box that you'll find yourself living there.  Everything you write is a building block for the rest of what you'll write. 

Class dismissed.

For now. ;D

Nope. I think I'll just have to kidnap you and place you atop the mantel, consulting you when needed. I'll even feed you leftovers! That's my plan of action  ;D ;D ;D
So, what's your address?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 09:57:43 PM
Nope. I think I'll just have to kidnap you and place you atop the mantel, consulting you when needed. I'll even feed you leftovers! That's my plan of action  ;D ;D ;D
So, what's your address?

Sorry, not telling.

Wait - hold on - maybe I will.

Leftovers?  Of what?

I'm intrigued...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:02:13 PM
 :band:Oh, Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande!  Sorry, couldn't help it.  You know, it's getting to the point where I slip into the Tavern, and I feel as though I am among old friends.  Thanks, guys and girls for making this place as such.  I don't even have to sit by the fire because there is already so much warmth in the room!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:09:02 PM
Nope. I think I'll just have to kidnap you and place you atop the mantel, consulting you when needed. I'll even feed you leftovers! That's my plan of action  ;D ;D ;D
So, what's your address?

Sorry, not telling.

Wait - hold on - maybe I will.

Leftovers?  Of what?

I'm intrigued...

Well, first I have to dial in on your nutritional preferences...

We've got pasta puttanesca with a side dish of artichokes, strawberry daiguiris, and for dessert your choice between a peach cobbler and a tiramisu!
 ;D
I win. Now hurry up with the address so I can buy some plane tickets and a body bag to carry you in  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:11:16 PM
Whoa, Chelc!  Have you been possessed by Francis??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:14:33 PM
Wait, Loth!  I say let her run with this. 

See, I've never had a stalker before!  It's touching, in a twisted and :crazy: kinda way.

Throw the artichokes straight into the garbage disposal and I'll consider.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:16:23 PM
Whoa, Chelc!  Have you been possessed by Francis??
I'm not sure...I'm feeling oddly devious tonight...

and okay, artichokes have been dismembered...
But you need your vegetables...*tuning in again*...ah, fried zucchini
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:16:45 PM
Creepy, but fun!  Well, I don't see how Chelc could ever be creepy, though.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:18:42 PM
Creepy, but fun!  Well, I don't see how Chelc could ever be creepy, though.

Oh good.  Yeah, challenge her.  That oughtta' save me!

P.S.  Big fan of deep fried-Z
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:20:29 PM
Creepy, but fun!  Well, I don't see how Chelc could ever be creepy, though.
Well, I'll let you chat with a couple of my friends for an hour and they'll have you overwhelmed with stories of me being "creepy"
*eyes furtively move about the tavern*

and I knew I'd get you with that fried-Z...maybe I'm pushing my luck here, but what about fried eggplant? YUM!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:21:14 PM
Are you a veggie-girl, Chelc? 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:26:55 PM
Why yes, I am. Always was good about eating my broccoli and spinach.  ;D
and peppers...Mmm peppers!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:29:07 PM
Pushed FAR past your luck with eggplant.  Actually not much of a cooked veggie guy.

Time out for me to test drive a quick paragraph ending one of my chapters.  I'd post in X-cerpt files, but I want immediate feedback.  I demand it, even.  I mean it - don't make me go back and recite another poem!

OK, I'm shooting for nostalgia & longing here:

Quote
My present days cannot measure up alongside this great height of my history, so I assemble an escapist insomniac fantasy that will veil the very truth of me.  With the television droning low in the background, I want only to revel once more before Monday comes and my feet become stuck on the inflexible rails of routine.

Real quick - Yea or nay?

P.S.  Peppers Rock!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:29:14 PM
Are you vegetarian, though?  Or do you like a big hunk of meat every now and then.  I MEANT LIKE STEAK!  Geez...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:33:12 PM
Sounds good.  A little overdone, and I have no idea what is going on, but nice.

My present days cannot measure up alongside this great height of my history I don't know what this means here, because it is out of context, right? , so I assemble an escapist insomniac fantasy that will veil the very truth of me.  With the television droning low in the background, I want only to revel in what? once more before Monday comes and my feet become stuckbetter word here.  Locked onto? on the inflexible rails of routine
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:36:19 PM
Aud: you are too superior for me to critique... though with your new found role as a living mantel decoration, I don't think your superiority will matter much as you sit next to the other displays...

Lo: I tried being a vegetarian once, but I found myself so longing for those "big hunks of meat".  :wink:

and peppers DO rock! also love asparagus!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
Sounds good.  A little overdone, and I have no idea what is going on, but nice.

 I don't know what this means here, because it is out of context, right? >> Yeah, she's been waxing nostalgic over a certain moment in her history for the last 4 pages.  It should be clear.

I want only to revel in what? >> Revel bugged me.  She wants to revel in the memory of it, but I don't want to bog down the sentence with excess flowery prose.

my feet become stuckbetter word here.  Locked onto?>> OK, I'll look into something.

THANKS!  K-Point!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:40:21 PM
40 pages on the tavern! wow! Is that record breaking?
Nevermind.
We need to get back on topic...address please?  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
Dude, quit it - I'm not too superior.  I mean thanks for that & all, but quit it! 

Seriously, if we're to have a productive atmosphere with me over the mantle and you feeding me vegetables, it is important we realize that we are equals.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:43:20 PM
Then stop making me laugh so dang much! One of these days I'm gonna cough out my larynx or something...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:47:30 PM
How big is this mantel?  Cuz I'm no Tiny Tim, ya know.  Or are we just talking HEADS here??  *Gasp*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:48:31 PM
 :band:...And the Tavern will rock!  And I say, Rock on!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 10:50:52 PM
Oooooooohhh
You should NOT have suggested that, Lotheus!
You're in for it now!!
 >:D

So how much do guillotines cost?




ah, shoot. I'm starting to scare myself. Sorry!  :emb:

and stop sidetracking already Audal!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 10:53:15 PM
:band:...And the Tavern will rock!  And I say, Rock on!

Van Lotheus?

Poll:
a) Snow Cone?
b) Snowcone?
c) Sno-Cone?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 10:58:00 PM
Snow cone.  Sno-cone is a brand, I think, but it looks silly. 

 :band:Have you seen Chelsea's grades?  Bow bow bow bow bow bow bow
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:00:44 PM
Alright, I think I'm being ignored with here with all this kidnapping and severing stuff...
So I'll use the emoticons I haven't used yet!
 :band: :band: :band: :band:
Strike up the band! Whoa-oh,, the conductor is beckoning
come congregation let's sing it like you mean it, no
don't you get it, don't you get it, now don't you move...
just stay where I can see you
DOUSE THE LIGHTS!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:04:02 PM
I also had answer (a.) - Thanks.

But you lost me on the Chelsea's Grades song...

And Chelsea's song, too... I'm like  :shrug:

Sidetracking?  Me?  I would never thing to stoop to such a...

Man am I thirsty!  Or maybe hungry?  Which one would the snow cone satisfy?

So now I've got pretty prose and Snow Cones.

Oh yeah, all the right ingredients to land representation!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:06:54 PM
my song was from Panic! at the Disco. only the best cd to listen to while writing...
not to mention Ryan Ross is a GOD!
 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 11:09:40 PM
Sorry, that was a continuation of The Cradle will Rock by Van Halen, back in the day when David Lee Roth was a rock GOD and not some freaked out, bleached blond, has been loser.  Sad
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:16:45 PM
Damn - I can't believe I got off the Van Halen bus after your first line.

The guitar into to Mean Streets remains one of the BEST... RIFFS... EVER.

PATDisco... Oh well.  At least I've heard of them.  And given my potential relocation to a Wisconsin wall mount, I'm sure I'll soon be more familiar with their work.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:21:34 PM
Oh yes you will
 >:D >:D >:D
Would you like to sit next to flower vase or the christmas photos?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 11:22:53 PM
I just hope I look life-like.  I want blue eyes, though, okay? 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:25:01 PM
blue eyes? sure.

I have yet to decide if your whole bodies will be needed...heads sound like they would work. But I still need a guillotine!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 27, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
Ummmm...  Check France.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:32:11 PM
Would you like to sit next to flower vase or the christmas photos?

I'll go with the Xmas photos so I can make scary gnarly faces in your genreal direction while you're out.

Most flowers make me sneeze.  Put me there and I will find a way to escape. 

I'll be on the news... "Today the head of an unknown man was seen bouncing madly west on I-90.  Said one witness to this reporter, 'Damn head-lookin-thing was like that there Q-Bert video game my kid used to play back in the 80's!'" 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:34:38 PM
Remember...wit needs to be contained tonight. There is a larynx on the floor. You wouldn't want me laughing out my esophagus as well, would you?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 27, 2007, 11:50:55 PM
When all my cylindars are clicking, I can be tough to contain.

I need to reboot my PC.  It's about to seize up and... uh oh...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:53:40 PM
you're leaving?
Say it isn't so!
I was having such a wonderful time being  :crazy: and >:D and  :happy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 27, 2007, 11:56:53 PM
Ah, well it looks like all you normal people have gone to nighty nigh.
So Iill just hand out here...
alone...
in the tavern...
with...
Gollum?
 :eek:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
Sorry, Chelc.  Got busy.  Have a good night and see you tomorrow.  From your mantel.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 12:11:58 AM
Sorry, Chelc.  Got busy.  Have a good night and see you tomorrow.  From your mantel.

BAAAA-HA-HA-HA!!!

Let me know how the first day atop the mantel goes.  I like to hear first hand account of a town/fireplace before I move there!

My PC:  It's in rough shape.  Sometimes I think I'd be better off if I rigged a Smith-Corona up to an Atari 2600.

Looks like I didn't miss much, though.  Chelc seemed very entertained by all of her selves in our brief absence.

Can you imagine the mess we'd have made of the boards tonight were it not for the banter dumps that are the Tavern & now the Cafe?  Poor Deputy Lane's gonna have a whole lotta conversational debris to sweep off her floor tomorrow morn'.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 09:55:06 AM
There has been a lot of activity in the cafe and tavern, but not much going on over at x-cerpts.  We need to stay on the writing wagon, that is why I have decided to declare

PROHIBITION

No posting in the tavern or cafe until at least 3 members post x-cerprts.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 02:20:21 PM
Prohibition is lifted.   :wine:   Let the festivities resume.   :p2:

Extra helpings of karma for Miss Java, Audal, and elknutswife for running the moonshine (or posting in x-cerpts.)  Well done. :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 02:20:36 PM
YES!

Ladies & Gentlemen, Welcome to the Tavern's 1st Ever...

GRAND RE-OPENING PARTY!!!

Free beverages & appetizers to Miss Java & Elkette for giving us the opportunity to resume wasting time!  However, let their work be a lesson to all of us (except for me, of course - 'cause I helped us re-open ;D), the Tavern and the Cafe next door are a privilege we must earn through our dedication to writing, rewriting, rewriting some more, and of course, querying.

Now then, commence partying! :duet: :p2: :p1: :p2: :duet:

 :band: > don't you know that you are a shooting star....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 02:26:36 PM
yeah, well, I think I about wiped myelf out yesterday. Something had me possessed. Sorry!
 :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 03:02:38 PM
Oh, stuff it with the apology!  You were great fun as always. 

Besides, we core Tavern degenerates encourage demonic possession.  I think it is a testament to the site itself that one of your alternate personalities felt comfortable enough here to come out & play.

And no, you still can't have my address. :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 03:25:23 PM
I got me some KarMa!  I got me some KarMa!   Wahoo!  Ooo, free appetizers and beverages,  hmmm, whatta got with chocolate?  I'm still on a bender from last night.  Load me up!!!!  Although, I must say, today is much better.  House is relatively clean, kids are reasonably tame, and not an 8 legged creature in sight.  I even got some editing done (hence the Xcerpt post - I really need to stop adding to the manuscript, which is supposedly done by the way.  It's going to end up 900 pages if I don't stop soon)   ;D

 :band:  Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the [boys]....!

I make up my own words sometimes   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 03:32:16 PM
Elkette, your seamless integration into the QT wildlife has been truly impressive... the X-cerpt, the critiques, the band punctuating yet another excellent song choice... Good show.

Then again, being a bonafide elkette, you had a leg on on being a wildlife member, didn't you?

OK, then... We've got our special double triple chocolate milkshakes - and there's one with your name on it.  Yes, that does equal the caloric throttle of six milkshakes in one.  Unfortunately, we have not yet founded the QT Fitness Club, so you're on your own after consumption!
Title: Re: The Quillkeeper's Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 03:54:09 PM
Ooo, yummy, pass it over!  I will say that I do adapt rather quickly, but I am really a wildlife member by marriage (my husband being the elknut)  ;D  I have enjoyed my time on the wild side though  >:D  

I'm rather ecletic (sorry I know I spelled that wrong!) in my music choices.  I was just listening to Chopin and now my IPod is on Justin Timberlake.  I think something from the Lord of the Dance soundtrack is next.  Either that or Metallica   ;D  

Oops, nope,    :band:   It's the Eye of the Tiger, it's the thrill of the fight!  Rising up to the challenge of our rival!

As for the QT Fitness Center, it might not be a bad idea.  Writing certainly isn't conducive to weight loss (as I brush the Oreo crumbs from my keyboard)   :) ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 04:17:46 PM
<continuing>

 :band: And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us allllllllll in the eyyyyyyyyyye <warning: high note issues>
of the tiger


Oh, please!  Tell me after that great singin' I'm not gonna be the first to use:

 :kneel:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 04:33:46 PM
    :o            ooo, nice.  I'm in awe at your singing awesomeness!  You definitely deserve another one!

 :kneel:

Now, I know this question has been brought up before, but mine is different, I promise.  I know how to get the curly quotes to change to straight quotes when typing new stuff, but is there a way to change a huge chunk of text that for some reason has a strange mixture of the two (it didn't work when I selected it and tried to autoformat)   Please don't tell me I have to go through all 330 pages and individually check and change each quotation mark mistake.  Next question, if I leave it do you think anyone will notice?   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 04:52:39 PM
elky, are you talking about in Word?  I hate Word, just for reasons like this. I experimented and tried to do a search-replace for the curly quotes, but it didn't work.  That was my best guess.  I also went through the menu options but didn't see anything there that would work either.  Sorry.  Anyone else have any ideas?

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 05:11:11 PM
Ooooh... Watch the most computer illiterate person on here take a shot at answering this!

I read somewhere that when cutting & pasting a query from word to email, you can "wash out" all the curly quote & italicized words by transferring the word document to a notepad file and then from notepad back to word.  I would guess that the notepad would not be able to handle the bulk of an entire 330 pages, but perhaps you could section off the sequences in question?

If this makes no sense whatsoever, I apologize.  But this info was tucked deep in a mental closet, so I thought I'd toss it out there and see if anyone might be able to expand on my wacky little theory.

And your second question... Yeah, unfortunately I do think some might notice if your manuscript was a mish-mash of two kinds of quotation marks.  Best be safe in your audition, no?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 05:16:40 PM
yeah that is what I was afraid of   :)  I'll try the notepad thing and see if that works, although it would probably take just as much time to just do them all one at a time.  It isn't too jarring going from one to the other (it took me around 20 edits to notice! - although I did write the thing so I miss a lot)  but there are several instances where a quote starts with a curly and ends with a straight and vice versa.  Weird.  Not sure how that happened but it's a pain I tell ya!   :rant:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 05:24:57 PM
I will send you into battle (heretofore known as The Quotation Mark Quarrel) with another double-triple chocolate milkshake. 

This brings you to a grand total of 12.  Plus, you have the eye of the tiger.  I see no reason to think that you won't prevail because of these two factors!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 05:38:43 PM
I accept your challenge, oh mighty one, and I vow to return in 10 years time (cause that is how long it will take me to change all these dumb things) stronger, smarter (from now on I check this as I'm writing) and with a   :moom:  the size of Wisconsin (due to all those milkshakes - have you ever tried pumpkin - yum!)

I am off to fight in the fearsome Quotation Mark Quarrel!  If you don't hear from me in a few years, I've probably been quoted to death!  (Hmmm, can I just fight on the weekends, it doesn't sound like much fun for a full time gig)   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 05:51:22 PM
<continuing>

 :band: And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us allllllllll in the eyyyyyyyyyye <warning: high note issues>
of the tiger


Oh, please!  Tell me after that great singin' I'm not gonna be the first to use:

 :kneel:

I LOVE EYE OF THE TIGER!! 'cept you forgot the beginning of that verse!
it's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight, rising up to the challenge of our rivals...
and now we can continue onto the line you started with  ;D

and a big WOW to this:
 :kneel:
reminds me a bit of you Aud...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 06:04:36 PM
Yeah, you were scary, Chelc.  Tomorrow is the first day of school for my kids, so I will be back at it hardcore, but most of this posting is done from work, so I'm not supposed to be writing anyway.  I'm supposed to be doing my job!! :rof2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:09:33 PM
You're supposed to be doing your job? You're at work now? Shame shame  :wink:
Ya know, I wonder if I'll be able to sneak on here during school...we have all the obvious sites blocked, like myspace, but they don't know about Qt...hehehehehhe.
I believe I have reason to use this:
 :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:14:24 PM
Actually... Get this, Chelc - Elkette started Eye Of The Tiger!  It's true.  At that moment she earned her tavern stripes.  Or tiger stripes.  Wait, do tigers stalk elk?

Anyway, I was just continuing off of her lead.  No one would dare ignore the beginning of the chorus.

I'm so relieved Prohibition was lifted.  I don't know if I could've quit cold turkey.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:18:04 PM
Did she? Well I missed that.
Whoops!
And yes, adios to prohibitation! I promise to never participate in provoking one again  :angel:
I'm glad we have a rolling eyes smiley now, btw! I think it'll be mine!
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 28, 2007, 06:21:21 PM
 :draw:

Mine's cooler.

;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 06:24:59 PM
I think my new tiger stripes protect me from those nasty stalking spiders - I mean tigers.  I blend in now.  Ah, better watch out!!!   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 06:28:36 PM
I read somewhere that when cutting & pasting a query from word to email, you can "wash out" all the curly quote & italicized words by transferring the word document to a notepad file and then from notepad back to word.  I would guess that the notepad would not be able to handle the bulk of an entire 330 pages, but perhaps you could section off the sequences in question?

Sorry audal, this doesn't work either.  It works when going to email, but when you try to paste it back into Word the curlys come back (at least they always have for me.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:30:20 PM
I wanted a smiley holding up a lighter to reflect the audience's overall sentiment after my stellar Eye Of The Tiger, but all I could find was  :flame:

Or was that the sentiment?

 :band: I got somethin' to say...
It's better to burn out
than fade awayyyyy....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 06:33:27 PM
 :band:Rise up, gather 'round, rock this place to the ground...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:35:17 PM
 :band: Burn it up, let's go for broke
Watch the night go up in smoke
Rock on...
ROCK ON!


Tuesdays must be hair metal night. :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 06:37:22 PM
Whatcha really need is a barrel of earplugs for all the drunk karaoke singers in this place. Sheesh.
I'm looking for the wine and cheese bar and a nice quiet conversation.

shhhh...let's see if anyone even notices I'm here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:38:48 PM
shhhh...let's see if anyone even notices I'm here.

Don't be silly, JW!

Now would ya mind steppin' aside - I'm trying to watch Def Leppard!

<kidding>

Tequila, you say?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on August 28, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
Tequila!

**hums Tequila**
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 06:40:07 PM
I said blood transfusion but I see a few necks around here that might be appetizing.  :naughty:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:40:59 PM
:draw:

Mine's cooler.

;D
yeah, well
 :rolleyes:

hair metal night you say? Well, then I must put an end to it...
 :band:
I'm headin' down the Atlanta highwaaaay
lookin' for the looooovveee getawaaaayy
headin' for the looovvee getawaaayyy...
I got me a car, it's as big as a whale and we're headin' on down to the loveshack
I got me a Chrysler, it sits about 20, so come on! And bring your jukebox money!
The love shack is a little love place where we can get togethheeerrrr!
Love shack bbaaabbbyyy!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:44:09 PM
B-52s!  Ha!  Reminds me of an old MTV gag they had... Goes something like:

Q: What was the name of the supergroup formed when the B-52s, U2 and UB40 joined forces and became a single band?

A:  BuBu94

 :rolf: :rolf: :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 06:48:32 PM
Okay..now I'm sneaking out, unnoticed.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:50:03 PM
Haha.
I love B-52's! Fav is Channel Z!
 ;D ;D
Getting nothing but static, getting nothing but static
Static in my attic from Channel Z
Getting nothing but static, getting nothing but static.
Static in my attic from Channel ZZZZZ!!

I don't know, I feel like something's happening
Something good is happenin'!
I feel love has got to come on, and I want it
Something big and lovely
I want the world to change for me! Gotta get away
Away from Zzzzzz
Living on the edge of Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:50:38 PM
Come back justwrite!!
Come back!
 :( :( :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 06:51:26 PM
See? Apparently I'm not cool enough for this place anymore. Maybe I shouold start my own wine bar or something for the uncool (whine bar?).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 06:52:48 PM
Come back justwrite!!
Come back!
 :( :( :(

Yeah!  What she said!  And furthermore, did you not notice me noticing you?!

Hmmmph.

I need a road map to follow these posts.  I think I just typed something about a fireplace mantel into my WIP.  Not real bright.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 06:57:43 PM
JW!  How are you this fine evening?  My day went much better than yesterday (except for the quotation mark quarrel)   :)  How is your day going?  Do you need more M&Ms, cause I found another stash   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 06:58:33 PM
I think I just typed something about a fireplace mantel into my WIP.  Not real bright.
HaHA!
I sooo win!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 06:59:19 PM
If you wanna get noticed you gotta MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:12:40 PM
Quote
JW!  How are you this fine evening?  My day went much better than yesterday (except for the quotation mark quarrel)     How is your day going?  Do you need more M&Ms, cause I found another stash   

Hey, let's go sit in a booth and have some wine (whine?)! I'm much better today too. I had a major re-entry yesterday from rural tranquility to THE BRONX. But no one here cared much....boo-hooo-hooo. As my friend said, I have the burn marks to prove it. I was cranky last night, but now I'm just plain fiesty. Those yahoos can sing and yowl, all they want. I'm talking to think nice friend of mine and then I will quietly visit my poor neglected WIP.

HOOOT! HONK! YO! HEY!!!! move outta my way...eh, just because I 'm short ya big lug, coming through to the bar..

okay..how was that..if you still ignore me I'm going to open my own little coffee bar bakery that plays indie rock and bans anyone who utters a single lyric of that nasty 80s stuff.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 07:14:37 PM
Nice noises.  I see you now!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 07:15:26 PM
HOOOT! HONK! YO!

Hi, welcome to the Quillkeepers' Tavern, may I help you?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 07:18:21 PM
I'll take your place JW, standing here, scared in the corner  :eek:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:18:51 PM
I didn't even finish posting.

But YES. I'd like a nice cold glass of Flattery will get you everywhere with an side order of Spam, please. But as I recall the popular kids never have to shout to get noticed. Sniff. It's like high school all over again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:19:07 PM
I accept your challenge, oh mighty one, and I vow to return in 10 years time (cause that is how long it will take me to change all these dumb things) stronger, smarter (from now on I check this as I'm writing)

ok, silly question:  if the curly quotes are everywhere, why not change the noncurlies?  sounds like it'd be easier.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 07:20:16 PM
I'd like a nice cold glass of Flattery will get you everywhere with an side order of Spam, please. But as I recall the popular kids never have to shout to get noticed. Sniff. It's like high school all over again.

Excellent choice.  Here ya go: a nice glass of gee-your-hair-smells-terrific!

And some Spam.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:20:51 PM
shhhh...let's see if anyone even notices I'm here.

Don't be silly, JW!

Now would ya mind steppin' aside - I'm trying to watch Def Leppard!

nothing like a one-armed drummer, I always say....
hey, JW, ever hear of the song 'Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off'?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 07:21:44 PM
Hey, sounds good, grab us a booth and I'll break out my stash (we really need some M&M smilies!) to go with your wine (whine)   ;)  So what's new today?  I've been meaning to work on my WIP for days now, but I keep finding problems with the "finished" one.  *sigh*  will it never end?   :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 07:25:07 PM
Joan,

I probably will, because as you said, it would be easier.  My concern though, is that I read on one of these posts that when you try to transfer these files through some programs, the curlies don't come out right and most people prefer the straight ones.  However, I think I'll stick with the curlies, and in the future make sure the straight ones are used.   ;D

JW:  save my seat in the booth.  I have to take a quick bathroom break and get the kids out of the tub.  Be right back!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:26:18 PM
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ever hear of the song 'Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off'?
No, I don't believe I have.
If it's from the 80s that may be why. I'm going to start a bar brawl, coz I'm a feelin' feisty and I'm from the BRONX and I'm in the mood to see some Spam flung around!

80's music is for sissies! >:D

Hey Loth, thanks for making me realize the point size on here is limitless. A graphic designers dream. I can design my own bar brawl!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:27:39 PM

Hey Loth, thanks for making me realize the point size on here is limitless. A graphic designers dream. I can design my own bar brawl!

I wait with a worm on my tongue...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:30:43 PM

80's music is for sissies! >:D

this is country music!  no sissies allowed!

She said, "I'm goin out with my girlfriends..Margaritas at the Holiday Inn." Lord have mercy, my only thought, was tequila
makes her clothes fall off.

I told her put an extra layer on, I know what happens when she drink Patron. Her closets missing half the things she bought,
yeah tequila makes her clothes fall off.

She'll start by kicking outta her shoes, lose an earring in her drink. Leave her jacket in the bathroom stall, drop a
contact down the sink.

Them panty-hose ain't gonna last to long, if the DJ puts BonJovi on. She might come home in a table cloth, yeah tequila
makes her clothes fall off. (Whoa-Ho)

She can handle any champaigne brunch, a bridal shower with bacardi punch, jello shooters full of smirnoff, but tequila makes her clothes fall off.

She'll start by kicking outta her shoes, lose an earring in her drink. Leave her jacket in the bathroom stall, drop a
contact down the sink.

She don't mean nothing, she's just having fun, tomorrow she'll say, "Oh what have I done?" Her friends will joke about the
stuff she lost, yeah tequila makes her clothes fall off, oh tequila makes her clothes off..Oh tequila makes her clothes fall
off
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:30:57 PM
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JW:  save my seat in the booth.  I have to take a quick bathroom break and get the kids out of the tub.  Be right back!

You got it, Elkie. I'll just let the spam fly and we can have a nice chit chat. I do have to eat my real dinner It is 8:30 NY time and I haven't eaten since breakfast at 9:30 AM..I ordered in eggplant rollatini. Much better than spam. Ahhh..ordering in dinner for one while the kids and hubby are elsewhere is one of the rare joys of citylife.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
No 80's music, eh?
Well, I don't know what decade this is from but I can't get it outta my head!
Tonight shall be ballad night...
Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us all feelin' alright
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:32:55 PM
1975, I believe... Mr. Joel was quite the fella... I was in catholic school when 'only the good die young' came out - it was a back-o'the-bus favorite....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:37:14 PM
Billy Joels's first hit!
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Sing us a song, you're the piano man
Sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us all feelin' alright

Okay..NOW we're talking...

Quote
I was in catholic school when 'only the good die young' came out - it was a back-o'the-bus favorite....
Come out, Virginia, don't make me wait,
You Catholic girls start much too late,
sooner or later, it comes down to fate.
I might as well be the one.
Darling ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG.


Yeah...not a Catholic girl, so it didn't apply to me! But I dated one or two of those Catholic School bad boys. Bats out of hell, they were when they hit the public high school.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 07:38:47 PM
I'm baaack!   Hey I just made full member!   :clap:   What's my prize?   JW, how did the spam flinging go?  Hit anyone   ;D  K, dumb question, how do you add an avatar?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:39:48 PM
the stained glass window you're hiding behind
never lets in the sun....
darlin' only the good die young


oh, the wit.  billy may be as ugly as sin, but he knew his way into a good girl's heart!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:40:37 PM
I dunno if they flung much spam. JJ sang some great country and Chelc crooned a Billy Joel song. Much better. Save me a seat..gotta go eats. Jeez..I really want to write in a bit.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
Billy Joel is better for you JW?
How about some janice joplin then!!
 >:D
Or something...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:44:26 PM
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the stained glass window you're hiding behind
never lets in the sun....
darlin' only the good die young

They showed you a temple and told you to pray...(do you remember the rest, JJ?)

A few years ago i saw Movin' Out on Broadway. That was great! All Billy Joel songs and a live band. Yes, he's ugly and so is Elton John (who plays for the other team, of course). Who cares? Elton sang the sound track to my teenager years.

Okay...not that I made a ruckus and smeared the floor with spam, I'll leave for a bit. You mean can come out from under the tables. The old hussy has left the bar.

Chelc, Janis Joplin is cool, 'cept, she was dead before I graduated elementary school. I am that sad variety of leftover hippie girl who was too young for Woodstock. Missed all the good stuff. Read about it mainly.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:46:13 PM
Billy Joel is better for you JW?
How about some janice joplin then!!
 >:D
Or something...

ohhhh, janis???  ohhhh....speechless.  amazing woman.  simply amazing.  do yourself a favor and rent Dick Cavett's show with her (and with Sly Stone)... when the woman performed, sh gave her all, and then some of the all she had left over from a few previous lives....


Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends.
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:48:12 PM

They showed you a temple and told you to pray...(do you remember the rest, JJ?)


remember the rest?  it was one of maybe 3 good memories of my entire high school experience!  heck yeah, i remember the rest.

gotta get 'The Stranger' on CD for the iPod, now that I think of it...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 07:49:21 PM
okay..JJ..one last one..my stomach is rumbling so loud I'm not sure I'll hear it.

I love Me and Bobby MaGee.

Busted flat in Baton Rouge, waiting for a train. I was feelin' near as faded as my jeans...

My eggplant is calling. See yins later (as they say in Pittsburgh, the land of my alma-mater).

ps..notice how the men all fled the bar when we got loud?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:50:22 PM
bon appetit JW!  sleep well and write better!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 28, 2007, 07:53:21 PM
I think I'm going to check out for awhile also.  The kids are pretty well behaved tonight so I am going to attempt to get some work done.  Ambitious I know, but I gotta do it sometime   ;D 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 28, 2007, 07:55:59 PM

ps..notice how the men all fled the bar when we got loud?

i figured the prospect of clothes falling off the women would've kept 'em hanging on for a bit....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 08:31:54 PM
The single silliest stat available on the QT Stats board:

This is a shocker.

Exactly three weeks ago today, there were exactly zero total posts.

None.  All day.

And now we're all :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :offtop: :offtop: :stupid: :censored: :hijack: :blah: :blah: :hijack: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :band: :band: :whistle:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
Wow, the tavern's been open for 3 weeks already?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 08:43:00 PM
Wow, the tavern's been open for 3 weeks already?

Whoa... Nope, the Tavern's been open all of 12 days.  seems longer, no?

The stat I was referring to dealt with every board & every thread.  No one posted anything anywhere.  CRAZY!

<reprise>

 :band: ...but that's how it goes
millions of people, living as foes...


Yep, that one never gets old.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 28, 2007, 08:48:38 PM
Oooohh...gotcha  :wink:

I have no idea what y'all old people are singing...so here's a new tune!

It could be ten, but then again, I can't remember half an hour since a quarter to four.
Throw on your clothes, the second side of Surfer Rosa, and you leave me with my jaw on the floor.
Just when you think you're in control,
just when you think you've got a hold,
just when you get on a roll,
here it goes, here it goes, here it goes again.
Oh, here it goes again.
I should have known,
should have known,
should have known again,
but here it goes again.
Oh, here it goes again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 08:54:55 PM

Exactly three weeks ago today, there were exactly zero total posts.


Audal, are you keeping records or what?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 09:35:10 PM

Audal, are you keeping records or what?
[/quote]

Funny. 

No, but your site is!  Would you like me to point out some of the many fine Forum features ;D

War Games flashback:  The computer is playing itself...

What the heck is Chelc singin' now?!

Quiet tavern.  I think we ran ourselves into the ground once prohibition was lifted.

And --sigh--, things moved so fast that no one spotted my post about having finished a chapter last night --sniffle-- and stopped to  :toast: for me :'(

OK I'm over it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 09:44:08 PM
Whew!  I shouldn't have made my font so big.  It was so heavy, I wore myself out typing with it!!  Things have slowed a bit I see.  I guess that's not a bad thing.  Cheers, Audal.  Nice work. :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 28, 2007, 09:46:36 PM

80's music is for sissies! >:D



Wow!  Such spite!  You know, considering how much you like Karma, I thought you would at least appreciate this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Bp6KMyrYs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Bp6KMyrYs)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 09:48:53 PM
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And --sigh--, things moved so fast that no one spotted my post about having finished a chapter last night --sniffle-- and stopped to

Aww...poor baby...yay! Good on ya...since I trashed your tavern and dissed your favorite music, I owe ya that, at least. I'm jealous...I've written NADA for two days.

I should right now...should write NOW. must. write. now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 09:51:57 PM
HI JAVA!!!! :java:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 28, 2007, 09:52:37 PM
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80's music is for sissies!  



Wow!  Such spite!  You know, considering how much you like Karma, I thought you would at least appreciate this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Bp6KMyrYs

Ahhhhhh! I'm going to have nightmares about Boy George trying to feed my Spam tonight! It's inevitable one of us is going to dream about this Tavern as if it's an actual place. If someone does, I want to know about it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
Would you like me to point out some of the many fine Forum features ;D

Yes please, because I don't see it.  And congrats on finishing a chapter.  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 28, 2007, 09:54:02 PM
HI JAVA!!!! :java:

Hey there Lotheus.   :wink3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 28, 2007, 10:11:30 PM
I'm told this is the place to go for a stiff drink.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 10:11:52 PM


Yes please, because I don't see it.  And congrats on finishing a chapter.  :clap:



For real?

Wow - I've REALLY spent far too much time on this site!

OK, click the 'more stats' line toward the bottom of the main forum page.  Then at the bottom (Forum History), click the + symbol next to August.  Daily stats will load & show up beneath AUGUST.

I'm like proud and humiliated all at once ;D

And thanks for the completed chapter props, y'all!  Round o' drinks on The 'Keep!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
I'm told this is the place to go for a stiff drink.

Any suggestions?

You name it, this place serves it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 28, 2007, 10:17:48 PM
Well I'll be.  I didn't know those stats were even there.  Those are interesting.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 28, 2007, 10:22:17 PM
I heard about this drink from a friend of mine who just came back from the Savannah area.  Our boss told him about it, saying the drink was crazy good. 

It's a 'Call a Cab.'  Because after you have it, that's what you need to do.  Something like 180-190 proof?  Yeah, that's the kindof mood tonight invokes. ;)

Tomorrow though, that's for major work.  Major major work.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 28, 2007, 10:28:59 PM
Call a Cab.   ;D  I'll have to remember that!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 28, 2007, 10:41:15 PM
Well I'll be.  I didn't know those stats were even there.  Those are interesting.

I gave Chelc a hard time when I informed her that posting decreased by about 30% during her days with Dad.

Oh... and as luck would have it, Leg, we have an entire case of call-a-cab.  It's located in the back - right in front of our case of call-an-ambulance.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 28, 2007, 11:01:39 PM
Well I'll be.  I didn't know those stats were even there.  Those are interesting.

I gave Chelc a hard time when I informed her that posting decreased by about 30% during her days with Dad.

Oh... and as luck would have it, Leg, we have an entire case of call-a-cab.  It's located in the back - right in front of our case of call-an-ambulance.


 :eek:

ooooOOOOOOooohh

  :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 12:49:42 PM
Wow, am I the first one in here today?  I think I am spending way too much time in here.  My poor WIP is starting to wither away.  Okay, and what is up with the %$#*^@ spiders and my front door!!  There was another one there, I hosed him down, and 15 minutes later he was back.  So I pulverized him  >:D >:D >:D
Hey, he had his chance!

I am please to report that I have returned from the Great Quotation Mark Quarrel triumphant and only mildly scathed!!!   :clap:  Luckily there was only a 100 page or so section that was messed up.  It was so weird.  There would be 5 or 6 pages with quotations and apostrophes just arbitraily curly or straight, and then 10 to 20 pages with no problems, and then it would start again.  And it was only from about page 180 to 260 in my manuscript.  What is up with that?  Well, to all quotes and apostrophes I say    :wag:  :ride:   :wag:

Because I have the   :band:    Eye of the Tiger
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 29, 2007, 12:56:20 PM
 :award: and the winner of the Great Quotation Mark Quarrel of 2007 goes to...

<opens envelope>

ELKETTE!

Now then... Moving onto the The Great Spider Squabble...  :box:

Go get 'em, Tiger.  Elk.  Whatever, take 'em down!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 01:01:39 PM
Well, I think Eye of the Tiger should be the Tavern's official song...
and no one is going to answer my question are they?  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 29, 2007, 01:03:47 PM
Dude. 

You.  Must.  Chill.

Look - I already answered your question! 

geez, have you no faith in me?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 01:04:51 PM
I'm here.  Just hanging around, nursing something a little less alcoholic this morning.  (Apparently, even virtual drinks leave a morning after effect).

Today is the great Agent research day, and Query Retooling. 

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 01:06:26 PM
Dude. 

You.  Must.  Chill.

Look - I already answered your question! 

geez, have you no faith in me?
okay okay okay!
now go back to that thread and answer my new post.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 01:17:06 PM
Good luck, Legion!   :clap:  I must take a bow now   Ah, thank you, thank you     :celeb: :celeb:   (forgive my adlib!)

 :band:  I am the champion, I am the champion, No time for losers, cause I am the champion, of the quote quarrel! 

K, I'm off to the store for a minute.  Let me just say  "Death to spiders everywhere!"  Well, that's kinda harsh.  How about  "Death to spiders at my house!!!"   :box:   >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 01:30:39 PM
Make sure you pick up extra strength RAID for those spiders.

Just hope they don't mutate into deadly Arachnaphobia spiders in the meantime.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 01:34:43 PM

K, I'm off to the store for a minute.  Let me just say  "Death to spiders everywhere!"  Well, that's kinda harsh.  How about  "Death to spiders at my house!!!"   :box:   >:D
You can add MY house into that as well! And not just spiders, but get rid of those annoying asian beatle things...anyone else have that infestation problem? They are these annoying lady bug looking things here is WI that leave an awful stench when you kill them. EW!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 01:57:00 PM
get rid of those annoying asian beatle things...

that wasn't a gratuitous yoko slam, was it??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 29, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
get rid of those annoying asian beatle things...

that wasn't a gratuitous yoko slam, was it??

Oh man.  Joan, on a 1-10 Funny-meter, that was a 15.  I'm speechless, so I'll just go like this> :bow:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 02:23:14 PM
 :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 02:39:01 PM
well, thanks!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 29, 2007, 03:07:58 PM
 :rof2:  Give that girl some karma.  Or better yet Instant Karma...


 :band: >Instant Karma's gonna get you.  Gonna knock you right on the head
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 29, 2007, 03:42:00 PM
:rof2:  Give that girl some karma.  Or better yet Instant Karma...

NICE!

Got to admit, these Beatles gags are  :band: gettin' better, a little better, all the time...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 04:15:14 PM
bettah, bettah, behhhhhhh-tahhhhhhh
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 04:48:32 PM
No picking on the beatles  >:(
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
see how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly, I'm crying.
sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
man, you been a naughty boy, and let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'JOOB!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 05:07:52 PM
Man, it's like looking through a glass onion in here...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 29, 2007, 05:25:49 PM
QT CLASSIFIEDS

HELP WANTED:

Bartender needed for Wednesday day/night shift at the world-renowned Quillkeepers' Tavern.  Head bartender is apparently seeing other taverns, which could be construed as cheating.  Something to do with joining his New England pals at a seaside watering hole (free plug for my hotspot -- should any of all y'all visit, I'll be takin' you here: http://www.venicewhaler.com/ (http://www.venicewhaler.com/)) for tonight's Red Sox/Yankees tussle.

All applicants welcome.  Experience not necessary.

For emergencies and other assorted riff-raff-is-gettin'-outta-hand-moments, please contact Deputy Lane next door at The Yo-Yo Cafe.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
Ya know, I just put that together.  You're a Bosox fan living in CA??  Man, you must be majorly screwed up!!  And I say that with all the love a man can show another man while still being heterosexual.  Again, not that there's anything wrong with that...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 05:45:38 PM
Ya know, I just put that together.  You're a Bosox fan living in CA??  Man, you must be majorly screwed up!!  And I say that with all the love a man can show another man while still being heterosexual.  Again, not that there's anything wrong with that...

There's nothing wrong with being heterosexual?  Man, my Queer As Folk marathons are really skewing my perspective! :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 05:47:35 PM
Yeah.  What did you think I meant, gay?  I would never offend that lobby! 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 05:57:57 PM
as long as we keep the foot-tapping to a minimum!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 05:59:10 PM
Okay, that I don't get...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 06:01:15 PM
Whewiee...stopping in for a quickie.

Oh...just one thing...BOO, RED SOX! (notice the Yankees blue).

I have no idea who's playing who. All I know is I's don't like them Red Sox. We have Johnny Damon!  :wag: :wag: :wag:

Okay..i know that was kind of mean. It's the only thing I' don't like about you Audal!

And JJ, you win, funniest line of all the posts I missed award for this one:

Quote
that wasn't a gratuitous yoko slam, was it??
First prize: i karma point.

Patrick wins second prize for the Instant Karma line. Very subtle. smooth.

Okay..let's see..Hi Chelc! You seem a bit frazzled. Back to school jitters? Hi Elk...just kill the poison ones. Remember, spiders are our eight-legged friends...that is until one crawls into my bed and then it's public enemy number one. Hi Lege, nice to see you at the bar.

Okay..dat's all. Had a good day until I had to drive with my kids in my 17 year old Volvo up from the Bronx. Getting rid of it soon..Just hope it survives until then. My students are trés cool this semester. Should make things fun.


the JW report
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 06:05:44 PM
Well, you can just skim right over me.  See if I care. :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 06:21:55 PM
Hey there JW!  Unfortunately, I can't tell the difference between poisonous or not, and I'm feeling a little empowered by my whamping session this afternoon with Mr. Eight-Legged Freak!  So I'm afraid I'm just going to have to pull one of these babies    :draw:  Watch out!  There's no stopping me now!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 29, 2007, 06:23:01 PM
Had a good day until I had to drive with my kids in my 17 year old Volvo up from the Bronx. Getting rid of it soon..

Getting rid of the kid or the Volvo?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 06:59:44 PM
Get rid of 'em both!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 07:07:33 PM
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Well, you can just skim right over me.  See if I care.

I'm sorry. Loth! I was going to comment on your lovely Mickey ears, but then got distracted.

Let's see...16 year old son, 17 year old Volvo. Both cost a lot of money. Both give me a lot of trouble. See, the thing is someone might actually pay a few dollars for the Volvo. I'd probably have to pay someone to take the kid. So I guess I'll ditch the Volvo first and just wait for him to turn 18. Sound logical. Unless one of you wants to make an offer.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 07:12:27 PM
Okay..let's see..Hi Chelc! You seem a bit frazzled. Back to school jitters?
Do I really? That obvious?
I'm just...blech
I want school to start...no I need it to! I'm tired of being a couch potatoe! I need ACTIVITY!!!!!!!!!!
 :faint:
and I'm considering posting (finally) on the x files...but it depends on who's online right now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 07:12:54 PM
as long as we keep the foot-tapping to a minimum!

 :lol: :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 07:14:11 PM
 :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: Make an offer on a teenager!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 07:16:14 PM
According to Attack of the Show, he didn't have time to get to the 'pass the breath mints with a toilet seat shield' part of the encounter.  Because you want the other person to have good breath, because there's some making out to be going on, and they can use the cover as a bib, to avoid dirtying their shirt.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 07:19:57 PM
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Make an offer on a teenager!!

Now, now...you may offend some of our esteemed members.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 07:20:33 PM
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Make an offer on a teenager!!

Now, now...you may offend some of our esteemed members.
GGGGGrowl!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 07:25:34 PM
Hey there JW...just saw your post about my awesome new avatar on the other thread.

Ha, check me out...I'm a chick with a gun, and I'm not afraid to use it!  Spiders Beware!!   :draw:

I thought it was appropriate considering my recent declaration of war against the creepy little things.  It was either this one or the cat aiming the gun out the window- I may switch at some point.   :)  Pardon the violence everyone...I've just been pushed too far!   :rant:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
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GGGGGrowl!

See..poor, Chelc had a bad day. Not all teenagers are created equal. Chelc is a keeper!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 07:33:24 PM
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GGGGGrowl!

See..poor, Chelc had a bad day. Not all teenagers are created equal. Chelc is a keeper!
:(

And audal, like my mantel avatar?  :rof3:
It's the closest pic I could find to the fireplace at my house.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 07:35:57 PM
Okay, that I don't get...

aren't you from idaho?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 07:37:26 PM
No he's from Monttaaannaaa
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 07:38:09 PM
ahh, then, i don't suppose his Senator's been in the news lately...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 07:40:57 PM
Oh THAT guy..Nope. Nope. He's not gay..he just likes airport men's rooms.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 07:41:20 PM
Well, I have no idea what you're talking about!  ;)
Anyway, so who's filling in for aud tonight as barkeeper? I could use something strong...what can I have that's legal??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 07:55:03 PM
He left his post and no one filled out an application, so I guess it's me.  And I don't card, so order whatever you want! :wine:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 29, 2007, 07:56:39 PM
Ah Chelc!  I'm throwin' a karma your way just for your new avatar.   It had me   :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 08:02:43 PM
Yay! Karma!
Okay then...I have zero experience with alcohol. Champagne good? GIMME SOME!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:14:16 PM
Attention, Chelc the teenager..report to Beta Testers. Stat. Special delivery requires your signature.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 08:22:27 PM
I can't get in trouble for giving virtual alcohol to a teenager, can I?  Screw it!!  If Audal was here he would stop me, but he's NOT!!!   :wine: (I would never do this in real life, so don't bother coming to Montana, Chelc!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:26:27 PM
Ooooh boy, Audal's going to keel over when he sees your avatar, girlfriend.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 08:27:12 PM
I'm not...I changed my mind anyway.
I'll go with ginger ale.

and J, there IS a pic of aud, ya know the one with his arms raised out? Get that in there, and I'll love you forever!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:30:45 PM
I dunno..he's a little funny about that...maybe I'll give him a disguise..Okay. It's a bit warped.  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 08:32:08 PM
Oh whatever. But now whenever I look at my posts, I think they're Lo's and I confuse myself.  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 08:36:41 PM
Really, I'm scared.  I'm going to send Francis an email and invite him back to the forum...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
Who's ready for the whole set? Poor Audal's really going to go into coronary thrombosis when he sees this.  If you want a disguise, too, Loth, I'd be most happy to oblige. We'll all know who it is.



drumroll.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:55:07 PM
Anything else?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 29, 2007, 08:55:39 PM
 :rof2:

Love the new avatar Chelc.  But how come Loth always has something on his head?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 08:57:50 PM
I think we all know the reason for that.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 09:00:18 PM
Yeah, I have no hair.  Ha-ha.  I don't know.  With that disguise, audal reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies.  I think I'll stay the way I am...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 09:05:07 PM
You look very commanding up there, Loth. Aud has the option to reveal his true identity or not. I hope he doesn't ban me from the bar forever! I guess I better start praying the Red Sox win tonight.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
OMG!
karma for J!
 >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 09:13:13 PM
I can see no reason to do that.  Let's not go to extremes here...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:13:47 PM
And how dare you invite Francis back, Lo!  >:(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:14:12 PM
I can see no reason to do that.  Let's not go to extremes here...
extremes? who are you talking to? Me or J?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
I'm talking about praying that the Red Sox win.  That's just crazy talk...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 09:16:50 PM
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I'm talking about praying that the Red Sox win.  That's just crazy talk...

Ha-ha! He really meant giving me karma, but he be Skairt of me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 09:18:08 PM
Anyone with common sense is. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:22:41 PM
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I'm talking about praying that the Red Sox win.  That's just crazy talk...

Ha-ha! He really meant giving me karma, but he be Skairt of me.
yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 09:25:14 PM
I'm gonna smite the crap outta both of you!!! :ride:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 09:29:21 PM
I'm so misunderstood! 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:31:22 PM
noooo!
Don't smite me!!
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
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Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:41:54 PM
I wonder what Pat's reaction to all this is gonna be...
 :cover: :cover:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 29, 2007, 09:45:48 PM
chelc - you get such a karmasmack for that avatar...and i really dislike avatars, so it's really something for me to give brownie points for one!!!

i choked on my [real life] wine when I saw it!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 09:52:35 PM
Not to be greedy, but that was my little present to her. She was feeling grumpy and lowdown. And I think Mr. Mantelhead smited me. :'(  :'(  :'(


 :moom:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:53:59 PM
buti gave you 2 karma for it J...want another?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 09:56:16 PM
UG!
none of you better log out!
I'm going CRAZY with boredom!!!
HEEELLPPP
 :taz:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
Hey..haven't I entertained you enough for one night?

Oh..and I think you need something devilishly clever to go with your new av.

PS..think we should install a defibrilator in here for Aud? He's gonna go into cardiac arrest.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 29, 2007, 10:02:12 PM
naw...I think he'll take it pretty well. It's all fun and games anyway... ;D
I guess I should go do something else...like write...or read...but I'm feeling awfully icky and just want to be blah, which makes it worse, because then I feel icky about being blah. Are you following this?
And I'm having a chocolate craving...*bad...chelsea...no...chocolate!*
UGGG!!
 :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 29, 2007, 10:25:37 PM
Sorry, it's my bedtime. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 10:32:58 PM
'night Legion! 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 10:38:19 PM
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Sorry, it's my bedtime.

nighty-night. Night, chelc...no girl..no chocolate. Go make yourself a nice cup of tea. I just sent out a query myself! Now I do think I might write.

TTFN
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 10:53:11 PM
Then go!  Just write already!! :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 29, 2007, 11:12:41 PM
I sent out a query instead.  :rolleyes:
You think you're so original, eh? That's the name of my critique group.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 11:37:18 PM
No, that used to be your sig line, silly.  I was quoting you.  May be time to lay off the coffee and take a Valium!! :faint:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 29, 2007, 11:52:48 PM
Well, I guess I'll be closing down the Tavern tonight, so  :band: ...One last call for alcohol, so finish your whisky or beer.  Closing time, you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.  G'nite!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 05:15:32 AM
Poor Audal's really going to go into coronary thrombosis when he sees this.

No, JW, not quite! (but I totally love your phrase, so you're exempt)

What I am gonna do is spin a tidy li'l' tornado through this tavern tomorrow & clean up Wednesday's Chaos!

By the way - if you came to this thread first on Thursday... Big mistake!

See, while all y'all were-a-sleepin', check this out (dear lord i hope i posted this properly):QT CLASSIFIEDS[/size]]http://querytracker.net/forum/index.php?topic=251.msg4834#newQT CLASSIFIEDS (http://querytracker.net/forum/index.php?topic=251.msg4834#new[size=18pt)

Smileys? 

As if.  Way beyond that.

Senshi - you stay strong... I recall a comment you made about you eventually showing us how to really treat a tavern.  We all say BRING IT... so you & Rhianne get home & cozy soon.

OK, I guess this is close enough...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 30, 2007, 07:48:35 AM
buti gave you 2 karma for it J...want another?

i gave you a karma smack too, JW!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 30, 2007, 08:00:37 AM
I will personally give a shiny new karma point and lots of cyber  :$: :$: :$: :$: :$: :$: to whomever posts in the x-cerpt files today.


Let get writing!!

 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: (the x-cerpt cheerleaders)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 08:07:06 AM
yeah...I'd better, Miss J. I was kinda burnt from my three day exposure to the BRONX. And I had so much fun amusing myself with Chelc's icon (she was in dire need of a boost). And WOW, Senshi's great news really softened your reaction, Aud. I hope you appreciate the addition of mask to guard you secret identity, Batman. It can be removed if you feel brave.


anyway, I raise a glass (of latte at this hour?) in honor of our first QT Cutie, Riann, junior samarai and lucky kid to have such a cool and interesting mama! :toast:

(You get a karma, Aud, for being such a good sport. Who won last night?)

ps..karma for Miss J (for telling us to write) and Loth (for being a good, (if rather fiesty ;)) sport above Chelc's mantel.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 30, 2007, 09:11:02 AM
JW:   :$: :$: :$: :$: :$: :$: :$:

A shiny karma point.

And a trophy for being first today!  :award:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 09:42:19 AM
oooo yay!  :clap: I should thank you for spurring me to do a little writing. haven't had my java yet, so I better get crackin'!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 01:59:47 PM
X-Cerpt cheerleaders:  a tremendous idea, made only mildly sketchy when I envision our cheer squad sporting sweaters with a big old "X" on them!

JW: Your Yankees are getting on my nerves.  Does that answer your question?

Well, I don't so much feel X-cerpt ready today.  Day off.  Think we can get any first-time Xcerpt-ers?

C'mon, folks!  MJ's offering cash money!

By the way, Chelc's avatar was the single most jaw-dropping moment of my QT days thus far.  I laughed, I cried, I moved outta the country!

Look at the mess all y'all made here last night.  Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 02:15:59 PM
Chelc and JW, I love the new avatar but there is a problem with it.  You see, ever since it went up, membership has gone down.  You really should stop scaring people away.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on August 30, 2007, 02:21:04 PM
 :$:

(Dangles a bill to temp those to post.)

"Come on!  You know you want it!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 02:35:31 PM
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Chelc and JW, I love the new avatar but there is a problem with it.  You see, ever since it went up, membership has gone down.  You really should stop scaring people away.

For real? I really didn't make it for avatar use...just for a good laugh. Maybe it should just be hung safely in the Beta-tester's attic.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 03:00:31 PM
Chelc and JW, I love the new avatar but there is a problem with it.  You see, ever since it went up, membership has gone down.  You really should stop scaring people away.


Nuh-uh!
I refuse to believe the avatar is the cause of membership decrease
 :moom:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 03:10:42 PM
I can at least find small solace in the fact that one must scroll the avatar to get my warped self...

If this is what happens when Chelc experiments with champagne & JW gets all Red-Sox-Suck on me, well... I'm just gonna have to stop seeing other taverns!

Is Elkette now some sorta Assistant Deputy on account of her bringin' out guns last night?  And not for nothin' but when do we promote Mel to Sheriff?  Maybe we shouldn't.  The Deputy Lane title has a ring to it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 03:15:50 PM
I think I'm more like the resident exterminator.  If you've got a beasty problem, you know who to call (I do draw the line at agents though - beastly though some may be, I'm not burning any bridges even in virtual world!!).   ;D  I spent the morning stocking up on Raid, and the kids and I are now comfortably sitting in a bug free house.  We have to wear gas masks for the next several months, but hey, it's worth it   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 04:51:39 PM
This tavern shure has gotten vi-lent!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 05:32:08 PM
OK, then... So am I correct in assuming that Asst. Deputy is off the table & Elkette's new official QT Title is Resident Bug-Buster?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 05:32:38 PM

I refuse to believe the avatar is the cause of membership decrease


If you saw those faces, would you join? :no:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 05:34:37 PM

I refuse to believe the avatar is the cause of membership decrease


If you saw those faces, would you join? :no:

Quit making fun.  Of course my face is a mess - Do you realize how hard it is to breathe with this mask on?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 05:36:26 PM
I know it's a little violent...completely my fault.  I am fighting it, really.  (note the new avatar - I'm trying to get in touch with my cute inner kitty)   ;D  Really, I'm a nice person, as long as you have four legs or less and aren't trying to invade my home.  It's all this waiting...rejection...waiting some more...rejection...and more waiting...

I don't drink, I have got to lay of the chocolate (seriously, my scale screamed in terror this morning and is even now cowering under the toilet) - so, I take my frustrations out on the little beasties in my yard.  Hey, I don't go tromping through their home...that's all I'm sayin'   :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 05:37:50 PM
BTW, I don't take kindly to little beasties tramping through my favorite tavern either, so if the job is open...

 :draw:  Watch Out!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 05:38:03 PM
We're going to have to find you a spider avatar, Elkette.  That would totally suit your current obsession!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 05:54:46 PM
This is getting really confusing, everytime I see Chelc's avatar I think it's a post from Loth.   :bonk:

Sometimes it looks like he's talking to himself.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 05:59:10 PM
NO WAY!!!!  I'd get creeped out looking at my own avatar.  (now how pathetic would that be...being scared of my own "face")   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 06:02:32 PM
Why is this red?  :moom:  Reverse sunburn?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 06:14:58 PM
This is getting really confusing, everytime I see Chelc's avatar I think it's a post from Loth.   :bonk:

yup, it confuses me too  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 06:24:31 PM
This is getting really confusing, everytime I see Chelc's avatar I think it's a post from Loth.   :bonk:
yup, it confuses me too    ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 06:25:28 PM
This is getting really confusing, everytime I see Chelc's avatar I think it's a post from Loth.   :bonk:

yup, it confuses me too  ;D

Which brings us to tonight's burning question... What if Loth is actually one of Chelc's many personalities?

Oh dear lord - what if I am, too?  No wonder I was having gender & existential issues a while back... it's because I'm not even REAL!

This changes everything.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
Sounds like it could be a book...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 06:35:36 PM
 :moom:   I believe this is called a "moon" burn    :rof2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 06:53:06 PM
This is getting really confusing, everytime I see Chelc's avatar I think it's a post from Loth.   :bonk:

yup, it confuses me too  ;D

Which brings us to tonight's burning question... What if Loth is actually one of Chelc's many personalities?

Oh dear lord - what if I am, too?  No wonder I was having gender & existential issues a while back... it's because I'm not even REAL!

This changes everything.
or both of you could just be in comas and this is all just in your head... :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 06:56:02 PM
:moom:   I believe this is called a "moon" burn    :rof2:

You've been karma-ized  :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 06:57:41 PM
I am not seeing Miss Zellweger up here on the mantel.  I demand a better coma!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 30, 2007, 07:05:01 PM
I am not seeing Miss Zellweger up here on the mantel.  I demand a better coma!

hilarious!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 07:16:55 PM
Oooooo...karma....me likey!   :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 30, 2007, 07:42:36 PM
Does that mean that while you're in the coma, your dasterdly evil twin is running around town inpersonating you?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 08:05:48 PM
Does that mean that while you're in the coma, your dasterdly evil twin is running around town inpersonating you?

Nope.  He's running around town impersonating you!

 >:D<sinister laugh> >:D

Nah, I'm just kidding.  Being in a coma sometimes makes me irritable like that.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:22:43 PM
You're livin' in your own private Idaho...
ooo WAAAHH ooo WAAAHHooo WAAAaaaahhoooooooooohh

 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 08:31:38 PM
You're livin' in your own private Idaho...
ooo WAAAHH ooo WAAAHHooo WAAAaaaahhoooooooooohh

 ;D

Chelc, anyone ever tell you you're a fruit loop?! ;D

By the way, you forgot  :band:

Or were you singin' a capella?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:33:48 PM
yup, a capella it was.
And I can't believe you called me a fruit loop...duuuudde. That's freaky. (it was my nickname in 8th grade because I used to always say "what the frootloop?")
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 30, 2007, 08:34:41 PM
You're livin' in your own private Idaho...
ooo WAAAHH ooo WAAAHHooo WAAAaaaahhoooooooooohh

 ;D
HEY!  I thought you said this was in Montana!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 08:39:22 PM
Well, it's not all that freaky when you consider I'm on your mantel.  See, you don't know it, but when the house is empty, Loth & I pop off of our perches and poke around the house. 

We found an 8th grade yearbook & are planning on submitting it to Writers' House under the title MY LIFE AS A KIDNAPPIN' B-52s HOWLIN' JOHNNY DEPP STALKIN' FRUIT LOOP.

We have high hopes for sure.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 08:42:04 PM
And what is MY TITLE?  booms a voice?

Goddess!

Feel my wrath!!!!

 :kneel:

ahhh, the power of design. Anyone else for a place on the mantel?

muuuuhaaaa-haaaaa-haaaa!

This is what the publishing business has done to me. Turned me psycho.
You should start a padded cell thread. Or solitary confinement thread.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:42:58 PM
Since a lot of people are logged in tonight, but hardly anyone is talking, I'll just keep singing

 :band:
Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo
You're living in your own private Idaho, living in your own priiiivate Iiiidahooo
Underground like a wild potatooooo
Don't go on the patio
Beware of the poooool, blue bottomless poooool
It leads you straight right through the gate that opens on the pooooooool

You're living in your own private Idaho.
You're living in your own private Idaho....

Keep off the path, beware the gate, watch out for signs that say hidden driveways
Don't let the chlorine in your eyes blind you to the awful surprise that's waitin' for you at
the bottom of the bottomless blue, blue, blue pool.

You're livin in your own Private Idahoooo. Idaho.
You're out of controoool, the rivers that roooooll,
you fell into the water and down to Idahooo.
Get out of that state,
get out of that state you're in.
You better bewaaarrrrrrrrrrrre....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 08:45:34 PM
I have a good one for ya, Chelc. It's from an Orbit gum commercial. My daughter is very fond of this one..maybe you've seen it?

What the French, toast!

And in your defense, little sistah, who on this thread has the right to call anyone else LOOPY?

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:46:27 PM
haha yes I have.
But what the frootloop? is more fun because then people stare at me like "what did she say?"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 08:48:31 PM
Hey, I have a cool idea for you avatar. I can adjust it so the heads are over to the side and only those in the know scroll to look. You like? I'm itching to do something else. How about your face in the fireplace? That'll really scare em'!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:52:03 PM
Hey, I have a cool idea for you avatar. I can adjust it so the heads are over to the side and only those in the know scroll to look. You like? I'm itching to do something else. How about your face in the fireplace? That'll really scare em'!
OMG! DO IIITTTTT!!!
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 08:54:33 PM
Which one?

a) scrolling heads
b) your screamin' face in the flames
c) all of the above

 ;)

We is trouble, we two.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 08:58:36 PM
my face in the fire...
meanwhile...as the B-52's conert continues...a personal favorite...

 :band:

We were at the beach
Everybody had matching towels
Somebody went under a dock
And there they saw a rock...
It wasn't a rock...

IT WAS A ROCK LLOOOBBSSTERRR!!

aahhh aahhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhh AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Rock Lobster!!!
aaaahhhh aahhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhh AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Rock Lobster!!!

Commotion in the ocean (ooo aahhh)
His air hose broke (ooo aahhh)
Lots of trouble (ooo aahhh)
Lots of bubble (ooo aahhh)
He was in a jam (ooo aahhh)
Said the giant CLAM!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:03:24 PM
Hey, I have a cool idea for you avatar. I can adjust it so the heads are over to the side and only those in the know scroll to look. You like? I'm itching to do something else. How about your face in the fireplace? That'll really scare em'!

Oh dear god YES - please slide my face far over to the hidden side!  And I also think the fireplace idea is rad.

And I also love "what the frootloop!"

Why am I so aggreeable all of a sudden?

Chelc - whatcha' think of my book title back a few posts?  I need your approval before I start emailing queries on it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:06:16 PM
People are awfully slow tonight...you all must have lives...
Time for a sad song!

Please come love, I think I'm falling
Holding on to all I think is safe
It seems I've found the road to noo where
And I'm trying to escape...
I yelled back when I heard thunderrrr
But I'm down to one last breath
And with it let me say
Let me ssaaaaaay...

Hold me now
I'm 6 feet from the edge
And I'm thinkin'
Maybe 6 feet ain't so far down...

I'm lookin' down, now that its over
Reflecting on all of my mistakes
I thought I found the road to somewhere
Somewhere in his grace
I cried out
Heaven save me!
But I'm down to one last breath
And with it let me say
Let me say
Let me saaaay...

Hold me now!
I'm 6 feet from the edge
And I'm thinkin'
Maybe 6 feet ain't so far down

 :(

ps. what book title???
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
No one listens to Creed? Okay, how about 3 doors down??

 :band:
I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind
I left my body laying somewhere in the sands of time
I watched the world float to the dark
Side of the moon I feel there is nothing I can do, yeah

I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon
After all I knew it had to be something to do with you
I really don't mind what happens now and then
As long as you'll be my friend at the end

If I go crazy then will you still
call me superman?
If I'm alive and well, will you be
there holding my hand?
I'll keep you by my side with
My superhuman might...
KRYPTONITE!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:16:12 PM
ps. what book title???

Post #824.

Try not to smite me ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:18:18 PM
oh yes, that. whatever. have fun.
and now if you'll excuse me as I continue with krotonite...

You called me strong, you called me weak, but your secrets I will keep
You took for granted all the times I never let you down...
You stumbled in and bumped your head, if not for me then you'd be dead
I picked you up and put you back on solid ground!

If I go crazy then will you still
call me superman?
If I'm alive and well will you be there holding my hand?
I'll keep you by my side with my superhuman might
Kryptonite!!
YYEAAAAHHH!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:20:54 PM

If I go crazy then will you still
call me superman?


What do you mean "If?"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:22:23 PM
dude...it's a song
if you tell me you have never heard Kryptonite....wow, you are DEPRIVED!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:25:34 PM
Of course I know Kryptonite, you fruit loop!  I just saw another opportunity to needle you is all.

Apparently I missed.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:27:25 PM
goodness, how many times do I have to say "and still, no one is talking!"
I would have thought it'd registered in your brains by now...

well, my vocal cords are nice and warm...any requests? Oh wait, you're all ignoring me...that's right...
okay

 :band:
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do
Two can be as bad as one
It's the loneliest number since the number one...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 30, 2007, 09:31:03 PM
It's stiff drink time.  Barkeep, line 'em up and keep 'em coming.

Only one rejection today, but it was one of those "man, this agent sounds perfect for me" agents.  Bah!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:32:15 PM
OK, Fruit Loop... what would you like us all to talk about?  Your choice, choose well.

Or are you just sad b/c the regular barkeep's back on duty & thus you don't get the chance to get all cranked up on champagne?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
Yeah...me too. that's why I'm drowning myself in digital insanity.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
I'm just BORED is all...
cherish this moment, guys, because you will never hear another teen ever say this EVER again...
I CAN'T WAIT FOR SCHOOL TO START!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:38:14 PM
Yo Leg!  Didn't see you slide in... Sorry about the rejection.  One bottle of Call-An-Ambulance comin' up!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 09:38:33 PM
WHAT THE FRUITLOOP!!!  I am so using that!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 30, 2007, 09:39:11 PM
Yeah, I snuck in a little while ago.  It was a long day at work, which didn't help the rejection that I came home to.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:41:36 PM
WHAT THE FRUITLOOP!!!  I am so using that!!
no, no, no, no, NO!
it's what the FROOTLOOP! because the breakfast cereal frootloops are spelt that way!! not 'fruit loop'
Doi!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:48:15 PM
sloooooowww!
that's what y'all are...
I need something to eat, even though it's almost ten...but I skipped dinner!
 :cake:
ooh look! A cake!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 09:49:40 PM
Oooops.  Frootloop.  Sorry.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 09:51:09 PM
You skipped dinner?!

Great.  So much for my evening's leftovers.  I'll just sit here.  Starving.  Without Renee Zellweger.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on August 30, 2007, 09:55:24 PM
You want a bite of my Mickey ears?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 09:59:47 PM
I am now peanut butter...but with celery so it doesn't count as cheating  ;D
I haven't had peanut butter in...in...in...(a long, long time)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 30, 2007, 10:03:01 PM
(since that one night in Mexico, but I killed all the witnesses...)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:04:25 PM
hahaha
yup, that's it!
And I just realized that I wrote "I am now peanut butter"
I meant "I am now EATING peanut butter"
 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 10:22:04 PM
Hi all.  Please, please, please forgive the mundane question here (I beg you, no smiting!!!!)  but I need an answer kinda quick, and as you all don't seem too busy.... ;D

I know in titles the "little" words aren't capitalized.  But does "its" count, cause it looks funny to me not capitalized.  Like in a newspaper article title - Example :  NASA Launches its New Shuttle

Or would it be   NASA Launches Its New Shuttle?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
nope, don't capitalize.
You can trust me, because I'm in High School and have many English notebooks full of grammer notes.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
Quote
Great.  So much for my evening's leftovers.  I'll just sit here.  Starving.  Without Renee Zellweger.

Name your Zellweger and it's yours.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 10:36:09 PM
nope, don't capitalize.
You can trust me, because I'm in High School and have many English notebooks full of grammer notes.

Do you have any spelling books?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:38:32 PM
Hi all.  Please, please, please forgive the mundane question here (I beg you, no smiting!!!!)  but I need an answer kinda quick, and as you all don't seem too busy.... ;D

I know in titles the "little" words aren't capitalized.  But does "its" count, cause it looks funny to me not capitalized.  Like in a newspaper article title - Example :  NASA Launches its New Shuttle

Or would it be   NASA Launches Its New Shuttle?
wait wait wait...I take that back, I only skimmed through this...
if you're using 'its' in the context of "NASA Launches Its New Shuttle", then yes, 'its' is capitalized, since the 'its' is replacing the subject--because you wouldn't say "NASA Launches NASA'S New Shuttle". Am I making any sense?
 ???
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:38:57 PM
nope, don't capitalize.
You can trust me, because I'm in High School and have many English notebooks full of grammer notes.

Do you have any spelling books?
huh? Why do you ask Pat?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 30, 2007, 10:39:40 PM
 :rolf: Patrick...you crack me up!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 10:40:12 PM
Grammar / Grammer?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 30, 2007, 10:47:47 PM
Just havin' fun, right Chelc?  I'm actually the worstes speler eveer.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:49:09 PM
No you aren't...you should meet my friend Litzy...
just a few days ago she called me randomly and asked "how do you spell toilet?"
I win  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 30, 2007, 10:54:24 PM
Sorry, the kids snuck out of bed.  Thanks so much!  That's what I was thinking.  Here's some Karma for you!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 10:58:55 PM
KARMA!!
 ;D
anyway, since earlier I was singing late 90's tunes, I think I'll continue with something more interesting...(maybe even annoying  >:D) AND WHOEVER FIGURES OUT WHAT IT IS GETS KARMA!!! NAME THE SONG TITLE AND ARTIST!

 :band:
I'm doin' this tonight,
You're probably gonna start a fight.
I know this can't be right, hey baby come onnn,
I loved you endlessly, when you weren't there for me.
So now it's time to leave and make it alone
I know that I can't take no more
It ain't no lieeee
I wanna see you out that door, baby...(INSERT SONG TITLE HERE!)


any takers?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 11:02:36 PM
 :flag: No clue.

Must now watch "The Office."  Try not to destroy the tavern over the next half hour... (he says, practically issuing a carnage invitation)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 11:13:08 PM
you have to be kidding!!
does NO ONE know this song?!!
wow...impressive!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 30, 2007, 11:18:28 PM
Fine, ruin the fun you unhip people!
I wanna see you out that door, baby BYE BYE BYE

duh, it's bye bye bye, by Nsync!!
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 30, 2007, 11:36:44 PM
OK, well actually?  I'm feelin' quite good about the fact that I did not know the song you were singin'.

Then again, Debbie Gibson was pretty cute when she and I were teens together.  Not together together because of the restraining order.  Just together apart.  At least 200 feet at all times. 

It's OK, Chelc... we all have our embarrassing things.  Your thing is N-Sync.  It's OK.  Like you said earlier, admitting the problem is a quality first step!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 06:13:28 AM
 :o

No you did not.

We did just listen to N Sync.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 31, 2007, 07:35:59 AM
Quote
Then again, Debbie Gibson was pretty cute when she and I were teens together.

fur-real or a delusion of yours?

ps..Chelc your updated avatar awaits you in Beta-land.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 07:47:25 AM
No one listens to Creed? Okay, how about 3 doors down??

 :band:
I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind
I left my body laying somewhere in the sands of time
I watched the world float to the dark
Side of the moon I feel there is nothing I can do, yeah

I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon
After all I knew it had to be something to do with you
I really don't mind what happens now and then
As long as you'll be my friend at the end

If I go crazy then will you still
call me superman?
If I'm alive and well, will you be
there holding my hand?
I'll keep you by my side with
My superhuman might...
KRYPTONITE!



wow, that song is even more annoying as poetry.  hard to believe!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on August 31, 2007, 10:34:48 AM
No one listens to Creed? Okay, how about 3 doors down??

 :band:
I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind
I left my body laying somewhere in the sands of time
I watched the world float to the dark
Side of the moon I feel there is nothing I can do, yeah

I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon
After all I knew it had to be something to do with you
I really don't mind what happens now and then
As long as you'll be my friend at the end

If I go crazy then will you still
call me superman?
If I'm alive and well, will you be
there holding my hand?
I'll keep you by my side with
My superhuman might...
KRYPTONITE!



wow, that song is even more annoying as poetry.  hard to believe!
WHAT?!! kryptonite is AMAZING.
grrrr  >:(

and what's wrong with Nsync? they were popular once ya know! That song just randomly popped in my head, and I'm surprised no one got it...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 11:20:44 AM
i'm surprised i didn't get either of them, but i suppose it's only because they look different 'on paper' than in my ear.  i worked at a top40 radio station for 10 years...i know my 3 Doors Down, NSync and Semisonic, despite my best effort not to.  Simple Minds...god.  as one co-worker put it, 'it sounds like he's just reading his diary!'  sigh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 05:33:21 PM
Tavern business has gone WAY down since you-know-who planted himself in front of the place!

There was a Simple Minds CD that I actually liked... Not from their popular days, though.  I think it was called "Street Fighting Man."  It was their post-Top-40 era... with all their "awareness" songs like "Belfast Child."  I think they covered Peter Gabriel's "Biko" on there, too.  I wonder if I can find it somewhere in my boxes of music I may never listen to again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 06:10:32 PM
Tavern business has gone WAY down since you-know-who planted himself in front of the place!

There was a Simple Minds CD that I actually liked... Not from their popular days, though.  I think it was called "Street Fighting Man."  It was their post-Top-40 era... with all their "awareness" songs like "Belfast Child."  I think they covered Peter Gabriel's "Biko" on there, too.  I wonder if I can find it somewhere in my boxes of music I may never listen to again.

ok, if you say so.  but, i want Hank Williams, tonight!!

Hey, hey, good lookin',
Whatcha got cookin'?
How's about cookin' somethin' up with me?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 06:20:22 PM
I know it is the unfortunate mark of a bad country-western barkeep, but I do not know a single verse of Hank Williams.

His daughter Holly is kinda cute, though.  And I think she sings a song called "Sometimes" that's real purty-like.

How's about I just set you up with the jukebox remote for a while?  At least 'til Chelc stumbles in and orders up some more N-Sync...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 06:58:21 PM
How's this one

 :band:   Should I stay or should I go now.....Should I stay or should I go now......If I stay there could be trouble....If I go there could be double....So darlin let me know....Should I stay or should I go!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 07:11:24 PM
far be it for me to question the evil kitty, but, uh....that's the clash and they ain't C&W, no how.

however, they ARE great, so, as far as I'M concerned, they can stay...the guardsman at the door may have another opinion, but if you curtsy all pretty-like, i'm sure he'd tip his hat to you, too!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2007, 07:22:01 PM
If I curtsy pretty-like can I get in too?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Patrick, if you "curtsy pretty-like," you'll be the next headliner of the What-Gender-Is-It? parade.

And let me tell ya, it's hard work!

The tavern guardsman considers Elkette's Clash selection.

The verdict comes forth.

 :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 07:35:23 PM
If I curtsy pretty-like can I get in too?

depends.  is this tavern on brokeback mountain?  (or...IOWA???  I am so amazed by today's news story - hurray Iowa!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2007, 07:41:05 PM
OK, no curtsy for me.  Which reminds me of a song...

 :band: Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola
Lola la-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2007, 07:50:32 PM
This place really dies on the weekends.  Lets see if I can get their attention.

FREE DRINKS!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on August 31, 2007, 07:52:04 PM
OK, no curtsy for me.  Which reminds me of a song...

 :band: Well I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola
Lola la-la-la-la Lola la-la-la-la Lola


oh, serious karmasmack for you, pard, and a coupl'a rounds o'tequila to boot (but, not IN the boot, unless you ask)(and, even then, ooooooo!  no)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 07:59:11 PM
Wait.  Free what?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 08:37:04 PM
Thank you, dear Tavern guardsmen, for allowing my song choice.  I know it's not C&W, but I had it blasting, the kids were dancing, and hey, it's a good song.   ;D  and...you guys are startin' to get a little Brokeback scary    ;)  how many drinks have you all had?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2007, 08:42:07 PM
This isn't turning into a C&W dive is it?  I don't see a mechanical bull (and hope I never do.) 

I'll have to open up a Hard Rock Cafe if it does.  :band:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 08:45:57 PM
Thank you, dear Tavern guardsmen, for allowing my song choice.  I know it's not C&W, but I had it blasting, the kids were dancing, and hey, it's a good song.   ;D  and...you guys are startin' to get a little Brokeback scary    ;)  how many drinks have you all had?

If I can reply to this, then the answer is simple: Not.  Enough.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 31, 2007, 08:52:13 PM
Well, it's clear where you're coming from, Lege. Okay with me...lay those cards on the table, dude, better than those lying Congressmen. Just remember we have some teenagers around so keep it PG-13.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 08:54:18 PM
I always keep it PG-13.  In fact, I'm so awesome, I keep it PG-7. 

(Is that even possible?)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 08:58:21 PM
[If I can reply to this, then the answer is simple: Not.  Enough.
[/quote]

Well then, time to get started!  What's the special tonight?

Oh, and Leg....niiiiice avatar (that one deserves some Karma!)   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 31, 2007, 09:00:51 PM
That's G. No need for that...our teens are very sophisticated.

So now that everyone else has a cool avatar, what do you think mine should be? I'm jealous of the cool ones I've made for you two, but you know how it goes. It's hard to think of stuff for yourself. Should I do the sacred cheerio, like from my abandoned community fiction? Hmmm..I suppose I can do one of me as a barfly a la Nora Desmon. And JJ, c'mon..dontcha want one of your own? Love the crazy cat, Elk!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 09:04:10 PM
Yeah, he's eye candy.  He's the concept rumbling around my head right now, so thus he got avatarized.

Sacred cheerio.  Now that sounds interesting. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 09:26:49 PM
So now that everyone else has a cool avatar, what do you think mine should be?

I definitely like the Nora Desmond idea... But I think I gotta think on it some more.  Given your avatar work, I can see some sort of mad graphic scientist being appropriate - but I don't know how you'd properly reflect it.  Then there was the "den mother" title - which seems like ages ago and isn't as fitting as the mad scientist.

Wait!   :!:  Idea!

Playing off the notion that us "oldies" (as our resident live-wire likes to call us) mesh so easily with the Teen Team, what about something showing that you're very in tune with your younger self?!  (this, by the way, is a theme of my WIP, so run with it if possible)

Yeah, OK, so this would involve some crafty work on your part, but I envision a pic of you now sharing a seat on a bus with a pic of you at 16.

THAT would be WAY cool!

Ya think?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
 :y:  The kids are in bed, my hubby is coming home tonight after being gone for nearly 2 weeks (but not for a few more hours so I've got some free time...wait, what...did I really say that?  Yep!!!  Free time - drinks on me everyone!!!   :cool:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 09:32:32 PM
I'll have a shot of Call-An-Ambulance.  Make it a double.

That'll make work more interesting in the morning.  Virtual hangovers.  That's what all the cool kids are doing now. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on August 31, 2007, 09:46:13 PM
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in tune with your younger self?
Hmmm..are you suggesting my current self isn't fantastic?  :'(
I know...you didn't mean that..just ribbing you.

Personally, in my case, I'm more in touch with my inner 12 year old. Or six year old. C'mon..think on it a bit. I think it needs to be some kind of bar floozy. Let me look in my Iphoto albums. I'm like Chelc. I have very few "normal" pictures.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 09:49:48 PM
Do we have a Call-a-life flight helicoptor?  Or is that just too much?   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 09:52:15 PM
I'm sure we could invent one, even if there wasn't one already.

2 ounces of Absolut Angst, 1 ounce of Rejection-Friday Skyy, equal parts fruit punch and OJ, and a dash of Grand Marnier Melodrama.

Roughly.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 09:57:30 PM
Oooo, yummy...with a side of your avatar please   :wink:   *sigh*  my goodness, I just don't know what has gotten into me tonight   :emb2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on August 31, 2007, 10:09:20 PM
Sorry, he's mine. :)  But I could be persuaded to share. :)

I really should be working on revising my query, but I'm bored. :P
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on August 31, 2007, 10:31:24 PM
Hmmm, I'll bribe you with karms   :yes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 10:40:33 PM
C'mon..think on it a bit. I think it needs to be some kind of bar floozy. Let me look in my Iphoto albums. I'm like Chelc. I have very few "normal" pictures.

OK, then... Make it your bar floozy.  But also synchronize it with a pic of you at any teen or pre-teen age.  I'm tellin' you - the statement is strong.  No matter how many years are under the belt, the youthful spirit is always at your side!

I firmly stand behind this one.

I had a segment in my last MS in which my MC had an imaginative little chat with her 18 year-old self.  It was great fun to write and sort of taught me that the relationship between our various "selves" is closer than we consciously acknowledge.

There was also some room for top-shelf humor...

The MC at 33:  "We'll check out google and see if we can find him"
MC's 18 year-old self:  "What's a google?"

<cricket... cricket... cricket>

Well, I never said the novel was any good.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on August 31, 2007, 10:45:54 PM
OK you two (aud and jw) a pre-teen dressed as a bar floozy risks getting us shut down for kiddy porn.  Keep it tasteful (oh, too late for that already.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on August 31, 2007, 11:05:32 PM
No, no -- It's the pre-teen hangin' out with the bar floozy.  Like her shadow, y'know?

 :band: Meeeee and my shadow......

Never mind.

But it's completely tasteful!  Even classy in a charming kinda way!

Honestly, when have we ever been tasteless?  :inocent:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 07:51:23 AM
First of all there are NO digital images of my preteen self on this planet as mankind had not yet even explored the many uses of fire. No seriously. I don't have a scanner...(well I did, but I lost the cable for it) so I have no images available from that joyous time. Mom has those photos (I think). I didn't look THAT different. Humphh. My current avatar is a pretty close approximation.

Besides, I was a miserable preteen anyway. I'm a much happier, sillier and funner(funner?) grup (except when I get another rejection)! You should have seen me and my collegue acting up. Two forty-something ninnies dancing around like complete fools. Sorry, no pix available.

I have to give this more thought. I'm now thinking along the lines of wizardry. You did say I was a cross between JK Rowling and Janis Joplin.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2007, 09:49:33 AM
Look what I found.  <Scroll Down>














































:woot:

(No, no one has stolen our word.  I had to add the 'T')
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 10:01:17 AM
:woot:

Sweet!

A word of caution, though... Apparently getting on Chelc's good side means you might get a place on her mantel.  Which I'm sure is OK by me & Loth -- we're gettin' mighty bored of each other.  Chelc does a terrible job of leaving the TV on overnight!

Oh - and JW - I also support the Joplin/Rowling hybrid if you can pull it off.

But I gotta say, if I had a nickel for eveytime I've heard the "I don't have a scanner line," I'd have a dime!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2007, 10:04:21 AM
I know.  How can a graphic artist NOT have a scanner.  Come on.  Who's gonna take you serious without a scanner?

And what a lame excuse.  Lost the cable.  Email me the picture and I'll scan it for you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 10:29:04 AM
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Email me the picture and I'll scan it for you

Pardon? Email the 1972 kodachrome shot of a woefully knobby-kneed girl with braces AND glasses? And you call yourself a PROGRAMMER? HEE!!!
Like good wine I've grown better with age. Besides, at 25 I really did look 12. No kidding. So you'll just have to be content with the wonderful, wacky, middle-aged MOI. Maybe if I feel ambitious, I'll see what I can dig up and give you all a good laugh. And like, yeah, we have plenty of scanners at school. But I find I never use em'. Everything's digital, you know?

Oh..I and I love the  :woot:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 12:54:25 PM
Did I forget to log out yesterday?
Because I just got on the computer and I was already logged in...hmmm

And don't worry Pat pat, a simple  :woot: will not land you a spot on the mantel.
Sorry about the TV aud... :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 12:59:51 PM
Maybe it was your evil twin, the anti-Chelc.  :)

And why am I on here when I should be cleaning out this summer house? Oh that's why..this is much more fun than a visit to the town dump.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 01:05:58 PM
town dump? eewww
(I am a clean freak if you didn't notice!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2007, 01:11:10 PM

this is much more fun than a visit to the town dump.


That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about QT.  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 01:23:25 PM
And it's WAYYYYY more fun than scrubbing two months of grime from a bathroom, too. Totally. You have my permission to quote me for your testimonials.

You're a clean freak, Chelc? Don't forget to polish Loth's head and pick the cobwebs from Aud's mustache! And when you're all done, how about a nice trip to the Bronx? I can use a clean freak in my family of lazy-ass slackers (me included).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 03:48:44 PM
And when you're all done, how about a nice trip to the Bronx? I can use a clean freak in my family of lazy-ass slackers (me included).
no thanks. I've got enough of those slackers at my house. (seriously, poeple in my household forget to close the microwave...it's pathetic  :crazy:)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 01, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
QT is way more fun than managing a Ruby Tuesday's.  Or a visit to the town dump.

Do I smell a new slogan for the site?  QT is more fun than __________
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 01, 2007, 05:14:14 PM
I'm back from Hawaii!!! Again I shall not attempt to navigate this thread. Just saying I'm back...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 05:30:49 PM
Oh..I misunderstood..I thought you were there. Hi! Just jump in and start with your own nonsense. No one will notice. Please note the new avatar gallery. Tell us about Hawaii!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2007, 05:31:16 PM
I shall not attempt to navigate this thread.

You'll be sorry.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 05:35:43 PM
Navigation?  Here??

Ha!

Just think, these 920 something posts could be littering threads that are actually useful.

Welcome back, Dan... Hope you had a great trip & that you've returned with creative batteries fully charged.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 01, 2007, 05:45:40 PM
Dan probably thought he was on the wrong forum for a while, what with all the new avatars and all.  But as soon as he noticed all the off-topic posts he surely realized he was home.  Welcome home Dan.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 01, 2007, 05:57:46 PM
I'm back from Hawaii!!! Again I shall not attempt to navigate this thread. Just saying I'm back...

aloha!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 07:46:48 PM
Okay, Elk, Coll any one else..we can fit you in. I think I'll stick with coffee tonight, since I want to finish my crits and write and I'm already falling asleep at 8:45. Start the banter...and fear not...this thread is as linear as the flight of a mosquito.  :yes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 07:51:47 PM
OK, but I gotta step away for a bit... so I don't want you ladies turnin' this dump place into some sorta bachelorette-type fiasco... you hear?!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 01, 2007, 07:56:25 PM
Well, you know Audie, while you're away, the ladies will play   >:D  >:D  >:D  Quick, to the jukebox!  We need some chick music!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 08:05:24 PM
Yee-haw! `Actually I was thinking more of boring sort of girl talk that puts guys to sleep..you know rambling idle chatter about kids and hormones? Oh, they hate that!  ;D

Well, let's get the music going..maybe we can do some window shopping, too, while we chit chat. But it looks like we may have the run of the place. How about some Beatles for our first selection?

Well she was just seventeen,
and you know what i mean,
and the way she looked was way beyond compare,
Now I'll never dance with another..
:woot:
When I saw her standing there..
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 01, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
Oh, good song!  Chick talk works for me.  As I've mentioned, I am out in the middle of nowhere, and the spiders aren't really inclined to talk (especially as I tend to kill them before they can get a word out!)  I am currently enjoying the peace that comes from a nice clean house.  As much as I hate cleaning, I really can't stand it when it's dirty.  I just can't think.  Of course, there is a couch full of laundry behind me, and I can literally feel it tapping me on the back.  But, I can't fold when my daughter is awake cause she tries to "help" and you can imagine how much help a 2 year old is.   :)

You know, it is a good thing my computer has been pretty slow lately.  I mean, it is frustrating as all get out, but that is how I am getting my editing and writing done   ;D  I click on a link, and while I wait for it to load, I get some writing done.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 08:34:08 PM
So you like living in the boonies with two babies? is that where you're from?

I was actually reading two of my critmates critiques of the 4,5,and 6th chapter of my WIP. it's amazing the wildy different reactions some stuff gets. I'm in two groups, this one for a full year and the other for two years. I've learned some people's crits aren't worth beans! And some are too easy on me. I'm going to duck out and finish the crit I still owe. Meanwhile my kids (16 and 11) are going nuts trying to find the cookies my husband just baked (he hid them).  They are making a RACKET. Before you get all impressed that, wow...her husband bakes cookies, it's just Duncan Hines..and he nearly burned them. We are spending our second to last night in the country house we rented for the summer. Monday we head back to the big bad city of NYC and back to real life.

Your song choice!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 01, 2007, 08:44:23 PM
Nope, I hate living in the boonies, with or without the babies   ;D  It wouldn't be so bad if my family were closer, but I grew up in CA and lived several years in TN, and all my family and friends are spread between the two states.  My hubby's family mostly lives in CO, so we are pretty alone out here.  I have a couple cousins here, but I don't see much of them. 

I just joined an online crit group, but I am totally lost on how to get started.  I know where they post their files, etc, and I sent an email introducing myself and asking for help, but I have only gotten one response and it didn't tell me where to begin.  I guess I'll just pick a file and start critiquing   :)

Well, I'm probably off for the night, or at least awhile.   ;D  Gotta do the bath/jamies/bedtime routine!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 08:45:56 PM
Well..later then. Maybe you'll tell me how you ended up out there with the spiders!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 09:27:08 PM
BREAKING NEWS FROM THE WORLD OF SPORTS!

A rookie pitcher starting in only his second game ever just threw a no-hitter for my beloved Red Sox.  Pure BEDLAM at Fenway Park!  And I'm just going  :ban: :ban: :ban:

And even the bananas themselves are going  :woot: :woot: :woot:

OK, you all can return to the Tavern's private Lilith Fair! ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 01, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
wow, you sound HAPPY!  are you sure you're a Bosox fan??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 09:41:01 PM
wow, you sound HAPPY!  are you sure you're a Bosox fan??

Yup!  That there hat you see me wearin' in the tavern photo?

It's my 2nd favorite hat.

The baseball cap with the big red "B" on it... that's my main cap!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 01, 2007, 09:46:28 PM
can you imagine what it must've been like to be in the stands tonight?  I'll bet that's a feeling not one of those thousands of people will ever forget!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 09:49:39 PM
Well, pooh, you can forget it..I'm not making THAT for you. No-Ho-ho way.
And keep it down, will ya? I can hear your hoots straight across the continent. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Hi all, what's going on tonight?
Normally the weekends are bleaker than this...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 09:53:05 PM
I got to watch the very end of the game (ESPN cut in for it), and the crowd was so electric that my heart-rate just exploded!   :happy:  Suddenly I was pacing around between pitches, then scurrying back to the TV for the pitch, then pacing... scurrying... pacing... scurrying.

The kid was just in a daze when they interviewed him for all the sell-out crowd to hear. 

JJM - you a baseball fan at all?  If not, thanks for indulging my delight!

P.S. - added 10 minutes later... Hi Chelc!  Didn't see you there.  Blinded by sports.  I'm sure this thrills you. :blah:

And JW, yeah, you're excused from putting my team's logo anywhere on your PC!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 10:11:53 PM
To show you what a dedicated sports fan i am..uh who were the Sox playing that a rookie got a no-hitter. Not the Yanks...consider yourself indulged. for now... >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 01, 2007, 10:12:08 PM
nah, not really a sports fan, but I cannot resist the thrill of a really good collective experience.  i can imagine your feeling.... glad you got a chance to see/feel it!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 10:14:56 PM
I actually watched the US open for a good 2 hours today...I was surprised that it kept my attention, since I don't really like watching sports (playing, sure. watching, yawn)

And I just watched Blood Diamond, so I'm all sad and depressed and want to go rid the world of all its horrors...sigh. The world sucks.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 10:19:40 PM
They were playing Baltimore, JW.

Anyway, thanks for lettin' me have my explosive moment.  We can now return to talkin' about... um...

So what exactly do we talk about in here?

Oh - I just caught Chelc's post.  I've been eager to see Blood Diamond - good?  Sounds it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 01, 2007, 10:32:42 PM
Takes a stool and throws a wad of money on the bar.

So, what are we drinking tonight?


Coll ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 10:34:20 PM

Oh - I just caught Chelc's post.  I've been eager to see Blood Diamond - good?  Sounds it.
Yes, it was amazingly good, Audal, though if you're one who doesn't like a lot of violence, then it's not a movie for you...I hate blood, but I'm very into world issues, so that's why I watched it. And now I want to do something about it...
Unlike most of my friends who shy away from all the terrible things in the world and go "oh, that so sad," and then move on with their day, I take action (insert determined smiley face here).

Let's see...so what can I do...? Our school has a small awareness campaign for Darfur...aha! I am going to work on expanding that this year (insert another determined smiley face here)
 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 10:37:31 PM
What an amazing and shattering movie. Leonardo is incredible. Yes, for the most part the world sucks. It sucked when I was 16 (Watergate, Vietnam) and to be honest, I'm surprised we're still here. My generation thought for sure we'd never see 30.

I think 9-11 is why I started to write. It was my reaction to the horror, to cleanse my system. The odd thing is that after the numbness wore off, my reaction was to create stuff. So before you get all gloomy, just remember that creativity is what's good about we humans. It's those non-creatives who have to keep themselves busy making everyone else miserable. It's a twisted form of creativity.

But, the thing is, life was always filled with crappy stuff, that's why you have to seek the wonderful..and scream at silly baseball games!

Yeah..Baltimore..okay..i guess they're a good team, but pffffffft...no comment on the last three losses, eh?  :wink:

Watch things heat up around here if the Sox and the Yanks go head to head. I told you..I only get interested when they do well.

PS..good on you, Chelc...that you want to do something. You go girl!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 10:38:38 PM
Hiya, Coll!!!! Nice to see you in the Tav tonight. It's somewhat mellow around here. I'm kind of ready to nod off. Getting late for us east coastals, huh?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 10:41:26 PM
It's those non-creatives who have to keep themselves busy making everyone else miserable. It's a twisted form of creativity.

haha, that's an interesting way of thinking about it...
well I'm off to get some sleep (not)
'Night!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 01, 2007, 10:46:07 PM
Wow, didn't notice it was close to midnight.

Coll :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 10:51:06 PM
Holy deep-fried crow with a side order of squirrel - Coll's here in the Tavern?!

We are drinkin' whatever the newcomer says we're drinkin'!  So hurry up - we's thirsty!

Chelc - I'm fine with violence and also big on world issues.  I just put off films until they're pretty much available in my own home for free.  I'm sure Blood Diamond will be on cable soon - I'll put it atop the TV-to-do list.

I bet you'd like a film from 1992 (?) called The Power Of One.  I'll leave it you you & your mad IMDB skills to look into it.

JW, I think we're "still here" in our world-sucks-days in part (a large part) because of the overabundance of media outlets.  Bad news lifts ratings.  Sad but true.  Not to undermine the very fact that the planet is way out of political & social alignment right now... but when politicians play to the people through the media and not policy, everyone loses.

Anyway... back to you, Chelc... Karma for your concern.  And be sure that when you're runnin' the country, you swing by the ol' folks home and bring us many, many cocktails!

So Coll - made up your mind yet?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 10:55:17 PM
I've seen little bits and pieces of the Power of one, but that's it. And yes, I did just IMDB it  ;D That site is so useful...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 01, 2007, 10:56:55 PM
Power Of One:  Way cool tribal rhythm soundtrack.

I should start posting on IMDB forums just so I can hassle you there, too ;D

Ah... 9:00.  TV time.  Words starting to look blurry on the monitor.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 11:01:09 PM
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Bad news lifts ratings
To that effect I have a good one for you.

I was talking with our computer lab technician, a Bronx-born Hispanic boy (and a Met fan of all things). He just got back from a Caribbean cruise, his first. He tells me he and his girlfriend were worried, what with all the stories of disappearing people on cruise ships, but they had a great time. I looked at him a moment with a straight face and then started to laugh maniacally. "Dude! You live in the BRONX and you're scared of a cruise ship? Look what the media has done to you. The rest of the country thinks you dodge bullets every day to get to work!"

And that is the power of the media.

But I live eleven miles north of ground zero and the real thing was scarier than any news show, believe me. But the whole thing was used as a propaganda tool..so don't get ME started.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 01, 2007, 11:02:19 PM
yay, Coll! It's you all right, with short hair! Good going! All dressed for the tavern.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 01, 2007, 11:08:42 PM
But I live eleven miles north of ground zero and the real thing was scarier than any news show, believe me. But the whole thing was used as a propaganda tool..so don't get ME started.
Oh, wow, I forgot you live in NY. Where were you when everything happened on 9/11? Ok, wait, maybe you don't wanna go into that.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 08:36:17 AM
I don't mind. Wow..it's six years already! I wasn't even thinking of the anniversary at all, either.

I was on my way to work, way up in the Bronx. Not close in proximity. But my husband was on his way to work, in way downtown Manhattan, about two blocks north of the towers. I wasn't sure how he was getting there that morning. He could have driven, taken the train or biked down the bike path (it's an 11 mile bike ride and he does that in good weather). He often got coffee and bagels in the WTC if he took the train. Turns out he biked and had no idea what was going on until he came to a certain point on the bike path. There had been lots of sirens and mayhem, but he still didn't know what was going on. So he's on his bike and he saw one of the towers collapse, just like that. You really can't imagine how large those things were and how they dominated the skyline. It still looks weird to me when we drive downtown that they are not there.

I heard the reports on my car radio, but just kept going to work. Some of my students showed up and we were so flipped out we just held hands and prayed until they came around campus and chased us out. Took me an hour to drive the usual fifteen minutes to get my kids from school. I had about seven kids in my house because their parents couldn't get home. And that was my day. It doesn't sound like much, but I have never been so scared in my life, before or since.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
And that was my day. It doesn't sound like much, but I have never been so scared in my life, before or since.

No, JW... That sounds like a whole lot.  This was surreal even out here in LA -- I can't even imagine how <adjective not yet invented> it must have been for folks like you living at the heart of the chaos.  Not juts the day of the tragedy, but the months that followed as your suddenly incomplete city was a jangle of nerves.

Anyway... Probably enough said about that... But JW, applause for channeling the destruction of it all into creation.

As for the media... I recall some 20/20 show with John Stossel (?) reporting on media sensationalism.  I think it was 4 or 5 summers ago that shark attacks were grabbing all the headlines.  It seemed as though an epidemic was at hand, but studies later showed that shark attack incidents that summer were about 1/3 of what they were the year before.  Yet beachgoers everywhere were suddenly in a salt-water panic over this.

The media can create a climate of fear like no other institution.  How many times have you ever been casually watching TV, when along comes a commercial for the late local news, and the anchor-person looks earnestly into the camera and says something like, "Apples!  Can they kill you?  Details at eleven."

OK, this is far too much writing before coffee.  Oddly enough, yesterday the LA Times told me not to drink coffee in this heat.  It'll apparently dry me out.

So... wish me luck here!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 02, 2007, 11:06:41 AM
Hi, this is my first visit to the tavern....don't usually drink this early, but wanted to stop in and say Hi y'all. Just wanted to ask are there any dancers here?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2007, 11:17:39 AM
Of the male or female variety?  Because if Audal starts pealing off his hat and chaps, I'm outa here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 11:20:12 AM
Of the male or female variety?  Because if Audal starts pealing off his hat and chaps, I'm outa here.

Please!  If this happens, I'd like to think you all would throw me outta here!

Unless it's "Come Sail Away."  Then I'm allowed to dance as I see fit - for ol' times sake.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2007, 11:23:04 AM

Unless it's "Come Sail Away."  Then I'm allowed to dance as I see fit - for ol' times sake.


I know what you're thinking, and don't no one put a quarter in that jukebox!  I don't bring out the guns too often, but in this case...   :draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 11:24:39 AM
Hi, Kay..beware of these guys...Don't get them started!

Oh, and Aud, that shark summer? That was right before 9-11...and I remember thinking what a crock it was.

We did have jangled nerves and then there was that anthrax thing. Don't think we got back to "normal" ( a relative term in NYC) until fall 2002. And just as we were all started to feel better, Mr. Bush put an end to that...but never mind.

Oy...imagine a loopy cowboay waltzing (alone) across the dance floor to Come Sail Away...I'll be firing right alongside you Patrick! Little beebee pellets..right at that silly hat.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 11:29:10 AM
Geez.  Y'all trying to stage a musical mutiny on me & deprive me of my most excellent Junior High moment found way back yonder in Tavern post #272?  And then followed by Mel's equally riotous story at #273?

Are you trying to erase our glorious Tavern history or something?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2007, 11:31:38 AM
No, just worried you'd start dancing, get out of control, and then I'd have to poke out my eyes with something blunt.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2007, 11:32:21 AM
You can play the song, but only if you promise to behave yourself.  Don't make us tie you to a chair, again.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 11:44:47 AM
Maybe I'll play the song some other time.  Right now, it's too expected of me to do so.

Plus, I gotta warm up the pipes but good for CSA.  Couple glass-shattering/dogs-weeping high notes in there.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 02, 2007, 11:48:57 AM
No, just worried you'd start dancing, get out of control, and then I'd have to poke out my eyes with something blunt.
your eyes poked out, my ears bleeding into permanent deafness...Styx is one powerful band!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: MelanieLane on September 02, 2007, 11:52:55 AM
Styx is my FAVORITE band.

:draw:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 02, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
melanie, are you serious?   are they still performing and recording?  i thought they disbanded in the early 80s.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 12:45:51 PM
OY..that's another one of THOSE 80s bands. hey, Mel..do you like Blue Oyster Cult? My friend was in a band (now defunct) with their drummer.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 02, 2007, 12:55:21 PM
oh, no, JW - they were very 70s... someone brought their newest album to my 16th birthday party...sigh.  i did NOT fit into white, 70s suburbs!

it's funny just how the mention of these bands makes my skin crawl - i had a friend, my age, who grew up in WV and she HATED country western music with such vengeance it nearly took my breath away.  i mean, i'm not a fan, either, but the ANGER she felt toward those bands... then she pointed out i felt the same way about the music that was shoved down my throat, music she could take or leave... i suppose snoop dogg et al will the be revulsion of many of the 90s' generation...

it's a shame that the vibrant cross-genre vibe of the 60s was so short-lived.  you could find just about anything you'd like on the radio back then.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 01:21:16 PM
Guess that was late 70s. The music was pretty great right up to 1976..when the 60s really ended and so did my childhood. Off to college, disco, punk...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 02, 2007, 01:36:18 PM
Wow, this place is really dead today, ain't it?  I guess everyone else is out enjoying their 3 day weekends.  Why aren't you?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 02, 2007, 01:48:28 PM
job hunting... it's a 24hr job, thanks to the internet....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 02, 2007, 03:00:22 PM
Y'all trying to stage a musical mutiny on me & deprive me of my most excellent Junior High moment found way back yonder in Tavern post #272?  And then followed by Mel's equally riotous story at #273?

I like how you so conveniently know exactly what happened on each post #... :rolleyes: must be your duty as the tavern keeper.  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 02, 2007, 03:16:22 PM
Looks I'm the only one online today...so what havoc shalt I wreak?
 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
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like how you so conveniently know exactly what happened on each post #...  must be your duty as the tavern keeper.

Freaky, ain't it. Get the feeling he's keeping tabs on ALL of us just in case he needs some leverage?

And no, Patrick..I had all my fun. It's over and done. I was doing laundry at the local redneck laundromat. Fortunately all the locals decided to have fun themselves and stayed away. And I brought my laptop (no wi-fi there! and wrote a bit). But now I'm going to got to the lake one last time. Boo-hoo.

Good luck job-hunting JJ!!!

Wreak some good havoc, Chelc..i'll join you later..in between packing and cleaning.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 02, 2007, 07:35:28 PM
Hey all.

  Vodka on the rocks.  If this joint serves food, I'll take chips some guacamole and a margarita.

  Won't be able to stay long. Going to watch a movie with the family.

  Chelc--left you a post in ( I think) the fiction section.


   Coll
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 07:41:02 PM
Hey Coll...

Try this - our top secret cocktail hybrid called the Vodka-rita.  Has all the ingredients requested and tastes better than it sounds (yup, just trust the barkeep, always a smart idea).

Plus, these things always make any movie five times more funny than it already is. 

Unless it's a sad movie, then it makes the whole drama five times more >  :cry:

I'll be sure to help steer Chelc to your post.  Smart move leaving her a message on the Tavern bulletin board.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 02, 2007, 07:50:21 PM
So the youngin' is a big drinker?

Of knowledge, I mean.


Coll :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 02, 2007, 08:57:50 PM
 :rof3:
yup, that's me  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 02, 2007, 09:08:59 PM
It can't be dead in here.  I just got here!

Or maybe it was dead because I wasn't around?  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 09:29:39 PM
whoops, Lege, looks like you cleared out the place!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 02, 2007, 09:37:38 PM
I would never!

I took my monthly shower yesterday and everything!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 02, 2007, 09:52:12 PM
Maybe it's that aftershave you're using, then.  ;)
Just kidding..guess some people have a LIFE. Actually we went out to a nice dinner and now we're back.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 02, 2007, 10:03:56 PM
I was just thinking about dinner.  Then I realized it was approaching midnight.  I think I forgot about the whole eating thing. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 02, 2007, 10:34:10 PM
Taven customers, lined up along bar >  :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

barkeep, having borrowed deputy's wake-up toy >  :draw: BANG! :draw: BANG! :draw: BANG!  :draw: BANG! 

Wake your sorry a :censored: up, varmints!

Sheesh.  Like a morgue in here.  I wonder if it's cause I just put bulletholes in everyone?

My bad.

I'm taking a WIP break.  If I don't, the WIP is gonna get itself a bullethole and a stone readin' RIP.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 03, 2007, 08:50:58 AM
Morn'in y'all. How come nobody's here or everybody is passed out when I get here? Maybe it's my southern time zone or something. Reckon I'll get back to work, it is a little to early for for a tequila sunrise.... ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 03, 2007, 09:03:37 AM
Everyone's sleeping off the weekend.  Holiday and all that. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 10:46:00 AM
Hi...Strong cup of joe, please..Oh, well it is um, almost noon for me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 10:47:22 AM
Good morning, jw.  Please pass the sugar.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 10:52:35 AM
One lump or ten...on the head or in the cup? Please kick me out of here...i have SO much to do.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 10:53:48 AM
Oh, you thought I meant sweetener?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 10:57:26 AM
What..you trying on your new "bad boy" image? HA-HA!!!  :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 10:58:46 AM
 :shy1: Did it work?  Do I need more leather?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 11:06:07 AM
Maybe it's my southern time zone or something.

Oh great.  Just great.  I finally master the whole Eastern/Central/Mountain/Pacific thing, and now our govenment's added a Southern time zone?!

I need a drink.  At 9:06AM Pacific Standard Time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 11:23:54 AM
The Southern time zone is just a state of mind I think. They don't want to be lumped in with us fast talking Northern types.

And yeah...you'd better get used to an early bird schedule, dude, or scare up some more west coast patrons if you want any customers in your bar. After 9PM Pacific time (that's 12 AM my time) I'm not going to be in this place.

Tomorrow real life begins again for me.  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

So pour me a VAT of apple martinis please. Actually just pour it right on me...(and no kinky comments from the leather-clad peanut gallery please).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 03, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Happy labor day  ;D
My family is going on our boat soon, so someone want to get me an iced mocha quick?
Thanks to JW, the tavern has made it to its 1000 post!  :eek:
(now I just ruined the occasion by making it 1001)
And you know how you aren't supposed to wear white after labor day? Well, can you wear it on labor day?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 11:52:16 AM
One iced-mocha, comin' up! 

Don't worry - if you're already out on the water, I'll have it zapped to you there.  That's whatcha' get with your Tavern VIP card!

And yeah, Happy Labor Day!  Let's all honor it by laboriously laboring on that labor of so-called love we call writing?

You can wear white after Labor Day.  It makes a statment.

JW - I imagine that I'll sort of welcome a quieter post-labor day tavern.  Or at least my novel will welcome the extra attention.  And for you, also a proud Tavern card-carrier, a full vat of apple martinis... and a complimentary map to all hospitals in your neighborhood!  And congrats on beting our 1,000th "customer!"  (Nice catch, Chelc.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 11:54:21 AM
th-thanks...gllllluggggg...

:ho:
      :faint:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 12:00:55 PM
th-thanks...gllllluggggg...

:ho:
      :faint:

Ugh.  Then again, it is your last day before real life begins, so I suppose another vat would be OK.  Don't worry, we'll just scoop you up off the floor and toss you into it!  :wine:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
1000 posts.  Wow!  Thats 627 songs played on the jukebox, 582 drinks served, and 214 sexual innuendos. (Oh, and 2 posts about actual writing.)  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 12:14:36 PM
1000 posts.  Wow!  Thats 627 songs played on the jukebox, 582 drinks served, and 214 sexual innuendos. (Oh, and 2 posts about actual writing.)  ;D

Or... <pulls up stats sheet>

Damn near 20% of all forum posts!

Don't fret - that just means we're 80% business (at least in my book - see here's me in my book> :read: )
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 12:25:21 PM

Damn near 20% of all forum posts!


..and climbing
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 03, 2007, 12:52:57 PM
Listen, as far as I'm concerned, anyplace I can get distracted from getting rejected is worthwhile. Impersonla form Rejection #24 just came in..TODAY. So pour another vat over my head, just make it a Cosmo this time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 03, 2007, 12:59:39 PM
jw, don't forget to record that rejection, and take a look at this http://querytracker.net/forum/index.php?topic=264.0

Now you can flag that rejection as either an impersonal form letter, or a personal message.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 01:00:00 PM
Are you sure you wanna be mixing fictional liquor like that?

Keep on' keepin' on, JW.  24 rejections means you're just gettin' started, right?  (started querying, I mean)

My mountain this week: I'm trying to keep my chapters at about 4,000 words.  So what does it say when I am suddenly looking at a 1,500 word outline for my current chapter?! 

I'm hoping it means I've already done a lot of the work...

But I'm fearing an 8,000 word chapter.  Not that there's a rule against this, but I certainly have an eye on kicking tail within the first 50 pages/three chapters.  8K will disrupt my master plan.

Hee hee.  I just said master plan as though I actually have one!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 03, 2007, 03:39:28 PM
I'm trying to get through revising my query, and a stiff drink is the only thing that will keep me going. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 03, 2007, 04:26:33 PM
Everytime I reread my manuscript I find myself changing it around or adding to it. I think I'll have a couple of stiff ones ( drinksthat is) before I reread again. Maybe I should think about editing. HAHA :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 03, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
Wow.  Who hung a [CLOSED FOR THE HOLIDAY] sign on the tavern doors?

Or all we all just plum talked out after 1,000+ posts?

Don't make me pull out one of the all-time power ballads...
I'm warning you...
Seriously, just don't...

yup, now you've done it.

 :band:  If I leave here tomorrow
would you still remember me
So I must be travelin' on now
there's too many places I've got to see...


 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

What's that?  Power ballad encore?

n'K.

 :band:  Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from another you been messin’ around


 :clap:  :'( :clap: :'( :clap:  :cry:

You folks really shouldn't leave me all alone in this place.

Best of luck to all teachers & students who are startin' various school endeavors this week.  Tavern days will be a lot more empty without y'all.  Of course my novel may actually get written before 2008... small consolation, of course. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 03, 2007, 11:58:55 PM
Naptime over.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 01:35:10 AM
Where is everybody? Here I am again and the joints empty. It's not a good thing for use southern girls to drink alone. I got the whole place to dance in so audal you keep them tunes a cumin. :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :toast: pour me another tequila shot
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 06:12:02 AM
So far I've survived life re-entry..still got to get the kid to school and myself to work.. I'll keep you "posted"...no drinking today except perhaps a vat of coffee.

It's noisy and hot in this damn city..darn, i miss those cows.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 04, 2007, 07:40:04 AM
I have two days off, and I think I've finished the revised query.  Posted in the Query Review forum if anyone wants to take a look. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 09:49:31 AM
morn'in y'all. :ban: I like this one, cause I used to be a dancer before I got serious about my writing.
                                                     :ban: :dance: :taz: :sorry: was that to much information(dancer)

I need some coffee
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 09:52:10 AM
It's really amazing how the jukebox in this joint has every song imaginable.  I've looked and looked and can't stump it.  Must be digital.

But here's one I think we can all relate to.  In fact I nominate it as our theme song.


 :band: Dear Sir or madam, will you read my book?
It took me years to write, will you take a look?
It's based on a novel by a man named Lear
And I need a job so I want to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer!

If you really like it you can have the rights
It could make a million for you overnight
If you must return it you can send it here
But I need a break and I want to be a paperback writer
Paperback writer!


(Sounds like it belongs in our World's Worst Query Letter section.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 09:55:33 AM
So does "Paperback" writer sound like someone in the Beatles was familiar with the query process?  What do you think inspired them to write a song like this?



Not too much info, kay.  Unless you were actually a dancing banana, then I don't want to know  :wink: (Actually, now I'm curious.  Were you a dancing banana?)


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 10:11:54 AM
So does "Paperback" writer sound like someone in the Beatles was familiar with the query process?  What do you think inspired them to write a song like this?

I think maybe they smoked one two many bananas. :censored:

Not too much info, kay.  Unless you were actually a dancing banana, then I don't want to know  :wink: (Actually, now I'm curious.  Were you a dancing banana?)
You would think you were a piece of fruit by the way the patrons would ogoogle you at times, it paid better than writing has so far.  :inocent:



Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
hey Patrick when do I get to be a person or even get a head  :inocent: or something? I feel as though I'm invisible or something. I don't know all the rules to this sort of thing. You know the avatars and that. Just for the record I like the Beatles :woo: :p2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 10:31:01 AM
You have to have 25 posts (which you do) then you can select an avatar from our list.  When you reach 50 posts you can upload any picture you want.

Here is how to do it:
Go to "Profile" located on the menu near the top of the page.
Then on the left-side menu you should see a link for "Forum Profile Information"  click that
Then you should see a box labeled "Personalized Picture:" You can pick a picture from this box, then scroll all the way down and click "Change Profile"

If you need any help, let me know.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 10:52:17 AM
Thanks I'll get right on that task :hooray: :woo: :ban: :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 11:00:13 AM
Very creative smiley usage, Kay. That coffee really works..I'm just sneaking in here while my students toe the line... :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 11:17:39 AM
So does "Paperback" writer sound like someone in the Beatles was familiar with the query process? 

HI-larious!!

I'll go one further... I think the lyrics are actually the query letter we should send to that scam joint WL Writers Agency!

Of course I nominate anyone other than me to try it.

And is it me, or does JW's quick tavern stop during school hours seem on par with that sneaky teacher who keeps a full flask hidden in their desk?!

Did we hire dancers while I was away?  Never mind.  Don't wanna know.  Looking the other way...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 12:07:25 PM
 :ban: look I'm somebody!!!  :ban: :ban: can I  get a drink over here or I just might be forced to just jump up on the bar  (virtually) and start to  :y: :ban: to get a little service  :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 04, 2007, 12:12:36 PM
Hey, it can't hurt.  And just imagine the influx on your karma.

Nothing says loving like karma in the waistband.  (Well, it used to be dollar bills, but we're PG-13 round here and all). :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 12:24:20 PM
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And is it me, or does JW's quick tavern stop during school hours seem on par with that sneaky teacher who keeps a full flask hidden in their desk?!

Hee-hee...here I am! My students are trying to design there own logos and I'm like, nope  :no: , nope  :no: , nope  :no:..

Gotta go see if anyone's gotten anywhere. I'm online all the time here...I use the internet to teach, and I can't tell you how manay times I find them on myspace or other forums. I don't really care, s long as the work gets done.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 12:45:26 PM
 :ban: karma is good for me  :ban: I think I am getting up the nerve to post the first five pages of my manuscript. I said I think I am. I had one rejection so far and believe me I  :'( ,but I am past that.  :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 04, 2007, 12:55:30 PM
You should definitely post it. :)

I've got fifteen rejections so far, and I think I'm getting back into the desire to get a whole bunch more.  Must be, because I started using the feedback I got on my query so far, and started querying again a little while ago.

Must get through those 54 agents I planned on querying to. 

But yes, post the first five pages.  Everyone's very helpful here, so you'll definitely get some good feedback.  And just think of it this way (the way someone said to me): no one ever gets signed off their first query letter.  So now that that's out of the way, you're set to move forward.  And you're now one query letter closer to getting signed to an agent.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 04, 2007, 01:30:56 PM
 :ban: thanks for the encouragement, I was feel'in a little down about the whole rejection thing. I say I'm past it but it still stings a  bit. :wine: :shower: :v: I think I need a pick me up song :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 02:55:39 PM
(Well, it used to be dollar bills, but we're PG-13 round here and all)

It also used to be PG-13... But I think today's bartop flashdancing has upped it to at least PG-15.

I also think I may have to institute a cover charge.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 04, 2007, 03:33:50 PM
With all proceeds going to the Future Taxidermists Society?  Since we're mounting heads on the wall every few days and all.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 03:58:42 PM
I think the taxidermists do a fine enough job as amateurs.  Then again, maybe they could use a financial boost since Loth & I are STILL without any female company up here on the mantel!

However, I think our cover charge cash might be better spent on the BALA Fund (That's be Bribe-A-Literary-Agent).  Nothin' grabs attention like enclosing a hundred dollar bill in with the query letter.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 04:08:19 PM
Weeeelllll
that was an interesting first day of school...
Well, it wasn't my official first day, only freshmen go for "freshmen orientation" and they get tours around the school. So my friends and I volunteered to be tour guides, and wow, the freshmen are ridiculously immature!
But we got to eat (melting) ice cream all day and they didn't  ;D ;D
It's crazy hot out today, so I'd like a tall order of ice water!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 04:17:46 PM
wow, the freshmen are ridiculously immature!
But we got to eat (melting) ice cream all day and they didn't  ;D ;D

C'mon now... shouldn't a mature junior like yourself have stepped up and offered the poor underlings some ice cream?

Wait - what flavor?  'Cause that changes everything.

Crazy hot in LA today, too.  88 degrees and climbing.  Blech.  I can't think in the heat.

Taking a vote: Who wants me to turn the tavern sprinkler system loose?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 04:19:44 PM
Oh, and I snuck into the computer pod today at school and checked to see if QT is blocked, but it isn't  ;D So I'll probably log on here when I'm supposed to be doing research papers  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Aud: the freshies got their ice cream at the end of the day...the upper classmen/ tour guides just ate 3.5 containers when we weren't doing anything (and there were only about 15 of us)  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 04:25:00 PM
Too funny.  JW also reported from the classroom today.

Obviously we should worry about such addictions.

If I ate that much ice cream in a day, my stomach would digest itself from the inside out.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 04:27:10 PM
Ahhh but I haven't had ice cream in...a year?
Yeah, amazing! But no goofing off tomorrow  :( the real school year begins...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 04:33:30 PM
OK, got it, no goofing off.  Excellent plan.  I'll be sure not to respond to any frootloop-posts that may pop up during the school day.  Don't want you slackin'.  Gotta keep those grades up - the chance to be Lorrie Moore's star pupil is at stake here, so no messin' around!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
Hiya...too brain dead to be humorous or even imbibe, but just wanted to check in. Hope your day goes well tomorrow, Chelc. I'm hot and my apart looks like there was a bar brawl in here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 04:37:36 PM
Yeah, isn't it nice to be carefree adults who don't have to worry about school and grades and all that junk.  How nice and easy this life is...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 04:51:57 PM
How nice and easy this life is...

Beg pardon?

Which life are you leading?

Karma for the new avatar, btw.  Or is that just JW's photoshop surgery on a real pic?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 04, 2007, 05:06:54 PM
Yeah, between having to work to pay the bills, keep the appliances running, dealing with things like taxes and such totally is worth it.

I'd hate to have to go back to school and not have any responsibilities. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 04, 2007, 05:21:14 PM
the grass is always greener - the pressure of being a student, facing the uncertainty of life after graduation is nearly unbearable.  i'm watching my 22yo son do it now, and i work with 16 and 17yos trying to juggle school, extra curriculars, social  life, family life AND get into college and think, 'even unemployment and possible foreclosure is better than that!'

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 05:28:46 PM
Oh yes...and my students have to worry about both school, making ends meet and some of them even have kids.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 05:37:22 PM
Well, I don't think visiting her during the school will affect my grades much...it's not like I don't already good off when "working" anyway. And I've still got an almost perfect 4.0, so I'm not worried. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 06:02:44 PM
This was me just on the phone talking with a Verizon automated system.

English.
Billing.
No.
No.
Billing.
No.
BILL.  LING.
No.
Operator.
GOOD GOD WOMAN - BILLING!!!
Yes.
Billing.
Operator.
Operator Operator Operator Operator Operator Operator Operator!

Please hold and your call will be transferred to the next available operator.

(waits as she-android voice gives me updates)

Your call will be answered in 6 minutes.
Your call will be answered in 4 minutes.
Your call will be answered in 2 minutes.
Your call will be answered in 6 minutes.
Your call will be answered in 4 minutes.
Your call will be answered in 6 minutes.


 :bonk: :bonk: :bonk:

(8 minutes later, a phone rings.  And rings and rings and rings and rings)

"Verizon tech support, how may I help you?"
"This isn't billing?"
"No it's not, would you like me to transfer you to billing?"
"Absolutely!"
"Please hold."
"Nothing I'd rather do more, thank you!"

 :bang: :bang: :bang:

10 minutes later, after breaking through a tough language barrier with a poor man who wanted to help but seemed puzzled, I am lucky I'm not off-line.

The trials I endure to stay in touch with you lunatics!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 06:18:45 PM
Follow only if ye be men of valor!!  Thanks for enduring the trials to stay with us, and I hope you one day find the cave of Caerbannog!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 07:55:22 PM
Okay, apparently I stumbled into the opium den. Phew, the smoke in here is so thick you can chew it.
Which way to the tapas bar? It's still happy hour on the west coast, right?
Happy, happy..that's me!  :ho:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 07:59:56 PM
Why so happy?  Classes over?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 08:19:24 PM
Facetious, I was. Note smiley:  :ho:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 08:37:51 PM
I'm still telling the story of my call to Verizon - which is much funnier out loud!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 08:58:53 PM
It's still funny, Aud!  And infuriating at the same time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 09:02:21 PM
Ahhh shoot, I wanted to be asleep in a 1/2 hour...fat chance of that! I can't pull myself away from this place!!!
must...get...sleep...
 :faint:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 09:05:29 PM
You want me to be mean to you so that you will go to sleep?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 09:06:57 PM
Yeah, that might be good. I didn't fall asleep until midnight last night and woke up at 5. I had to have a lot of coffee this morning in order to walk straight  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 09:07:55 PM
It's still funny, Aud!  And infuriating at the same time.

On stage, I excel when I get to the lines "Bill. Ling." and "OperatorOperatorOperatorOperatorOperator!!!!"

First day of school, and already we're ruining our prize student.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
I was hoping you would say no.  Sorry, I can't be mean to you.  It's just not in my nature.  
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 09:09:54 PM
They NEED to be ruined!  Society's idea of being ruined is actually what will save the world!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 09:11:31 PM
Sounds vaguely apocalyptic.

Then again, you're preparing for the QT Revolution...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 09:16:15 PM
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!! :draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 09:19:04 PM
Well, considering my avatar appearance, who am I to argue!

VIVA LA REVOLUCION! (from the mantel)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 04, 2007, 09:21:22 PM
GAH! It's 9:20! I am doomed to no sleep (what's new?)
Put I can't pull myself away from the computer!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 09:31:08 PM
Well, i see you succeeded.  Good for you.  Another round for the adults, barkeep!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 09:36:11 PM
I'm still very upset over the whole spam thing.  I hope it didn't get seen by too many people.

I turned on email verification for new members, so as to make it a little harder for the spammers to join.  But it's just a small hurdle.  If it continues I will have to turn off the image uploading ability, which will make it difficult for legit members to share pics.  I'll look for another solution until then.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 09:45:19 PM
If it makes you feel any better, I kept a sharp eye on forum activity during the few unfortunate minutes... and it seemed like I was the only one posting.  Sometimes just posting a single character and moving on to repeat again and again.

Email verification may be a big enough hurdle... But I did notice that the dude put in an email address in his profile.  Something.ru, which I suppose is a Russian domain.

Two words, Russian Dude:  LAKE.  PLACID.

Anyway, I'd say with 99% certainty that no damage was done today.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 09:53:27 PM
In honor of all the hard work performed by Aud to protect us from this vicious spammer, I have promoted him to the lofty and honored roll of "Moderator."

Now if those pesky spammers return, Aud can just delete them.  Hopefully, between Loth, Aud, and I, we can remove their posts faster than they can post them.

Thanks Aud for taking on this responsibility.  Karma comin' at ya.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:02:25 PM
WOO-HOO!!!  :award: :cheer: :ban: :woo: and most definitely,  :woot:

(raises right hand & puts left hand on WIP)

I pledge allegience
to the woot
of the united fight against spam
And to the republic
of QT Land
With artistic liberty
And agents
For all.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 10:04:55 PM
Welcome to the Upper Echelons.  Don't let the power go to your head!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:14:31 PM
Welcome to the Upper Echelons.  Don't let the power go to your head!!

says the man who was recently signing off with  :kneel: ?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 10:15:54 PM
Shoot!  I can't even delete you for that anymore...   :rant:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 10:25:47 PM
You guys have lost me...what spam, what pictures..what, what WHAT? ??? ??? ???..I'm so out of the loop. This loop moves too fast!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 04, 2007, 10:29:01 PM
Some spammer joined this afternoon and posted some porn.  At least I'm told it was porn, I didn't get a chance to see it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:30:19 PM
JW - The very fact you have no idea tells me my fight-for-decency was a success!

QT got hit by very bad spam stuff.  I saw it.  It was porn.  Yup.  No doubt.

Moving on...

go to Chelc's "HEY" thread about her play -- I'd love to get your take on the sitch!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 10:32:30 PM
I killed him and banned him and smashed him and then deleted him.  But I was at a disadvantage because something in the way the forum was setup wouldn't let me see that board.  Thanks to Pat for fixing that, and Audal for being my seeing eyed dog as I blindly deleted.  You have the power now, my friend!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
Wooo...And we thought Billy was the wild guy. Good going, Aud...you're now an official QT sheriff and watch-cowboy. Maybe I need to make you a nice shiny badge...I would
                             but  :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:35:21 PM
You have the power now, my friend!

Good God - it's TRUE!  My right hand is beginning to glow and I think I might be levitating!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 04, 2007, 10:36:39 PM
Wow, I disappear for a day or two and it's amazing what I miss.  And here I have 4 critques to do, 10 loads of laundry to fold, dishes to do, I haven't exercised in the last 6 years, and yet here I am with you all.  Ah, what can I say, just can't get enough!   :hearts:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 04, 2007, 10:37:02 PM
I had my first day of school today, and I really really don't think that I'll be able to post for a long time. Today there wasn't much homework, but what I'm looking at in the future is quite bleak. So ... between homework, extra cirriculars, and trying to squeeze in a few minutes here and there for writing my book, I have to stop posting at least until the next vacation.

 :'( I'm going to miss you guys!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 10:40:13 PM
Quote
'd love to get your take on the sitch!

I love that word sitch! I tried to use it in an ms and I got bonked by my crit-mates for it.

I don't really have a good answer on this since I was never a drama type (I reserve that for real life). It does seem unfair. Maybe Chelc can express her concern over this in a proactive way without ruffling feathers. I don't think it would be a good idea to upset the drama coach. This all sounds a bit like High School Musical to me (Chelc hates that!) Politics, politics...gotta play the game sometime. These drama things seem to operate like kingdoms.

Night-night...I'll check in during class..but not that much. The class tomorrow, I actually have to TEACH. Can you imagine?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 04, 2007, 10:42:39 PM
Aww..Dan...they do let you off on the weekends, don't they?
And look at me..I really, really gotta go to bed....

Hi, Elk...I feel your pain. You should see what my apartment looks like. pffffffftttttt.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:48:06 PM
Wait - did Dan step into the Tavern?  I thought the view from outside the window always scared him off!

Well, school is indeed in swing now.  We can tell by the drop in posts-per-day.  Of course, us oldies wish you all colors of success for the year ahead... and do stop by if you find a free few moments!

Sitch is suc a great YA word.  Tell your crit mates to, like, stuff it.

You're right - it wouldn't be wise for Chelc to tweak the Drama Teacher.  But she does have equality & ethics issues on her side here.  Maybe it won't matter... she'll pull of the upset & dethrone the dreaded Drama Mama.  Nevertheless, it just ain't right.

Where's Joan?  She'll lay a proper beatdown on the sitch!

And JW - do I have to tranquilize your next drink?  Go.  To.  Bed.

You have to obey me now.  I'm a moderator ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 04, 2007, 10:51:47 PM
All right, I really need to get to those crits or I'm going to get kicked out of the group and I haven't touched my own WIP for days now.  Ah well, I'll stop by tomorrow and see what other bombshells I've missed.   ;D  goodnight all!!

Oh, and congrats aud!!   :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 04, 2007, 10:58:32 PM
Thanks, Elkette!

So you'll know, I've also neglected the WIP for a couple days.  Of course the crusade against filth does take a lot out of a guy ;D .

Anyway... I now must also decompress by turning from the computer screen to the TV screen.  Addicted to this quirky little show on the SciFi channel called Eureka.  Anyone?

Anyone?

Bueller?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 04, 2007, 11:09:55 PM
Heard of it, but never seen it.  I'm addicted to Charmed - watch the reruns every chance I get.  And now, seriously, I am going to read those crits   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 04, 2007, 11:35:07 PM
Working on the third season of House, myself.  Love that show.  Night all, see you on the morrow.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 05, 2007, 12:04:27 AM
I'm addicted to Charmed - watch the reruns every chance I get. 

Must say, I've seen a few episodes of Charmed over the years.

For the plot lines, of course.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 12:15:36 AM
Plot lines, plot holes.  Whichever you prefer. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 12:31:46 AM
Hey, don't knock Charmed   >:(  Come on, 3 sexy women, with hot guys, who kick evil's butt every day and still manage to juggle kids, work, and look great while doing it?  It may not be realistic, but that's why I like it   ;D  Plus, I have a serious crush on Julian McMahon, so I tend to watch the episodes with him more   :emb2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 12:38:29 AM
speaking of Charmed (and seeing how I am the only one in here!)   :)  I have 2 episodes on my DVR that I think I will go watch.  Night all!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 12:44:09 AM
I had a crush on Drew Fuller, so I can't exactly argue that logic.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 08:47:40 AM
You guys have lost me...what spam, what pictures..what, what WHAT? ??? ??? ???..I'm so out of the loop. This loop moves too fast!

i saw it - and am yet again amazed at male sexuality - the pictures were... gross, honestly, nearly clinical (i think medical stuff is gross) and... ick.  honestly, i'm not a prude, but i can't see how that would turn on anyone, but then, i think the concept of 'lap dance' is hilarious, so.... male, I am not!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 05, 2007, 09:14:29 AM
 :ban: porn what porn? I missed it. I must of had too much to drink or something. That's me, always on the outside looking in, ha :poke:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 09:32:20 AM

i saw it - and am yet again amazed at male sexuality - the pictures were... gross, honestly, nearly clinical (i think medical stuff is gross) and... ick.  honestly, i'm not a prude, but i can't see how that would turn on anyone, but then, i think the concept of 'lap dance' is hilarious, so.... male, I am not!


We're not all sickos like that.  Some of us like only the good, classy porn.  You know, the wholesome stuff.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:37:48 AM
'wholesome stuff' *snort* 

Just saw 'The Notorious Bettie Page' and would highly recommend it... in fact, she WAS quite wholesome, despite the bondage stuff...so, i guess i shouldn't laugh, huh?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
Notorious Bettie?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:47:24 AM
yup, The Notorious Bettie Page.  couldn't make that up if i tried.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 09:52:47 AM
Sure you could. You're a writer, remember.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 01:35:53 PM
I had a crush on Drew Fuller, so I can't exactly argue that logic.


Ooo, he's cute too.  And so is Brian Krause.  See what I mean, full of hot guys   :naughty:  Now that is a fantasy world I want to escape to every now and then   :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 05, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
Oh dear Lord -- a celebrity crush sub-thread here in the Tavern!

I don't think I have the time (read: three hours) to compile such a list...

But Rose McGowan wins the battle of the sisters Halliwell.  All I'm sayin'.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 02:15:18 PM
No words necessary. Damn!  I used words...  Stupid writers...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 03:21:37 PM
Oh look what becomes of this place when I'm gone..tsk, tsk...porn and crushes?

Quote
You have to obey me now.  I'm a moderator

And I'M the photoshop queen...ahem.

So now how do we commemorate my 25th rejection? Do I get a special prize? Consolation karma?
I think I'd better lay off the hard stuff for now.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 03:39:34 PM
25?  I'm so jealous!  I've only got 17 so far.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 03:50:04 PM
And are all your critmates getting requests for fulls and having lunch with prospective agents? Four of my critmates in a group of six are getting very close. One hasn't queried yet. That leaves me, the biggest loser.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 04:49:04 PM
Well, you're getting close to a thousand posts on the forum.  That should mean something, right??  Besides, loser is a relative term.  None of them are published yet.  And when they do get published, you will have an in with their agent!  Bonus!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 04:54:42 PM
Thanks...I know. I'm a frequent whiner. Do I get frequent whiner miles? I have three pals with agents, two whom already have book deals, a good friend who is an editor at a major publishing house and yet...all it's gotten me so far is a very nice slightly more personalized rejection letter from one agent. (he's rejected me twice). Okay..it's Stephen Barbara, i confess. I hope to meet him at the SCBWI conference in three weeks. I'm sure given how much he loves his client (my friend) and how much I've helped her on the book he sold for her (she admits it outright), he might at least talk to me a bit and give me some pearls of wisdom.

Okay..I think a pitcher of sangria is in order, since I'm such a major whiner.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 06:19:32 PM
I believe the bartender is in!  Sangria, all around!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 06:20:43 PM
Sangria?  Sweeter words were never uttered.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 05, 2007, 06:27:23 PM
Well, I won't even bother catching up in here, but first day of school is over and play try outs were great so gimme something non-alcoholic!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 05, 2007, 06:34:05 PM
The bartender is in & out today as he scrambles to fix the damage my internet provider did to my email address last night.   They effectively destroyed my old address & I can't get it back... so now I have to gently write the agents with partials and a full & let 'em know my new contact info without sounding like I'm asking for an update.

It's been an irritating Wednesday.

Sangria... virgin pina coladas... Marga-liters... all with extra punch tonight!

Oh - and back to the rejection tally... If it makes you feel better JW & Lege, I lost count at about the sum total of the two of you!

by the way, nice work with the audition, hotshot...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
Yeah, I quit counting the rejections, although with Query Tracker it will be easy from now on!  :up:  I want a Long Island Iced Tea the size of Long Island.  I don't know if I shared with you guys what my day job is, but as I write this charming little missive, I am looking down over the heads of 49 charming minimum-security county jail inmates.  If you even think you've had a frustration headache, you've had nothing until you've dealt with these guys for eight hours at a time.  Anyone on the forum even been in jail?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 06:45:03 PM
At least you can tasser someone now and then for fun.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 05, 2007, 06:50:18 PM
Anyone on the forum even been in jail?

Ooh!  We should have a QT jail!

Wait -- we don't have any laws here.  Never mind.

I'm an honest law-abiding citizen  :inocent: who was once tossed in the clink as an 18 year-old for a few hours as a scare tactic.  Basically I held a party & 18 year-olds do not throw those kinds of parties.  I was tossed in a single-cell space in a small town police station for about 90 minutes. 

I learned I did not enjoy jail.  :no:

But I still threw parties :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 06:55:09 PM
Oh, Loth..that's ...yikes. What stories you can find, though. No?

Yeah..Sangria! I've only had it like, once. That stuff is amazing. Whoops..

Chelc, this was such a non- PG 13 day on here. But don't blame me..I was busy and found it like this (except the Sangria was my fault).
So how did the audition go. Did YOU get the PART? Wowie, if you did!


Jail, me? Eeek..I wouldn't last a second. I'm 5'1!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 06:56:02 PM
Going to jail is for people who get caught.

.....



I don't plan to get caught.     :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 05, 2007, 06:57:52 PM

So how did the audition go. Did YOU get the PART? Wowie, if you did!

tonight was the read through, try outs are next thurs. and friday. Then there'll be call backs a week after that.
I said this already but I WANT TO BE QUEEN!

a jail? naw
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 05, 2007, 07:08:04 PM
Gah! It's 7:06? I have homework! Jeesh, this place distracted me for an hour already.
Anybody want to read the ridiculous load of books I've got this semester for me? Maybe just a couple? Seriously! I can't do it by myself!  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 07:12:04 PM
There are some really good books on your list.  I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 05, 2007, 07:13:55 PM
But...but...there's too many!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 07:15:16 PM
That's what Cliff Notes are for   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
ELKETTE!!!  You're a WRITER!!  Never advocate Cliff's Notes!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 07:22:04 PM
But...but...there's too many!!

You don't have to read them all at once, right?  Though they might eat away at your forum time.  :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 05, 2007, 07:23:19 PM
I'm trying to write over here. 

Stop being interesting dangit.  Seriously.

Don't make me stomp my foot and throw a tantrum.  I can hold my breath for two minutes straight.  Don't think I won't. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 07:24:48 PM
Fine.  (Not being interesting)------------
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 07:26:13 PM
You find all the ranting and drivel interesting?  Sad.  Me, too.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 07:29:38 PM
It beats unpacking and organizing my life.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 07:56:03 PM
I know, I'm bad   >:D  But seriously, there are some "classics" I just couldn't make it through. 

And now, and change of topic (for me at least) my son just cracked his head open.  Ran smack into the corner of the counter and gave himself a nice hole right in his forehead.  Why do head wounds bleed so bad?  And why do they bleed harder the harder he cries?  Poor baby.  He is tucked up in my bed with a movie and a ScoobyDoo bandaid.  Luckily, I don't think it is deep enough to need stitches, and it only bleeds when he cries.  It was a mess though.  But I am so proud of myself!  The first time he cracked his head (jumping on the bed, falling off and hitting the nightstand) I freaked out and if my husband hadn't been home I'd have called an ambulance.  This time I was nice and calm, grabbed a wet rag and an ice pack, and took care of it all by myself   :clap:  My husband has been out of town and is on his way home tonight.  And my bro in law is spending the night too.  Why do bad things always happen when there is no time or help to take care of them?  And that is my babble for the evening.  As soon as the family gets here I will be relegated to hostess so I'm getting my daily injection of the Tavern now   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 08:16:11 PM
Painkiller Elixir for the young one's gaping headwound, bartender!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 08:19:18 PM
Ow! Poor baby. Sounds like you have an active one. I found my son standing on our dining room table just before he grabbed hold of the chandelier and made ready to swing. Okay, that was fourteen years ago, but he sure put me through the wringer.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 08:46:38 PM
Yes he is.  :'(  He is already up and running around again (and jumping on my bed...what is wrong with this kid!!)  and he is teaching his 2 year old sister to be the same way.  I can't wait until they start school  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 05, 2007, 08:47:42 PM
Ah, my hubby just called and should be home soon and my bro in law will be here any minute so I better get going for the night!  See ya all tomorrow!  Don't have too much fun without me!   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 08:53:45 PM
oh, a nice pitcher of something strong, barkeep, if you please.  i joined a book club - woohoo, i thought.  well, the first one is a steven king novel, and boy i don't like 1)pulp fiction 2) violence 3) torture 4)'hinted at' plots... AT ALL.  but, i wanna be a sport... well, after two young children being tortured and now the heroine having her breast pried off with a can opener, i put the thing down and am in need of serious distraction so i can attempt to sleep tonight.

and, i am a little annoyed - THIS was chosen after i expressed an extreme dislike of dean koontz, horror movies, anything with extreme non-comic violence in books or movies, explaining that i have nightmares FOR YEARS... i'm am a little annoyed.  of all the good books out there, STEVEN KING was chosen?

and, it wasn't written that well.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 08:56:48 PM
Ooohh, you're reading Lisey's Story!!  It's actually pretty good.  She gets to keep the breast, by the way...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 08:58:25 PM
And it's Ste "ph" en.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:00:54 PM
well, i'll take your word for it.  too many 'hints' about things for me to care anymore, and i'm so sick of the private language they shared i could scream and it is FAR too violent.  i really dislike steven king, 25 years after the last time I read anything by him.

at least i'm consistent.

i also got 'the curious incident of the dog who barked at midnight' or something like that.   I've been meaning to read it for years...has anyone else?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:01:43 PM
And it's Ste "ph" en.   ;D

yeah, well, i won't be looking him up in the card catalog anytime soon, so...who cares?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 09:15:07 PM
Well. That sounded a little bitter...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:20:47 PM
there were children being tortured... i'm traumatized.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
and, FURTHERMORE!... given these two facts:  1) the polish author's murder conviction and 2) the bestselling author is a homicidal maniac in this book, shouldn't someone be digging up Mr. King's back yard???

(lists soothe me)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 09:26:10 PM
I don't know if you'd want to see what they found in Mr. King's backyard.  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 05, 2007, 09:52:31 PM
probably a lot of dead cats.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 05, 2007, 10:06:51 PM
Get her a drink..or six..She's feisty tonight! I'm pretty certain Mr. King can write any old drivel and get it published at this point.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 05, 2007, 11:05:52 PM
Well , I took my son to the gym so he could work out( he is a boxer) he has a match coming up in a few weeks and when I get back I find some Stephen King bashing  :bash: going on and to your jail question Loth, I've been to jail....not once but twice.   The first time I was 16 and I was drunk and took my dad's car and wrecked it. The second time I was in a bar fight. So I spent about 8 hours in the county jail the first time then twenty-four hours the second time :innocent: What about tattoos? anyone have one?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2007, 11:53:32 PM

i also got 'the curious incident of the dog who barked at midnight' or something like that.   I've been meaning to read it for years...has anyone else?

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time.  Yes, I've read it.  I enjoyed it, too. He did a really good job writing from the pov of an autistic kid.  I mean, as far as I can tell... not being autistic I don't really know.  But it's good.

I am not a fan of King either.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 05, 2007, 11:57:44 PM
You guys are just jealous because King has sold a cadrillion books. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 12:27:56 AM
OK, what'd I miss?

Dan's not wrong - spend even the smallest amount of time away from this thread, and catching up is Rubik's Cube-ish.

Let's see... Stephen King... jail... tattoos... dead cats... yada yada yada... Curious Incident Of The Dog At Nighttime?  So it's good?

What else... blah blather blah... OH NO!  Elkette!  Your poor son!  Here - this bottle of Mezcal oughta fix him right up!

My dad knows Stephen King from time spent in Maine.  I also think I once met the guy who hit SK with his car and then later died because of some freak reason.  Not kidding.  The accident happened about 30 minutes from my hometown.  Sad chain of events.

Not a big fan of his work... but he likes the Red Sox, so he's cool enough!  And I did like his novella/novel/whatever called "The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon."

I'm tired.  What am I doing here?  Even auto-pilot is now programmed to swing by the Tavern!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 06, 2007, 07:03:19 AM

i also got 'the curious incident of the dog who barked at midnight' or something like that.   I've been meaning to read it for years...has anyone else?

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time.  Yes, I've read it.  I enjoyed it, too. He did a really good job writing from the pov of an autistic kid.  I mean, as far as I can tell... not being autistic I don't really know.  But it's good.

I am not a fan of King either.

ooh, good, something to look forward to!  and, tonight is my writing group - i missed all summer.  i only just found them in May and really liked the group, so i will write today (first time in over a week) and hope to get some good feedback tonight.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 06, 2007, 07:53:50 AM
Don't forget to mention QueryTracker to your writing group.   :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 08:59:44 AM
Shameless plug: hey guys! I'm trying to change the tenor of my query to embrace the romantic aspect of the ms. It really is a romance at its crazy little heart..so please look and give me your insights.  :) (need a begging, pleading smiley for this).

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 06, 2007, 09:35:54 AM
Don't forget to mention QueryTracker to your writing group.   :up:

already did, via the moderator.  the group is run through our public library, and i saw the librarian in charge a few weeks ago and slipped him the url (wow, that sounded inappropriate!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 06, 2007, 01:10:46 PM
Roofies are out!

Slip people the QT URL!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 01:38:27 PM
Okay bartender, what've you got that's good today?  I just got ANOTHER rejection   :'(  I don't even know what number this is...I lost count after 25, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the 30s (and yes, I did record it)  :)  My son is doing fine now, by the way.  In fact, 30 minutes later he was back to jumping on my bed and swinging from his bunk bed.  If the kid survives to adulthood, I'll be stunned.   ;D  And, after scouring my house all day yesterday, my brother in law pulled in after 10 and left before we were awake.  I guess when he said he needed a place to crash on his way to CO he wasn't kidding.   :)  Oh well, at least my house is clean today and I can focus on writing.   :rolf:  You know, I am just amazed at how little writing I get done, considering how much time my butt spends in this chair.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 01:47:35 PM
Sorry about your rejection, Elkie. Glad the boy is on the mend. Mine was a terror from hell and he's made it all the way to sixteen. What I'm wondering is how I survived. We're not done yet, though. Not sure if you're ever done raising kids until they have kids and then you start worrying about your grandchildren. That's what my mother says.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 06, 2007, 01:56:52 PM
so sorry about the response to your query.  i wonder if everyone has a personal 'number', kinda like a PIN, that they have to reach before the appropriate query response....like, maybe my number is 1322, yours is 43, etc.  it's just that the number is secret, so you just have to keep plugging along, hoping that 41 is your PIN, and then hoping it's 42... can you imagine if you gave up in disgust at 42, when the.very.next.one would be the query that got accepted?

let's raise our glasses to the secret PINs that unlock all of our futures - CHEERS!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 06, 2007, 02:00:03 PM
I think about that all the time.  I think it's what helps me keep going when I'm burned out on the querying process.

But now I figure by the time I hear back about the queries I've sent on Novel #1, Novel #2 will be close to being finished.  And I have a feeling that Novel #2 is going to generate a lot more interest than Novel #1 did, so if this one doesn't get me an agent, that one will. :)

Just keep plugging away until you run out of agents.  I think of it in terms of numbers like that too.  I figure by the time I've sent my 100th query, I will hopefully be represented.  I'm not even a third of the way there yet. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 06, 2007, 02:44:32 PM
 :'( i just received another rejection letter today. I am so  :(  I think I'll have some bourbon to wash away my self pity. Every time I get a rejection I feel like such a loser. Oh well I guess I'll wait for the next letter maybe it will be good news, I hope.  ;)  OK I'm done ranting about that, how is everybody doing? :ban: :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
Thanks for the pep talk everyone  :)  I think writers are perpetual optimists, despite how cranky/eccentric/ or down right weird we get.  Or we're masochists   :)  Why else would we keep sending queries out  ;D  But, regardless of the response, I am glad to at least get something back.  Much better than wondering for months on end.  And I still have a LOT of agents to torture...I mean query   >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 06, 2007, 04:28:27 PM
Heey does this place sell anything that will make my Chem. homework finish itself??  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 06, 2007, 05:13:49 PM
Heey does this place sell anything that will make my Chem. homework finish itself??  ;D


sure... but, it takes forever to submit the application, since it's located in chapter 1, sections one through five of your text. it's worth it, though....

just remember, the periodic table is sorta like an astrology chart.  it's really very cool - some russian guy not named dostoyevsky (or rashkolnikov) figured out the pattern to the basics of our world, and put it into a chart, even though when he was doing this, most of the elements were not yet known to scientists, so there were lots of holes...as the century (or centuries, not sure when he did this) progressed, the holes were filled in by others, but he figured out the 'plot structure' as it were.  kinda like a novelist.  he sent out all these queries to the natural world - 'newtonium?  are you out there' and sure enough, eventually, the query was returned with a resounding yeah, man!

also, your next novel may include a bomb, so you really should pay attention.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
Heey does this place sell anything that will make my Chem. homework finish itself??  ;D

Yes!  Here, take this acid, mix it with this base, then step back & watch the fireworks!

Oh wait - finish itself?  I thought you said you wanted your homework to dissolve itself.

:'( i just received another rejection letter today. I am so  :( 

Ah, sorry to hear that, Kay.  But it's important to remember that rejection letters are easily the norm in the publishing world.  If getting published were easy, everyone would be doing it.  Lege has the right attitude in a recent post -- 30 queries or so in, but still aware that there are many more ahead.

And remember, you don't have to send queries one at a time.  Fire off a bunch at once.  I'm not saying to mass mail, but I haven't had a problem with keeping track if I set out 10 in one week (and that was before I had the QueryTracker tracking!"

Okay bartender, what've you got that's good today?  I just got ANOTHER rejection   

Hmmm... How 'bout a shot of Yay-your-son-is-OK and a keep-on-keepin'-on chaser?  I think the same applies to you about perseverance - but I know you already know that & have an excellent attitude toward that end.  Rejections don't even phase me now... not even a little bit.  Acquiring so many builds a necessary immunity.  Anyway - I saw you threw up a new query - I hope I can get a look at it in a bit.  But I do know that if it fits on one page, it's the perfect length!

OK then... <wipes hands> everyone all set for the moment?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 05:24:07 PM
I was pretty numb to the rejections for a bit, but then there was a partial request, and a lull in the rejections - ah, I let my guard down   :)  Actually, I would really like to hear back from the rest of the agents on my list, yea or nay, just hurry and tell me, so I can get to the next batch   ;D 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 05:27:17 PM
Okay, my partial just got rejected.  Now do I get to be depressed  :'(   :'(    :'(   :'(

Oh well, now I really need help on that query  :)  And I'm not sure if I got a form letter or not.  If I did, it's a pretty nice one.   

She said,  "Thank you for the opportunity to review your project. I took time to read it today. I wish I had better news. Unfortunately, I'm going to pass. It's always difficult to articulate 'why' a specific piece of fiction doesn't garner the requisite level of enthusiasm. You're a competent author. I didn't, however, fall in love with the plot as I had hoped. My opinion is that of one agent. Surely another agent or editor will feel differently. Good luck."

I need an Oreo   :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 06, 2007, 05:35:53 PM
I would call that a personal rejection. And, as far as rejections go, it's a nice one.  They don't usually say things like "You're a competent author." unless they mean it.  So take it as a good sign.  Congratulations  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 06:17:22 PM
Yeah - Line up the Oreo Hose & turn it loose!

OOH!

 :band:  Turn me loose!
Turn me loose!
Turn me loose!
I've got to have it my way...
Or no way at all.....


Sorry.  Just tryin' to get a laugh.

So... Elkette, very sorry.  I think that once you're satisfied with the query, send off the next batch.  Waiting only deters forward motion.  QT statistics will ultimately flush out the numbers as it grows, but many agents out there say they only request more material once or twice per 100 query letters.  It's definitely a crap-shoot to some degree... You gotta catch the right agent in the right mood at the perfect time.  It's important to not necessarily think your query letter is at fault -- it did get you one request.  That's more than so many author hopefuls. 

Chin up.  Keep punchin'  :box:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 06:27:02 PM
Thanks everyone...and it was a pretty nice rejection.   :)  My critique group has given me some great suggestions on the first few chapters, so I think my chances are improving, and as much as it stings, it does actually make me feel pretty good that an agent actually requested to see more...that can't be a bad thing, even if they didn't end up falling in love with it   ;D  Although, I'm thinking I need one of those awesome chocolate shakes back there to wash down all these Oreos with   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 06:30:35 PM
Here's a toast to you, Elk. Where that comment, "competent author" like a badge and remember: see what you can fix, adjust that query and keep on going! One of us is bound to get somewhere someday. My critique-mate had LUNCH with an agent today and I'm dying to know the outcome. She's no different than any of us. She has no connections to this agent..it was a completely cold query. Of course, I'm all set to be a little green ,but I will revel in her success. I think it gives hope to us all.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
Ah, just think JW, someday her success might aid in yours   ;D  It never hurts to be connected  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 07:03:20 PM
Update: Agent lunch=contract. She's signed! And she's the newest member of my group. Another is on the verge...I predict within the month. My connection tally is rising...Four critique-mates from two groups with agents, another one who left who has a book out in 08, and one of the four who has a book deal for 08. God, I hope their good fortune rubs off on me. I hope someday some of us become connections for each other!

Here's a toast to my critique-mate   :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 07:06:37 PM
That's great!  And you know, if they are doing something right, then you are too, especially as you all hlep with each other's work.  :)  Your group seems to be on a roll...you might be next!!  (Don't forget to take us all along with you!)   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 07:23:26 PM
I wish I can lay claim to her success, but I can only crow that i had the good sense to pick her out of a whole slew of wannabees for our group. The other member who's close, I'll definitely feel we helped. To her credit, she managed to take every crit she ever had and learn from it. Now she is a total ace pro! The other one with a book deal, we all helped a good bit, too, especially her major editorial revisions..but no one can give a writer their spark. That has to be there from the get-go.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 06, 2007, 07:40:45 PM
Another rejection when I got home from work.  Not an interesting one either.

When I'm done with all this, I definitely want to break it all down.  Because honestly, I started out querying 6 agents, and then for the first 12 or so, I made sure I always had at least 4 queries 'in play.'  Out of my first 8, I got a partial and a full.  The rejections started off as form letters, then I had a streak of personalized rejections at the query stage, then a whole lot of nothing. 

I started resubmitting after my full got rejected, and once again we're back to the streak of form letter rejections.  I can't wait until there's enough stats in the QT database to show off the personal/form letter stats.  I'm interested to see if it's particular agents, or if it's just random.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 06, 2007, 07:52:16 PM
Finally done with Chemistry...after what? 3 hours? (okay, so there was some spanish homework being done in there too)
sorry about the rejection elkie
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 06, 2007, 08:06:46 PM
YAY!  chem homework done!!  major accomplishment

barkeep, we need us a pitcher of 'dang!' right now.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 08:10:14 PM
Boy, today was Rejection Day wasn't it?  Well, as bad as I feel for everyone (myself included) it is nice to know I'm not suffering alone.  Just think, someday, when our manuscripts are on the BestSeller list for the 22nd week in a row, these agents will be kicking themselves for letting us go   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 08:28:05 PM
I found a similar pattern happened with me. And this is the second novel I am querying. Novel One got a flurry of partial requests, one from the very first big-time agent I queried. Then, lots of form rejections. i withdrew the novel after about 20 rejections because I was not feeling committed to it any longer. Novel 2 has been in query since late June, with a flurry of rejections, then a weird bumper crop of partials (four in one week), then mostly form rejections. This time, however, I am not giving up, just retooling the query (as you know.) I think, though, what may be happening to all of us is diminishing returns as we plow our way through our list. We start with the ones who are really attuned to our genre, the query hits the mark, they want a partial, but reject us anyway. It could be most agents always ask for partials on genres that excite them and as we get further down the list we really need to have that thrilled by our queries. Does that make any sense to you guys?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 08:30:18 PM
Completely.  I think you are right, because the first agents we query are going to be the ones that fit us and our book, the best.  The farther down on the list we go, the further from that best fit we get.  But, there's always book #3 or 4 I suppose.   :)  Can't give up!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 08:44:10 PM
Hey..I'm almost at a 1,000 posts! Yay for me...do I get to be an Uber Member or something?

Anyway, all this agent activity today, signings and rejections—shows us the agents have awakened from their summer slumber.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 06, 2007, 08:50:34 PM
How the heck do you have a thousand posts already?  I feel like I post all the time, and I'm not even at a hundred yet. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 08:58:34 PM
That's the spirit, Elk. My other critique-mate and I (and she is an amazingly brilliant writer but is having a tough time selling her historical fiction) both feel our third books may be the charm. Of course, I felt that way about my second and although I'm feeling like it isn't going to happen, I will keep on. The book is nothing to be ashamed of in my opinion and shouldn't spoil my chances with an agent in the future.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 06, 2007, 09:01:37 PM
Round of drinks for everyone.  I just finished my 3rd draft!

 :duet: :toast:

Or for the under-aged.
:java:



Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 09:02:55 PM
Quote
How the heck do you have a thousand posts already?  I feel like I post all the time, and I'm not even at a hundred yet.

Ask Patrick..I AM the dinosaur! I joined in late June and never left, before most of you (even Mr. Barkeeper Moderator guy) except Miss Java. And I was off all summer, sitting at my computer, a big Loafette.

So get my party ready, I am the biggest POSTER!!!! :p2: :p2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 09:05:03 PM
Darn..that would be cool if I could say CONGRATS on my 1000th post!!

But it's my 1001...bravo..bet it's great (based on what I've read eagerly so far!!!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 09:06:09 PM
Woo-Hoo!!!  1,000 posts and a finished 3rd Draft!!!

 :cheer: :p3: :p2: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :woot: :woot: :woot:

Yup, we can find just about any reason to celebrate 'round here!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 06, 2007, 09:14:43 PM
I'm sitting here printing it out.

Oh my, what a stack of paper!

 :woot:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 09:19:43 PM
Yeah, the printouts crack me up.  First time I had a request for a full, I told a friend, "Dear Lord, I just printed up an entire ream of paper!"  I had 486 pages.

Next quote was "Dear Lord, I just mailed an entire ream of paper!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 06, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
At least a lot of agents ask for the documents instead of paper copy. 

Well, I HOPE that's the case.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 09:25:16 PM
For fulls (all 2 of 'em), requests have been for hard copy.

For partials, there seems to be a direct correlation.   If it's an email query, they'll ask for email.  If it's snail mail, you may have to make a trip to the post office.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 06, 2007, 09:26:24 PM
Now I had to change my ink cartridge.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 09:45:56 PM
Oh it would be so wonderful to have a full out. Aud..are those two fulls still out there?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 09:51:52 PM
One of the fulls - sent mid June - is still alive.

Unfortunately, yesterday I had to email her b/c my internet provider destroyed my 10 year-old email account while I was trying to make a simple adjustment of the service plan.

This is what I wrote her - tell me if you think it sounds appropriate and not like I'm pestering her:

Dear Agent,

Almost three months ago, I sent you a copy of my novel (TITLE).  Believe it or not, this is not me following-up on the submission.  No, this email is just to say that Verizon thoroughly botched a simple service change and effectively destroyed my old email account for good.
 
A ten year email address - Poof.  Gone and irretrievable.  Just like that.
 
So now I'm scrambling to get my new contact info out into the world.  Just wanted to let you know that if you needed to email me about the submission, please send the email to this address: (my address)
 
Terribly sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your time.


That's breezy & cool, no?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 10:06:38 PM
And it sounds just like you, which is a good thing! Hoping for the best! Maybe you'll be the QT groundbreaker!
(what's with all the exclamation marks?!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 06, 2007, 10:23:30 PM
And it sounds just like you, which is a good thing! Hoping for the best! Maybe you'll be the QT groundbreaker!
(what's with all the exclamation marks?!)

I don't know!!!!  It's l!ke exclamat!on mark fever !s spread!ng all over the place!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, JW.  I did have a couple anxious moments about sending a non-follow-up email... especially b/c I'm super patient.  Honestly, I sometimes go days without thinking that I still have a full and some partials out there.  Is that healthy... or just inhuman?  Good God - Don't I CARE?! :wink:

Anyway - the email vote of confidence feels like the clincher... so buckle up for a karma strike!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 06, 2007, 10:33:41 PM
Thanks. I think it's great you're not dwelling on all those possibilities out there and you're writing steadily (in between your job here and cheering for that unmentionable team). I haven't written since, um, Sunday? Still too frazzled. But I am going to attack that query. Did you check out that great website Coll posted about the snowflake method? It's terrific for queries, too. It's in the On writing thread.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 06, 2007, 11:59:20 PM
I'm finding it hard to delete that rejection I got.  Does that make me   :crazy:  ?   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 12:50:22 AM
I'm finding it hard to delete that rejection I got.  Does that make me   :crazy:  ?   ;D

No!  That makes you  :box: real tough!

Eye of the Tiger and such!

Did you check out that great website Coll posted about the snowflake method? It's terrific for queries, too. It's in the On writing thread.

I do think the snowflake method it's an excellent concept - but only if you're willing to embrace it.  I tend to write from the inside out as it is, which I think helps writers see the whole evolution of their story... But I've long struggled with the clinical assignment type tasks as prescribed by the snowflake method.

I'm inclined to stick with my own method - just flake, no snow ;D :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 05:37:36 AM
Quote
I'm inclined to stick with my own method - just flake, no snow ;D :crazy:
 :rolf: :rolf:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 07, 2007, 07:45:14 AM

I'm inclined to stick with my own method - just flake, no snow ;D :crazy:

LMAO!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 07, 2007, 09:59:17 AM
Hey audal thanks for the words of wisdom. I have four more agents that I am waiting to hear back on. I send out five at a time. Hopefully I'll get a request for a partial from one of them. :up: If not I'll continue to trudge on. one query after another, one agent after another. I just really blows to get rejected. (blows) am I allowed to say that on here?  :eek:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 07, 2007, 10:22:30 AM
It's all about context.  You can say "it really blows to get rejected," but you can't say, " :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored:"  See, I couldn't say it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 07, 2007, 11:00:33 AM
and he's a global moderator, even!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 11:14:19 AM
Good morning all!  I am about ready to brave WalMart with the children,  :'(  so I thought I'd stop in and get a dose of my Tavern before I head out.  And I think I've decided to keep that rejection.  At least for awhile.  I'm really liking that "competent author" line.  It certainly takes the sting out  :)

Gotta question.  I was reading an agent blog the other day, and the agent in question was discussing how delighted she was that she had gotten a reply to a rejection, thanking her for how nice it was.  She really liked this.  I had been kind of thinking of doing the same thing, just sending a short note thanking the agent that rejected my partial so nicely (not the same one with the blog) for her time and her kind rejection.  Now, I know sending a sour grapes gripe would be burning major bridges, but could sending a nice little thank you note maybe be a good thing to do, (because I really like this lady and fully intend on sending her future work) or should I just leave well enough alone and move on?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 11:36:53 AM
Hi elknutswife! Good luck at walmart. Does your 2yr old stay in the car-cart? Mine will... for about 4 minutes.

Anyway- I think a very short 'thanks' would be great (nothing sour, like you said). Email or notecard? I'll bet a simple "Agents probably don't get thanked enough" sort a theme would brighten any agent's day.

You could have "competent author" tattooed to your chest! Or write it in soap on your bathroom mirror, so when you get out of the shower and the mirror is all steamed up, it'll be crystal clear.

(I've kept all my rejections)

 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 12:00:23 PM
I wish!!  I usually end up steering the cart with the groceries and the 4 year old with one hand, while holding her (or dragging her behind me) with the other.  I'm always dripping sweat and ready to kill by the time we get to the check out.  And they are having a major employee shortage so there are usually only 5 lanes open, which means a long, long wait.  If they didn't have the cheapest diapers in town I wouldn't bother.  Oh well, here we go!!!  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 12:42:21 PM
And those cars are hard to steer! Here's karma for waiting in line! right next to all that candy, which I'm certain is there to make life easier for everyone in the store!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 07, 2007, 12:51:18 PM
 :band:  I wanna rock!
               I wanna rock!
               I want to rock!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 01:01:09 PM
Anyone know Gordon Lightfoot (as of late)? I'm shocked the guy is still performing, though I suppose it's easy to believe that every show sells out.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 01:24:51 PM
:band:  I wanna rock!
               I wanna rock!
               I want to rock!


Ladies & the rest of us, I would like to welcome Twisted Sister into the tavern!  This is truly horrifying an honor.

Now... let's see if TS can cover "Wreck Of The Edmond Fitzgerald" for our newcomer EmSky!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 07, 2007, 01:35:24 PM
 :band:The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down,
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee.
The lake, it is said, never gives up its dead,
When the skies of November turn gloomy.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 01:50:14 PM
 :rof3:

You guys are too funny. To think I missed it!!! (my brother was visiting). 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 01:55:28 PM
too bad we don't have speakers! (for volume that is). Although.. maybe not.

I wonder what Quiet Riot would do to destroy enhance that song.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 07, 2007, 02:00:56 PM
How about a little Def Leppard-Pour Some Sugar On Me My son is learning to play this one. He likes this one,- by the way Twisted Sister does rock. :up: :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 02:05:58 PM
what instrument are you suffering encouraging him to play?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 02:15:08 PM
You guys are cracking me up.  It's actually starting to eclipse the trauma of the WalMart experience.  Def Lepard rocks!  :clap: Keep it coming!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
Def Leppard was the opening act at my very first concert.  8th grade.  Drummer still had both arms.

As for the headline act... here's a name from the way-back machine... Billy Squier!

I was a cool 8th grader.  Mostly because my 7th grade junior High dance story emboldened me!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 02:34:36 PM

I remember when I thought Rush was a little too heavy metal for my taste. And when I was very young- under 10? I actually won an Alan Parson album when I guessed the right song from one note-  Seals and Croft, Summer Breeze. The DJ thought I was lying- that my parents told me the answer. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 02:41:49 PM
Wow!! I got another karma point, and I'm not a newbie!!!  :dance:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 03:18:41 PM
Rock on with your bad self.  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 03:23:52 PM
Hey there.  For those of you who read my post a few pages back (and it was only a few hours ago!) about sending the agent a little thank you note, here is what I've come up with.  Comments/suggestions?


Dear .....
I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to look over the first chapters of The Courtland Necklace.  While it is never fun to receive a rejection, one worded as kindly as yours certainly removes the sting a bit, and is very much appreciated.  Perhaps one of my future projects will be more to your liking. 

Thank you again,
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 03:31:50 PM
hmmm... I'm seeing the 'never fun' and 'removes the sting' too much. No negative! (my 2cents)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 07, 2007, 03:36:35 PM
well, i don't mean to be disagreeable, but i thought it was perfect.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 03:44:02 PM
Okay, we need a tie breaker!   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 03:53:10 PM
LOL  :sorry:

I was thinking- "...Necklace. Your comments were very kind (kindhearted without the very?), and very much appreciated. Perhaps..."

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 07, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
I agree with Emerald...remove all negatives...you two are getting me mixed up! You're like the E twins!

And Elk..rejoice..i think it's a great sign to get a personal comment like that.
I was feeling kind of chipper until I got my dose of reawakened agent—feeling bummed. I told Aud i was going to stay away from here and rework my query, but now I just want to hang out and nurse a drink in a dark corner.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 04:20:42 PM
Okay, we need a tie breaker!   :)

Excellent - I'll be the tie-breaker.  I love to break stuff!

I think it's great as it is... but you wanna know why?

It's because thank-you notes aren't even necessary!  You'll stand out just by sending one that's brief and appreciative.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 04:26:01 PM
Thanks everyone!  And Eme and I really are like E twins (check out her welcome thread - our lives are scarily similar!)   :)  And Aud, that is one of the reasons I wanted to send one.  The agent who had mentioned getting one was so thrilled, I figure that maybe it'll help my chances next time, or at least leave her with a good impression.  Plus, I really did appreciate that letter.  It is much nicer than the other reject I got that day that was basically a three line "Thanks but no thanks."   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 07, 2007, 04:26:47 PM
jesus you guys! It's hopeless keeping up in here!!!
ah well, it's the
WEEKEND!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 07, 2007, 04:38:21 PM
Okay, the thank you is on its virtual way!   :)  Karma for all the help!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 07, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
ATTENTION! JW HAS SURPASSED THE 1000 POSTS LANDMARK!!!!
 :award:
I declare that all drinks should be her treat tonight  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 04:47:35 PM
And Aud, that is one of the reasons I wanted to send one. 

Oh no - don't get me wrong - I think in a case like yours, when the letter feels more personal, it's certainly a decent idea to thank an agent in the way you've done.  Kudos for your decision!

Chelc... School is killin' ya!  We celebrated the 1,000 mark last night!  Ah, but you're right -- it's impossible trying to keep up in this place... and happy weekend!

And JW...  :ride: Ride on valiently!  You have not yet begun to fight!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 07, 2007, 04:53:45 PM
what??
that's not fair  >:( I missed out on the fun  :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 04:55:42 PM
what??
that's not fair  >:( I missed out on the fun  :( :( :( :(

But wait -- this just in!!  As newly appointed moderator, I hereby declare that anyone who has just passed the 800 post mark may celebrate retroactively!

Go crazy, Chelc...  :happy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 07, 2007, 04:56:26 PM
too late...I already am crazy  :wacky:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 05:09:23 PM
too late...I already am crazy  :wacky:

Well, I certainly didn't want to instigate, but since we here are a supportive community, I will exercise solidarity and whole-heartedly agree with you! ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 07, 2007, 05:14:42 PM
Well, I see things are running as usual here. :crazy:  Let's celebrate Friday by letting the alcohol (and non-alcohol for you younguns) flow!! :wine:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 07, 2007, 05:50:40 PM
ALL HAIL FRIDAY!

and thanks for all that bold print coverage, Chelc!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 05:59:13 PM
JW!!!
You're YA, yes? (I just realized I better see if I remember right :emb:)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 06:10:53 PM
Ah- I've confirmed that you are.  :clap:
A general question for you... (or anyone who might know). What is the precise difference is between children's and YA? (I'm obviously not talking about baby/picture books- but perhaps hardcore chapter books)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 07, 2007, 06:25:02 PM


   Children's book encompasses board books, picture books, easy readers, middle grade, and young adult.

    Board books--the thick cardboard page books for babies.

    Pictures Books--- can range from very simple to books with more text for a bit older child.  They usually fall in the 24 or 32 page format.  Oh, and they have pictures :)

    Easy readers--they are for the emerging reader.  The child who wants to read a big boy book but isn't quite ready yet.  They usually have some illustrations (but usually black and white). Also, you must compose your book using a standard easy reader vocab list. Not sure where you get it and it does change.

    Middle grade- around 9-14 age group with corresponding age for protag, not as many pages as the YA, I forget the word count. Usually, a few spot illustrations.

    YA- 15-18, same as above. These can get quite racy and usually contain deeper topics. Longer word count, usually.

   Anyway, others, feel free to add on.

    Coll :)

   
   
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 07, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
I don't know much about the younger stuff (below age 8). There's a category called Middle Grade, which is basically for children from ages 8-11. Harry Potter started as a middle grade, but as the protagonist aged, so did the target audience. Middle grade protagonists are mostly the top age for that genre (age 11 as HP was). The writing is high level, but not too high. There is no sex, some violence allowed. Think of middle grade (MG) as having a PG rating. Then there is a new area called Tween. Call it upper MG or Lower YA or PG 13!!. My daughter is eleven going on twelve and considers most MG books too babyish and not juicy enough. Yet YA books (young adult) can be wayyyyy over the top. This lower YA category caters to the 11-13 set. Then you have true or upper YA which is generally 14 and up. YA is nearly indistinguishable from adult except for the age of the protagonists, usually anywhere from 15 to 21. The market for YA is so huge now that college students are reading it. I read it like crazy. the language is sophisticated, literary. There can be sex, violence, you name it. Even profanity. The content would determine if it were lower YA (ages 11-13) or upper YA (14 and up).

Does that help?  :) OMG..did I just actually speak of WRITING in here? Bartender..drink, please! No vat...I'm going out for a date with my husband soon! One child at a sleep over..other child: old.

Ohh..I see Coll beat me too it...She's the real smarty here! Let's see if we contradict each other. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 07:52:19 PM
Thanks for the info.

I got a really really nice letter from a contest entry- suggesting I might consider the middle grade market instead of YA. (They had the first 1000 words as an entry, and a one page synopsis.)

But I just can't imagine that younger "age" buying into the ideas of police corruption and legal mayhem - seems I'd have more obligation to younger kids, like I ought to say the legal system really does work :yes:, and that all authorities are gooood :yes:.

Lastly, if I dropped my mc age to, say, 12, (currently 15) I think the lack of adult involvement isn't realistic in the slightest. But I'm also stubborn about changing categories, when I've considered it YA all this time. (It's very very very clean, I've made sure of that! :inocent: Maybe too clean. ???) 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 07:54:15 PM
Home from work.  Woot.  No rejections in the mail.  Woot Woot. 

But no requests for partials or fulls either. :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 07, 2007, 08:17:02 PM
Who was the contest judge? Remember it's just one opinion.

Now get me a drink! How about a Long Island Ice Tea?

Coll :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
The writer of the note was Kelly Milner Halls. Again, a very nice letter.

I'll have anything but tequila. Is there more than one dark corner? which is the darkest?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 07, 2007, 08:32:16 PM
Could be younger YA?


Coll :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 08:34:38 PM
One Top Shelf Long Island coming right up.

We use only the finest spirits here in the Tavern. ;)

I'm bored, I'll bartend for a little while.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: coll on September 07, 2007, 08:36:39 PM
I just checked out her website. Looks like she does a lot of younger stuff. She may just like that age group better and can see your work as she would present it.

Maybe?

Barkeep, give me another.

Coll :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 08:38:02 PM
*writes 'another' on a slip of paper, and hands it to coll*

 :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 08:40:01 PM
yeah- sure.  ???
I just ought to know what market I'm going for when I start shopping agents.

Legionsynch- There's a karma tip for you if you can come up with vanilla ice cream and Baileys, or something better.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 08:42:20 PM
Wow! I'll have to poke around her website for awhile! I hadn't thought to look.  :emb2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 07, 2007, 09:07:50 PM
Heh, I'm not in it for the tip.

But I recommend a Kahlua and Cream, which is always yummy, to go with that ice cream.

Baileys caramel and vanilla ice cream, perhaps?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 07, 2007, 09:35:19 PM
Okay, I'm easy. I've never tried Kahlua and Cream with ice cream...  but I'm up for something new.

Baileys caramel? not much of a caramel fan, but I've never tried it mixed with Baileys. I was going to bet near everything would be good with Baileys.. then this long list came to mind.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
I'm so proud... Looks like the inmates are capable of runnin' this here asylum even when Warden Barkeep is away!

Excellent work, Lege... Now go pour yourself a drink, you've...

Oh.

<notices Lege face down behind the bar>

Looks like you've already poured yourself a few.

JW & EmSky & Coll, will you help me move Lege over to the...

Oh dear God.

Well, at least the three of you all tumbled together!

Carnage.  Complete & total carnage.

Nice work :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 07, 2007, 10:47:55 PM
well, no one is online tonight...why is it that on weekends everyone vanishes?
it's 10:45 here, and guess what? I'm tired! GASP! (I normally can't get to sleep 'till about 3:30 am)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 07, 2007, 11:11:38 PM
Now wait a minute...That was Coll, Emsky and Lege all slurping down those Baileys or whatevers. Chelc fell asleep with her teddy bear (isn't that cute?) I just got home. I was out to dinner with my husband without my kids and I had a drink you are all going to die for!

We shared because I am a very cheap date..I would have been plastered if I drank the whole thing: This drink has a most appropriate name for we, The Rejecteds. It was called Some Kinda Blue. Blueberry Smirnoff, fresh crushed blueberries and lychees (and exotic Chinese fruit) with a sprig of mint. Now how does that sound? The other option which I will have to try next time was a Pomapolitan—a cosmo with pomegranite juice instead of cranberry. I could have easily drank three of them. I hope the prices are better here...How does eleven bucks a pop sound to you guys? Welcome to New York..and this wasn't even the city, this was at a lovely riverside restaurant north of the border.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 07, 2007, 11:32:57 PM
How does $11 a pop sound, you ask?

Cheap. 

Welcome to LA!  Well, cheap by the standards of all those hip & cool places I never ever visit.  Me: I find the seaside dives where shorts & flip-flops are encouraged.  But back in the screenwriting days a decade ago, margaritas were in the $15 dollar range.  Simple Jose Cuervo margaritas. A decade ago.  No tellin' what they are now! 

I guess the extra charge was because they were served in the hotel Julia Roberts & Richard Gere made famous in Pretty Woman.  Thankfully, I never had to pay.  But I was encouraged to order more than one, so who was I to say no (repeatedly)?

Clarification: Actually, they were served in said hotel's glasses.

Anyway... Intrigued by the blueberry Smirnoff.  Never heard of it.  I'm not really one for wild & exotic mixed drinks... but I'd try something just for a New England blueberry season flashback!

Awww.... look...  :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:   poor Chelc is already back in a school season sleep pattern!

Ok, gotta go suddenly in the middle of aaaaaaaaaa sneezing fitttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 07, 2007, 11:39:37 PM
I love Venice Beach..it was probably when you were still in elementary school harassing your teachers that I was there.
Hanging out in a bar by the seaside wearing flipflops sounds right up my alley! You're a regular Jimmy Buffet, aren't you?  :)
This was pretty nice though, New York style. Venice Beach..still nice in January...New York...NOT.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 01:05:24 AM
Attempted writing waylaid by random roommate hourlong discussion about the whole writing thing.  (My roommate is gypsygurl, who you may see around here from time to time, just as a random note). :)

So I'm not passed out yet.  I have high hopes for the rest of the night though.

But for now, back to the novel.  I'm behind on my daily word count, and need to get caught up pretty quick. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 08, 2007, 08:04:14 AM
wait - what?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 08:31:18 AM
Wow, I was more tired last night than I thought. ;)

I got distracted, essentially.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 09:06:15 AM
I like your blog, Lege, BTW. You treat writing like a long distance marathon runner training for a big race.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 09:31:52 AM
Heh.  Thanks.

I actually started writing down in the blog more for me than for anyone else.  Eventually, I decided to toss links out there in case anyone was interested.  It's helpful to go back and read where I was a month or two ago. 

I love reading other people's writing blogs.  It's fascinating to me to see how we all go through the process.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 09:53:47 AM
You don't find the blog a distraction? (as if this isn't  :))
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 11:50:45 AM
I usually only update every few days.  It's mostly just stream of consciousness stuff that pops into my head about what I'm going through with my writing.  So it's not that much of a distraction.  As I said, it's more for me than anything else.

This place, though.  This place is a much bigger distraction than my blog ever could be.  It's fast becoming the first place I check when I log on to the computer. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 08, 2007, 12:03:53 PM
Attempted writing waylaid by random roommate hourlong discussion about the whole writing thing.  (My roommate is gypsygurl, who you may see around here from time to time, just as a random note). :)

How funny... Didn't know that two QT-ers were sharing the same residence!  So I guess you're more of a virtual barfly than GG, huh Lege?

Anyway... it'll be fun to keep an eye out for potential Tavern banter between you two.

Legionsynch: Hey Gypsygurl - what are you up to tonight?
Gypsygurl: I'm in the other room.  Duh.


So who recruited who?  (I.E. Who gets the karma point?)  Don't fib - I'm a moderator now, which means I've been granted the power to read minds!  Seriously.  Patrick's powers are beyond our collective understanding.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 12:42:59 PM
Quote
This place, though.  This place is a much bigger distraction than my blog ever could be.  It's fast becoming the first place I check when I log on to the computer.

Totally...i check it before my email!

(as if that isn't obvious by the sheer numbers of posts I've managed to rack up. Yeesh...no one's even close!!!)

Why aren't I a moderator, huh??? Cause I'm a GIRL? (childish pout).

Just teasing..Audal is far wiser for his youngish years, level-headed and saner (when he wishes to be anyway) than me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 08, 2007, 01:21:26 PM
Another rejection   :(  A crappy form letter too...oh well...6 more rejections to go  :)  Actually, once I get these edits done I'll send out 5 more I guess...Hey why not, I'm a glutton for punishment  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 01:36:35 PM
I was here first.  I finished my first novel sometime around June, and she finished sometime in August.  So she was focused more on the writing stuff, and I was doing all the talking and distractions from querying.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 03:13:28 PM
And I'm 28 words away from my goal.  I wanted to hit 17,000 by the end of the week.  And since I've got to work tonight, it's time for me to be toddling away.

And for those of you who are going to ask.  I didn't continue writing (even though it's only 28 words) because I hit the end of a chapter, and didn't want to get 5 minutes into the new one before I had to get ready for work.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 08, 2007, 04:30:38 PM
I can never keep up with you guys. I step out for awhile and when I return, who knows what y'all are talking about. Anyway just got back from my weekly doctor visit to find not one but two rejection letters waiting in my mail ,just for meeee.  :censored: gonna try to get a couple of pages wrote, we'll see how it goes.
Just wanted to stop in and say hi and where's my shot of Jose. Did I spell that right?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 08, 2007, 05:01:32 PM
I haven't had much time to write, but through my re-writing process, my word count has gone up 10,000 words. Only 15,000 more to go, which will put me at 80,000 words.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
Nice to see ya, Dan.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 08, 2007, 06:51:25 PM
80,000 words! I want that many  >:(
I made it to 70,000 a couple weeks ago and it hasn't moved but 2 words since then. I can't write right now...it all sounds like crap.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 07:35:49 PM
I wish I was at 80K on my current WIP.  The last one was 72, and it could have probably been fleshed out to 80 and been a stronger story.

But I'm not focused on that now.  I'm focused on this one.  And darned if I won't hit 20K by sometime Monday (I'd better).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 07:49:57 PM
Yikes! The way you guys talk, this place sounds like a gym and we're dicussing how much weight we pump. Why are you all so focused on volume? Tension, great characters, and a unique premise is what you should be worrying about. Your writing needs to be TIGHT. That may mean dropping in size. Your first page needs to SHRIEK with tension. Your first chapter needs to leave the reader panting for more...It's your hook, your best performance, like your audition for American Idol.

And damn, that query has to be great. Too bad it's taken me over 26 rejections to realize that. i think we all should go back and look at that first page, look at that first chapter, then the first 30 pages and make sure they are knock em' dead good. Why I always need to waste the best agents to find this out, I will never know. I will not query the next 60 on my list until I have got this all together.

Visit my updated query and rip me to shreds...please.

Drinks on the house! Some Kinda Blue for all...Some Kinda Blue smoothie for Chelc.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 08, 2007, 08:44:05 PM
JW is 100% right - at least in my opinion.  If your daily/weekly writing goals deal directly with a word count, it's easy to lose sight of the endgame, which is quality over quantity.  I have had many writing sessions that may begin with me at 35,000 words, then 6 hours later, end with me at 34,000 words.  And still I might consider it major progress because I've improved the quality of the work as a whole.

This is not to say that having a daily goal of say 1,000 words is a bad idea - just that you should remember to allow yourself flexibility.  Don't force it just so you can meet an arbitrary number.  Kudos to Lege for quitting 18 words short of a goal... But tell me, if you had finished that chapter 250 words shy, would you have pressed on?

What works best for me is to always jump ship on a writing session in a good mood because of what I've put on the page.  And what I really relish is when I stop even if the next scene/section is clear in my head.  This means I'll easily be able to leap into it the next time I sit down, and those first words are always the toughest.  Once there, momentum takes care of itself.

Anyway... enough Aud-Theory-101.  I just think that if you're too attentive to a word count & may be checking frequently to see how far from your goal you are, you may be losing focus on the big picture.

And yeah -- backing JW once again, make the first 10 pages the best work you've ever written.  Momentum applies here, too.  If you grab a reader/agent when the starting gun goes off, they'll devour pages before they even realize how far into the novel they are.  They're readers, too.  Just like us.

Grip them.  Period.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 09:07:25 PM
The Wise Old Ones have spoken.   :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 09:14:52 PM
I'm the sort who has to create the marble block with my first draft.  So for me, in essence, the focus on that first draft really IS quantity over quality.  When I write, it's like a movie playing in my head, so I see how it happens, and I just basically transcribe it.  I know about the length it's going to take me to finish my WIP, so that's how I figure out what my ultimate goal is.

For me, editting is the part where I tighten and fix and chip away at that marble, until you've got the statue at the end.  I can't edit as I go, because then I lose the forest for the trees.

Just to add a different perspective. :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 09:30:03 PM
Ahhh, Stephen King's sh**ty first draft. (I shall be censored). I hear you, but I'd still focus on scenes rather than word count.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 08, 2007, 10:18:07 PM
I definitely see where you're coming from.  Guess it's just different strokes for different folks.

Another round!

:toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 08, 2007, 10:26:16 PM
Here, here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 09, 2007, 04:08:02 AM
My first drafts usually lack contextualizing. I rush to get the story down, and then I go back and add reality to the plot through description. That's when my word count goes up. And plus, my book really is too short. And it's not because of a short plot. Especially in urban fantasy, I think, a writer has to completely flesh out both the real and fantastical worlds of his/her work, in order to give greater credibility to both.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 09, 2007, 08:44:39 AM
okay, I'm stuck on word count or anything, I just mean that it isn't long enough yet for it to be at the point where I feel it's really complete. There are a lot of holes that I didn't see on round 1.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 09, 2007, 09:33:39 AM
I'm in shock.  So much talk about writing here in the Tavern.  Even Dan fought off his notorious Tavern-phobia to weigh in on the word count topic.  Is it possible a new thread was accidentally hatched here in these hallowed & dusty walls?

No doubt that we'll all have our own drafting methods... Just as long as we're all in agreement that the sum total of words should not fully dictate the story they're trying to tell.  And certainly shooting for a word count is better than not writing at all.  Just be sure to give yourself veto power - if you find you suck at writing on a particular day, just walk away at zero words.  It's OK to do this.

Limits frustrate me.  They're one of the reasons I left screenwriting -- Unless you're already successful, your screenplay has to come in between 90-120 pages.  Horribly rigid.  And lately, Hollywood execs seem to be frowning upon anything over 110 pages.  Ugh.  Just ugh.  Anytime numbers become a force that governs writing, I get squirrelly.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 09, 2007, 10:04:48 AM
All this talk about writing could set a terrible precedents here in the tavern.  :eek:

But here is how I approached writing. First draft, just get the story down. Concentrate on plot and characterization (probably because these are my favorite parts).  Fancy descriptions, prose, grammar, even spelling, can all wait for the next draft (my least favorite parts).  This usually means that my first draft looks more like a script than a novel.

But there are plenty of ways to skin a squirrel, whatever works for you. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 09, 2007, 10:17:43 AM
I'm just glad we've brought squirrels back to the Tavern!

I literally cannot write a sketch of a novel and then return to color it all up in a second draft.  My instincts just flare up when I leave a simple sentence in bad shape.  I have lost sleep over suck paragraphs that I've left languishing on a word file.

I imagine it's possible that I could get on a plane, have a post take-off manuscript epiphany and suddenly cry out, "Wait!  For the love of God - Turn this thing around!  I just realized I left a preposition dangling!!!"

It's true, though... Whatever works, run with it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 09, 2007, 12:02:43 PM
Whoa.  Writing talk.  This is getting too real for me.  I need a beer!

Having a word count goal gives me something to stride for.  It also keeps me on target to keep writing.  I've definitely had those 4 word days before, as my roommate can attest.

We had a conversation about that very topic once.  There's a famous writer who had the same one. 

Me: "I only got four words today."
Her:  "Well, that's progress at least.  Are they four good words?"
Me: "I don't even know if they're in the right order!"

I don't stick to a goal particularly.  If my goal is 7,000 words a week, I might get 11,000 on a good week, or only 5,000.  But it keeps me focused.

I'm actually enjoying this conversation.  Should we perhaps move it to it's own topic, though?  I think it's fairly  :offtop: for the tavern. ;)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 09, 2007, 12:52:48 PM
How weird.  Our off-topic thread is off-topic  :wink:

We don't even have a smiley for this.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 09, 2007, 07:42:15 PM
I was just going to say...  Every other topic goes off, and here we are talking about writing in the Tavern.  Too funny!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 09, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
I was just going to say...  Every other topic goes off, and here we are talking about writing in the Tavern.  Too funny!

ok, let's talk about movie dialog!  oh, wait, that's sorta writing, isn't it?

rats
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 09, 2007, 09:22:58 PM
Hi all, just to chime in a little late (I fainted when I saw all the posts on writing)   :faint:  I am with Legion.  I have to give myself a goal, just to feel like I accomplished something.  1000 a day and I feel like I am doing ok.  Then I go back and edit to death.  I think I have spent almost as much time editing as I did writing the thing.  I ended the novel at 92,000 words.  At last count I was up to 99,000 and I've added some scenes.  But I've also deleted a bunch too, so we'll see where we end up.   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 09, 2007, 09:23:36 PM
 :dance:

Got good news, guys!!! I got a partial request today! From a pretty cool agency...on the old Broken Circle query. This was from your batch, Audal. Sent it out on the day you began your campaign to light a fire under my butt! Yay!!!

I'm going to query with the new one going forward, though.

Drinks for the house!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 09, 2007, 09:31:58 PM
That's awesome news!

I got a personalized rejection tonight.  Glad to see someone else had a better day.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 09, 2007, 09:42:12 PM
JW Awesome!!!   :clap: :clap: :clap:  Congrats!

and Legion - personalized is a huge step up from a crappy form so  :up: for you too!   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 09, 2007, 09:44:18 PM
 :clap:

Rooting for you, JW.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 09, 2007, 09:49:16 PM
Random note: I just realized that I have a connection to a literary agency.  :eek:  ;D Not sure which one. It's not a very good connection at all, though, but it's enough to get them to read the entire book before saying no!! (they rejected the book that I wrote when I was 10-13 years old. But they gave it so much time that THEY wrote a 3-page synopsis and then gave an excruciatingly detailed letter as to why they're rejecting it).

This was quite a slap on the forehead. Now I'm motivated to sit down and get closer to finishing my rewrite!!!!!!!!!!


By the way, will they be prejudiced against me because they rejected my first book? Or will they even remember me? See, the guy actually reading the book isn't my direct connection. My dad's ex-employee is now a movie agent there, and that got me a connection to a literary agent that worked in the same firm. Will it be the same guy to read it?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 09, 2007, 10:01:05 PM
First of all, thanks for the kudos.
Sorry, Lege, about the reject. But, as Elk said, personalized rejections are a good sign you are getting closer.

Dan, you crack me up. You wrote a book at 13! Amazing. These guys won't remember you, and if they do, big deal. Agents expect you to keep querying with new projects. They know writers improve with each book they write and they want writers who are in it for the long haul. They want a cash cow, who'll keep churning out book after book. Go for it, dude..and you'll get some free feedback at the very least.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 09, 2007, 10:41:12 PM
 ;D And it saves me the pain of having to write a synopsis!!!  :wink:

Oy but that book I wrote was really quite terrible. I looked back at parts of it today: UGH. But it taught me sooo much. And, oddly, it is much longer than the book I'm writing now. I finished it at 304 pages, while this one is currently 260.

(by the way, I've been on this forum so much because the huge work load hasn't hit yet. But in a short while ...... eeeek)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 04:49:58 AM
:dance:

Got good news, guys!!! I got a partial request today! From a pretty cool agency...on the old Broken Circle query. This was from your batch, Audal. Sent it out on the day you began your campaign to light a fire under my butt! Yay!!!

 :clap: :cheer: :ban: :ban: :ban:

JW - would it flip you out if I guessed which one it was?

*grin*

No matter - I'm fired up for you... See>  :flame:

All this talk about me being the first Qt kid to hit the shelves... Pfffft! (<did I spell that right?)

AS IF!  I still gots a manuscript to finish!

Plus, I used the word "gots!"

Way to go, woman!

Uh oh... musical accident coming...

 :band: Whoa-oh here she comes
Watch out boy she'll chew you up!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 10, 2007, 06:24:23 AM
:dance:

Got good news, guys!!! I got a partial request today! From a pretty cool agency...on the old Broken Circle query. This was from your batch, Audal. Sent it out on the day you began your campaign to light a fire under my butt! Yay!!!


OH WOWOW!  I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!  I'm just logging on before i go get ready for a preliminary job interview, feeling ick rather than nervous or happy..... and I found THIS!!

sweetie, you don't mind if I grab onto that partial request tail and ride it back into employment, do ya?  A rising tide and all that....

YAYAYAY!  I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 10, 2007, 08:56:06 AM
Well for all of you hopefuls..here's some good vibes and meta-karma! Especially for you, Joan. Go get em'! With your sass, wit and intellect you will knock em' dead. I can't see how you can't!

The weird cool thing is this request came not ten minutes after my crit-mate sent us all a horoscope forecast telling us that the stars were uniquely aligned this month for great things to happen if we keep focused and don't veer from our goals. So stay positive everyone!!!!

Gotta go and do my job! Whoops!

 :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 10, 2007, 09:42:48 AM
I love when horoscopes end up matching up with what really happens.  It's a fun little coincidence.  Or maybe it's the universe saying 'yup, that really was supposed to happen.  Now don't get cocky.' :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 10, 2007, 11:40:43 AM
I hate you all.  I've only had one request for a full and got rejected.  Okay, I don't really hate you.  It's just that I'm jealous.  Congrats, JW!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
Damn, Loth.  You just reminded me I have a full out there.  Don't you realize I'm trying not to care?!  ;D

Also, I missed Dan's post when I logged on late last night... I do agree with JW - no one will hold it against you if they've read and passed on a previous novel.  In your case, they may even be eager to read your upcoming pieces.  Almost no one writes a novel at the ages of 10-13.  You may be on their radar just for having done so.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 10, 2007, 03:08:12 PM
I'm almost in the same boat, Loth.  I had a full right off the bat, then a partial a few weeks later.  Full got rejected, and it's been about 2 months on the partial.

Nothing since then.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2007, 03:29:09 PM
So where is everybody.  The tavern run out of drinks or what?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
So where is everybody.  The tavern run out of drinks or what?

There does seem to be an activity lull, doesn't there?  Well, I'm definitely having a bit of an end-of-summer slump with the writing - both recreationally & "professionally."  I've been utterly useless to myself for the last week. 

And on Saturday, I even talked to my WIP.  There I was about to tackle a few scenes... I looked at all the notes & pages & index cards strewn about the workspace.  Me & the notes, we seemed to get into a bit of a staredown.

Then I said, "Bite me."

Yup, I told my manuscript to bite me.

Found that fascinating.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 10, 2007, 04:18:43 PM
LOL!!!! Hysterica, Audyboy..You certainly keep us entertained and that's VERY useful.
Well, perk up....your day will come!!!!! I am a witch and I SAY SO.

As for YOU, Lothman..I have never got a request for a full...this is my fifth partial..three have been rejected and the other is nowhere even after I status checked after two months. i think it's defunct.

BUT...in case you doubt the stars being aligned..try this on for size: My long-time crit-mate from my other crit group (two years) just got offered representation for a book I not only NAMED but critted about five times through. I am certainly taking some credit for this one!! She gave birth in June and had managed to send out a revision to the agent right before that. The agent sat on it for four months, then BOOM!

So here's the tally...In my older crit group, Three have agents, one has a book deal.
In my newer crit group one just got an agent and one is getting really close. She also has a revised full out. That's not including two former members who also have agents, one with a book deal.

So that's seven out of thirteen. Not bad, huh?

None of them couldn't have gotten that far without the help of the rest of us.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 06:23:14 PM
Greetings y'all,

Dropping in to say hi. :hi: I spent the weekend camping in a yurt, which was way cool. But I guess now it's back the ol' grindstone.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 10, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
I'm a bit late on this but
CONGRATS J!!!!!!!
 :y:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 10, 2007, 08:41:22 PM
Hello all!  I just spent the whole day at the park, hoping my kids will wear themselves out enough to actually go to bed and sleep all night.  And I also...bought...a treadmill!!   :faint:  I hoping if I put it next to the computer I might pry myself away from the keyboard every now and then and get some excerise.  I need it desperately...my backside is starting to conform to the shape of the chair seat and those big, leather button imprints really aren't very attractive.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 10, 2007, 09:25:01 PM
I really must spend more time looking around the site   :)  I just found the real photos.  Everyone is so cute!  I would post one of me, but...ummm...how do I do that?  Despite living the majority of my life on this machine, I'm not all that literate when it comes to stuff like that.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 09:46:30 PM
I really must spend more time looking around the site   :)  I just found the real photos.  Everyone is so cute!  I would post one of me, but...ummm...how do I do that?  Despite living the majority of my life on this machine, I'm not all that literate when it comes to stuff like that.   ;D

Yup, all of us, WAY cute!  :wink:

Try this... When you post, click on the "additional options" icon in the lower left corner.  Then you can browse your photo files, and presto!  That oughtta do it!

And don't post a pic of a real elk!  'Cause we're a savvy bunch.  We'll know.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2007, 09:50:37 PM
Plus, she only has pictures of elk that are hanging upside down in her garage.  So we'd eventually figure it out.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 10, 2007, 10:01:20 PM
I don't know.  After a month of my husband being pretty much gone the whole time, I do look remarkably like an elk haning upside down in a garage.   :)  K, I'll try it, but only if you promise to be nice   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2007, 10:06:15 PM
We're always nice  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 10, 2007, 10:08:36 PM
Okay, it worked   :clap:  There is a line through it, but that is because the pic was bent when I scanned it  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 10:09:45 PM
Where are these images?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 10:10:04 PM
It's true!  QT users are the nicest people on their boards! 

 :lies:

Hey wait that smiley is a buncha'  :lies:

 :agree:

Trust us.  >:D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 10, 2007, 10:15:23 PM
Where are these images?

Go to the Beta Readers section under the Real photos thread.  There are pics of all of us there.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 10:26:14 PM
where do I find the real photos thread?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 10, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
I think you may have to reach a certain number of posts before you get in there. Not sure. Certainly not 10,000 like me. ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 10:35:30 PM
Let's hope so. Otherwise I'd have to think i'm losing it. :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 10, 2007, 10:41:01 PM
I thought all users could at least access the Beta Testers section.  No?

I'm sure if you sent a private message to patrick, he'd be glad to clear it up for you.  You've earned your QT stripes.

And free cocktails for 50 posts!

Who am I kidding.  Drinks are also free for post 51, 52, 53, 54...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 10:47:59 PM
Gee thanks! I get stripes?!?!? Any excuse for a round of e-drinks :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 10, 2007, 10:53:15 PM
OK.  Emerald has access to the beta forum.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 10, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
I was just going to say!!!! I hit 51 posts and the world opened up to embrace me!!!
Thanks Patrick :emb:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 10, 2007, 11:31:17 PM
 :'( I just got into my first car accident (with me driving). I've almost completely lost my confidence behind the wheel and I don't want to drive for at least a weak to get over the shock. Luckily the accident was very minor, and almost no damage to my car, but it's not the same story on the other side.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 11, 2007, 07:56:59 AM
You gotta get back on the horse, Dan.  I know you must feel terrible.  I remember my first accident.  I felt so stupid.  But get this, my first accident I was in the Army driving a tank.  Didn't do a bit of damage to my tank, but the truck I hit...  Well, I'm just glad they didn't make me pay for it.   So, until you can beat that, and as long as no one was hurt, just learn from your mistakes and do better next time.  Besides, it's California and you could never survive without driving.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 11, 2007, 08:31:52 AM
Definitely.  It's going to be harder later on if you don't get back on the horse now. :)

Good luck, and be safe!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 10:33:13 AM
I agree with Patrick & Lege... First of all, glad you're OK, even though you're understandably rattled.  But you can't let driving psyche you out.

For those who don't know the area... Dan's neighborhood roads are very un-LA.  Don't know where the accident took place, but if it happened up there in the cabin, them's some prickly & tricky roads up there.  Anyone can get into a scrape there.

Soon enough, driving will become second nature to you, so don't beat yourself up too badly over it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 11, 2007, 11:30:52 AM
oh, how awful!  sadly, the best advice is what you've received here - much as it 'hurts', you really gotta prove to yourself that it was an accident, which is the opposite of a stone-cold inevitability... you'll get in, you'll drive, you'll sweat, you'll return unscathed, and that will be that.

go! go! go speed racer, goooooooooooooooooooo! (60s/70s japanese anime cartoon theme song)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 11, 2007, 11:31:34 AM
It's been said. (no need to repeat the 'get back on' theme)

I remember my first accident.. I was delivering pizzas about 20+ years ago. I had 4 'warmers' on my passenger seat- 4 more houses to hit. I was turning a corner, noting the address of the next house (I'd already put 5 deliveries in a route order, before leaving the parking lot) and I drove up the curb- popping my tire. This was before cell phones, and I had to go into someone's house to call the restaurant (obviously a big no-no).

The people were very nice, thankfully, and helped me unpack the trunk of my car for the spare tire. I can't remember why it was stuffed to the max with who-knows-what, but it was, and I was so glad that the spare had air in it (I had a feeling it was flat- because I'd never thought to check it before). By now the police had arrived, because someone saw the whole thing, and I had to take the 'walk on a line' test for some reason. (I was in tears by this point)

The restaurant had to remake the pizzas (they'd gotten scrambled in the boxes, and length of delivery time wasn't looking so hot). The police were very nice, believing my story rather than suspecting me drunk, and helped me repack the trunk (but their lights were still flashing, drawing all sorts of unwanted attention). I gave all the original pizzas to the people who taught me how to change a tire (the police declined).

I haven't been in an accident since, and to this day, the trunk of my car is clean.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
Glad you're okay!  All of my accidents were with parked cars and a light pole.  Now that is embarrassing!  Except for two where I was rear-ended, so it wasn't my fault.   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 11, 2007, 12:28:31 PM
Glad you're okay!  All of my accidents were with parked cars and a light pole.  Now that is embarrassing!  Except for two where I was rear-ended, so it wasn't my fault.   :)

wow, moral of THIS story is...don't drive with elky!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 11, 2007, 02:08:07 PM
Sorry, Dan, about the accident. At least YOU are okay. The accident will be a memory soon enough.

And Joan..I used to LOVE Speed Racer!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 03:01:21 PM
wow, moral of THIS story is...don't drive with elky!!
[/quote]

Hey now!  Those were all when I was younger.  I haven't had an accident in 9 years, and that one was the rear ending that wasn't my fault.  In fact the 2 parked cars and the light pole were when I was 16 and 17.  So you see, you do grow out of it.   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 11, 2007, 04:27:16 PM
alright Dan, you wanna hear MY driving woes?
Let's see...failed test three times...
first try: had absolutely no idea what I was doing, ran a red light, almost hit an old lady. FAIL.
second try: didn't even leave the parking lot; I accidentally set the car in nuetral or something weird, I don't even know. Anyway, so when I was backing out of the parking spot, the brakes wouldn't do anything and I was freaking out, and then BUMP! I hit the car behind me. FAIL.
Third time: was during the school day, and just so happened to be on the day when my world civilizations class went to Madison to visit a mosk and a sinagog. So since my mom worked near where my class was, she told me to just walk to her office. And I got lost. And I was freaking out and crying and we when my mom finally found me we were late for the drivers test and I was a wreck. FAIL.
Fourth try: I got like 5 points off. PASS!!!!

the funny thing is, all of my friends say I'm the best drivers among us, yet they all passed on their first try and I didn't.... :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 11, 2007, 04:29:14 PM
wow, moral of THIS story is...don't drive with elky!!

Hey now!  Those were all when I was younger.  I haven't had an accident in 9 years, and that one was the rear ending that wasn't my fault.  In fact the 2 parked cars and the light pole were when I was 16 and 17.  So you see, you do grow out of it.   ;D
[/quote]

sorry, kiddo.  morals aren't pretty, morals aren't fair.  morals just...are.  and the moral is: .......
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 04:46:23 PM
Glad you're okay!  All of my accidents were with parked cars and a light pole.  Now that is embarrassing!  Except for two where I was rear-ended, so it wasn't my fault.   :)

Hah!  I hit a light pole once in the middle of an emty parking lot.  My wife will never let me forget it!  And I got rear-ended twice this year, so now every time I step on the brakes, my kids look behind us! :cover:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 05:00:08 PM
yeah, yeah...don't drive with elky...well, I don't want to drive with you guys anyways, so there!   :wag:

Just kidding   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 05:02:34 PM
Glad you're okay!  All of my accidents were with parked cars and a light pole.  Now that is embarrassing!  Except for two where I was rear-ended, so it wasn't my fault.   :)

Hah!  I hit a light pole once in the middle of an emty parking lot.  My wife will never let me forget it!  And I got rear-ended twice this year, so now every time I step on the brakes, my kids look behind us! :cover:


 :rolf: :rof2:   

Yeah, my pole was in an empty parking lot too.  The worst part, I was parked.  I put the car in drive instead of reverse, turned to look behind me as I pulled out - and I went forward instead.   Oops   :emb:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 11, 2007, 05:03:10 PM
Note to self:  you're not productive when you've eaten so much your stomach hurts.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 05:05:42 PM
...but you're happy! :pg:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 05:43:58 PM
So... Um... Hmmm.

Lege is giving birth to a proud baby burrito?

Congratulations?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 05:54:51 PM
That was the only "big tummy" smiley we had. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 11, 2007, 06:56:19 PM
Congrats anyway Leg.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 11, 2007, 08:21:39 PM
nobody sympathyzed with my driving mishaps  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 08:25:08 PM
Sorry Chelc,  I do.   :hug:  I almost failed my test the first time.  I mean I just barely scrapped by.  I ran over a curb, cut a car off (both while leaving the DMV parking lot) and I still haven't learned how to parallel park.  I'd rather walk a mile than try and do that   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 11, 2007, 08:35:56 PM
ARGHHHH!!!!!




Ok, that feels A LITTLE better.




My husband just finished reading the 3rd draft of my novel.  And his comments on it were mostly that the first few chapters weren't as good as the rest of it.  I know this really.  I struggle continually (or at least whenever I look at it) on my first chapter.  It just doesn't FEEL right to me yet.  But I really have not   :censored: clue how to fix it! 

And the first part of the book is the only thing that agents will probably look at, so what difference does it make if the rest of the book is stellar???


Oh...whoa is me....


 :cry:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 11, 2007, 08:36:56 PM
Just needed a good vent......  :rant:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 08:55:03 PM
We're hear for you to vent to, O Javanese Queen.  Yeah, I don't know where that came from.  It's a hard thing to try to deal with, especially when you get that, "well, it's just not as good" thing.  Oh, okay.  Well, I'll just make it better then! :hmm:  So what do you do?  Good question.  You need some good, specific feedback.  You said you know the first part is not as good.  Do you know why?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 11, 2007, 08:59:10 PM
Has anyone else read it?  Crit partner/group, etc?  What have been some of the comments you are getting?  And look at the bright side.  One chapter, while a pain, isn't as bad to fix as say, the whole.  Just imagine if your first chapter was stellar and the rest needed major help.  Now that would be depressing.  But one chapter, you can do that!   We're here to help, anything you need!   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 09:10:46 PM
nobody sympathyzed with my driving mishaps  :(

Oh good grief.  Are you like the least patient person you've ever met? ;D  I was gonna get around to commenting on your driving disasters... But geez, it looks like you've IGNORED my new thread... so maybe I'll just take my ball and go home!

Nah, I'll stay.

What I was going to say (but then I got hungry b/c you forgot to feed me.  Again.) was that despite your insisting otherwise, I still think you write in an engaging first-person voice.  It has the snap-crackle-pop factor.  It's a bit unrefined, but there's a lot of character in there when you write thusly.

So there!

And the story of your driving tests?  HI-LARIOUS :rof3:

Happy now?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 11, 2007, 09:26:41 PM
Java
Please elaborate on your husband's comment.  Did he mean the writing wasn't as good as the rest, or the story itself?  If it's the writing, you can fix that.  If it's the story, then maybe you are starting your book too soon.  Consider starting things at chapter 3, or shorten up the first 2 chapters significantly so you can get to the good stuff quicker.

Just something to think about. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 09:30:29 PM
MJ:  I was just thinking the exact same thing as Pat.  (we great minds)  But again, this "solution" would be dependant on what's "broken" within the first 3 chapters.  How long are your chapters, by the way?  Because if you could condense the first 3 into 1, punch that up, then continue with chapter 4 as the new chapter 2, it'll work if the chapters are relatively uniform in length.

Or would it be easier to just tell your husband that he's sleeping on the couch tonight?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 11, 2007, 09:40:13 PM
I might drive tomorrow, but I didn't drive today. It feels good to sit in the back seat again on the way to school. I got to listen to my ipod, read a book, and not take out my fear of being late on the gas pedal.

And Chelc, I sympathize with your mishaps, but they are quite funny.  :wag:



On another note ... I got a B/B+ on my first AP English essay (which is something rarely heard of. Most people get B- and lower on the first essay). Unfortunately, I got a C on my first AP US History test.  >:( But I'll do better next time. At least now I know the kind of questions that will be asked.  :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 11, 2007, 10:49:46 PM
HI! Guess what..I was so busy on the real part of QT i forgot to visit! Gotta get those queries out while the planets are still aligned. ANOTHER critmate just got TWO responses from editors. I hope it all rubs off on me. Of course, I could be the only one left without an agent when the dust settles.

So hi y'all. Bet i can beat you guys with the most pathetic driving story but I'm too embarassed.

AND..LOTH (big loud bitchy bellow here)...don't think I didn't notice that little jibe on Aud's "tense thread".  :wag: :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 10:59:51 PM
Mu-ha-ha-ha-ha! >:D :rof2:  You know I wouldn't have said it if I didn't think you could take it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 11, 2007, 11:04:06 PM
I've considered cutting, but each chapter is very dependent on the previous. And he couldn't give me specifies...yet.  He said it just felt like a bump in the road, that he couldn't exactly explain.

But for me, my first chapter has always been my vice.  Part of this whole thing is that I improved as a writer throughout the process.  Sometimes I wonder if chapter one suffers from over-editing and I've considered just trying to come up with something entirely different.

I don't know yet...  I'm sure I'll conquer it eventually. I hope... (gulp)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 11, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
Stopped in to say hi. Just wanted to say MJ, I also encountered that same issue with my first two chapters. I ended up moving them, after a little rewriting and ended up making them ch. four and five. It worked out for me, don't worry, you'll make it out.

My 12 year old son won his football game Monday night. He scored the first two touchdowns, then scored another one. They won 38 to nothing. :up: He has another game Thursday night.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 11:29:47 PM
MJ, you are not alone, I promise.  It is close to impossible to "find your voice" or "hit your stride" in Chapter One.  I'm under the impression that you're very diligent with your work and do a good job of maintaining forward progress, no?  If this is the case, it's very likely that if you give the MS a week to breathe, you may be able to tear through an entirely new first chapter with the voice and lessons you picked up throughout your process.

You know you'll conquer it, because what choice do you have?  You're determined, Chapter one may be in the way, so you'll deal with it however you see fit.  It just feels like a bigger speedbump than it really is, which is natural, your hubby's reaction is your first bit of resistance.  It's gonna sting a bit.

Don't buckle.  Just regroup, reassess based on his explanation (once he finds one!), and try again.  The good news is that you've been able to recognize that you've improved as a writer -- I found the exact same thing in my last MS.

Now go get 'em, Champ  :box:

No wait -- go get 'em in a week!

 :band:  It's the eye of the tiger
it's the thrill of the fight
Rising up to the challenge of our rival......
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 11:34:53 PM
Has the "Eye of the Tiger" become the official theme song of the Tavern?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 11:38:23 PM
Has the "Eye of the Tiger" become the official theme song of the Tavern?

Wait a second...

 :band: And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
And he's watching us all with his eyyyyyyy-eeeeeee
Of the tiger....

<guitar>
DuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDuggaDugga
BOMP
BOMP BOMP BOMP
BOMP BOMP BOMP
BOMP BOMP BOW!


OK, what was the question?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 11, 2007, 11:39:23 PM
 :crazy: ...never mind...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 11:41:01 PM
Yeah, I've always had a hard time spelling guitar riffs!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 11, 2007, 11:46:17 PM
You two are  :crazy:. Thats A GOOD CRAZY, I think. ha
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 11, 2007, 11:52:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 11, 2007, 11:57:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU)

Whoa!  That was the easiest karma point I've ever given out!

And Kay, thanks... I think ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 12, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
No problem Audal, anytime. I watched the video but I don't know how to turn the volume up on my laptop so I couldn't hear it.  :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 12, 2007, 12:07:40 AM
Oh my god, it's 12:00, I have to watch Pants Off Dance Off!!! :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 07:14:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELMzJQSKmU)

Whoa!  That was the easiest karma point I've ever given out!



Hey thanks!  I haven't been Karma-ized for a while.  It feels good.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 08:52:14 AM
I hope the rewrite goes well for you, MJ.

I spent about 6 months forcing my prologue into a first chapter, before I deleted it completely. I think the problems I had were pace and lack of "reader care-ability" -for not knowing the mc well enough yet.

I haven't regretted doing this in the slightest (granted it took a while to get used to). It also made room to bump my original ch 5 to ch 3, making a great cliff-hanger ending for the "first three chapters" submission.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 09:03:30 AM
Anyone interested in reading my first say...4 chapters....and give me their opinion?  I don't think I want to post THAT much on a public forum. 

It could be that it just needs some polish.  I do know that it still needs tightening in areas.  You just have to keep in mind that it is still a draft stage, not a final product.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 09:30:04 AM
My first answer would be that I can't. (I didn't want to ignore the question)

90% of my time is spent in editing for other people, and I just can't picture doing more. However, I despise thinking I have limitations, so if you have no other takers (which I highly doubt from such an outwardly friendly group) I will. I know I would enjoy it. Would this be the WIP that you posted as a first chapter back in June?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 09:32:53 AM
Wow, has it been that long?

Yes, that would be the one.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 09:48:25 AM
Actually the "Take Two" thread is a pitch.  It would just be the one titled "Fantasy Novel"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 12, 2007, 10:15:57 AM
I can read it for you MJ, if you would like my humble opinion  :)  I am currently out of decent material to read with no time to get to the library  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 12, 2007, 10:18:01 AM
Karma for the video MJ  :clap:   By the way, do I get karma for introducing this song in the first place  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 10:19:22 AM
There... Tiger Karma for you too.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 10:23:53 AM
I can read it for you MJ, if you would like my humble opinion  :)  I am currently out of decent material to read with no time to get to the library  :)

Sent it off to you.

Thanks again!

(And another Karma for you.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 10:24:29 AM
Crud, I have to wait until later.  I karma-ed you already.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 12, 2007, 10:25:59 AM
Yeah!!  :clap:   :clap:  I like to get karMA!  I like to get karMA!

 :)  It hasn't shown up yet, but I'll let you know if I don't get it in the next couple minutes 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 12, 2007, 10:35:33 AM
Got it!   :)  I'll start on it right now   :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 10:47:30 AM
Thanks Elk.
The first chapter sounds intriguing, MJ.. I'd definitely read on if I had the time.  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 10:48:17 AM
It's okay.  No biggie really.

I'll give you a Karm for the nice comment. :D

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 10:53:40 AM
ah shucks.  :emb2:

Do you use an omniscient PoV all the way through?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 11:00:01 AM
It's pretty much a third person. I have several POV characters throughout the book, Primarily 3-4 people. This first chapter comes across a little omi. because the main character is not doing any of the exciting bits at that moment.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 11:19:06 AM
ah. I found myself a little unsure about who the mc would be, who was good and who was bad, and the general path of plot, but it was short and clean and mysterious. Plenty of questions raised, like ... what's the question? I'd certainly read on to find out.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 11:29:25 AM
So the question would be: Is it mysterious or just unfocused POV.   I had a few people complain (when I was posting it on another forum) that they didn't know who the POV was. 

I wanted to keep it more mysterious, and wonder who is good or bad.  Because isn't the purpose of the first chapter to intrigue someone?


I donno what to think sometimes.   I guess I can't make everyone happy.  Would be nice if I at least made MYSELF happy.  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
Ok

I just had a bunch of Karma dumped on me....


 :shrug:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 11:41:20 AM
isn't the purpose of the first chapter to intrigue someone?

That's the million dollar question here, isn't it?

Artistically, the answer is an unqualified YES.  But if you take the question from a more clinical/professional angle, the answer is less clear.  The purpose of the first chapter as far as an agent is concerned is that you prove you can write & have a good sense of story.  Multiple POVs in a first chapter may make an agent worry that a book lacks a dedicated focus.  A mistake I made last time out is that I did bounce around between the players in my piece.  I set a stage all around my MC, which provided insight into how she was perceived by others, but lacked a direct look at her.  The subsequent chapters were all her, but I'd set an unfortunate precedent.

If a common critique is that people don't know who's POV it is, maybe that in particular should be more streamlined and obvious. 

Again, I still think you should step away from the MS for a few days & allow the negativity you may be feeling wash itself away.  Right now I'm getting the sense that the novel is irritating you more than it is makin' you happy, and this isn't the feeling you'll wanna carry into tackling any problems.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 11:55:08 AM

You realize I meant the question Emery asked Nolan? (just checking)

Unfortunately, I'm not the person to ask about PoV. I got tied up with PoV police early on and still have resentments about what a writer should and should not do.

These days... I'm very strictly holding to my mc's PoV, but I'm currently rewriting a ch which has been written in every characters' PoV (approx 5) except my mc's (he's unconscious at the moment). I figured it'd be a fine time to fill the reader in on what goes on without the mc knowing- (in dialog of course) and it was sooooo nice to write with an adult PoV. But I think I've come to the conclusion that if my mc doesn't know, the reader may not NEED to know. But I'll lose a lot of depth if I delete it completely. And all the oddball things happening around my mc won't have as much relevance (if the reader doesn't understand what's going on behind the scenes...)

The biggest complaint I get is "I've been in this PoV for so long... jumping into a complete stranger is too much to take". Band aids, band aids.. 

Now my mc isn't as unconscious as they all thought.  :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 12:06:12 PM
isn't the purpose of the first chapter to intrigue someone?

That's the million dollar question here, isn't it?

Artistically, the answer is an unqualified YES.  But if you take the question from a more clinical/professional angle, the answer is less clear.  The purpose of the first chapter as far as an agent is concerned is that you prove you can write & have a good sense of story.  Multiple POVs in a first chapter may make an agent worry that a book lacks a dedicated focus.  A mistake I made last time out is that I did bounce around between the players in my piece.  I set a stage all around my MC, which provided insight into how she was perceived by others, but lacked a direct look at her.  The subsequent chapters were all her, but I'd set an unfortunate precedent.

If a common critique is that people don't know who's POV it is, maybe that in particular should be more streamlined and obvious. 

Again, I still think you should step away from the MS for a few days & allow the negativity you may be feeling wash itself away.  Right now I'm getting the sense that the novel is irritating you more than it is makin' you happy, and this isn't the feeling you'll wanna carry into tackling any problems.


I have stepped away from this LOTS of times.  And every time I come back to it I get frustrated.   I haven't looked at it for several weeks, then several months before that.   I haven't even looked at it much since my husband made his comments, but it is that feeling of knowing that something is wrong, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

I know what you are saying about stepping away...  But sometimes I wonder if my distress of my chapter, is just the distress of it being the first chapter.....if that makes any sense.


So much rides on the beginning that it just freaks me out.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 12:08:15 PM

You realize I meant the question Emery asked Nolan? (just checking)

Unfortunately, I'm not the person to ask about PoV. I got tied up with PoV police early on and still have resentments about what a writer should and should not do.

These days... I'm very strictly holding to my mc's PoV, but I'm currently rewriting a ch which has been written in every characters' PoV (approx 5) except my mc's (he's unconscious at the moment). I figured it'd be a fine time to fill the reader in on what goes on without the mc knowing- (in dialog of course) and it was sooooo nice to write with an adult PoV. But I think I've come to the conclusion that if my mc doesn't know, the reader may not NEED to know. But I'll lose a lot of depth if I delete it completely. And all the oddball things happening around my mc won't have as much relevance (if the reader doesn't understand what's going on behind the scenes...)

The biggest complaint I get is "I've been in this PoV for so long... jumping into a complete stranger is too much to take". Band aids, band aids.. 

Now my mc isn't as unconscious as they all thought.  :'(

The rule of thumb is to change POV at chapter breaks and not in the middle of the chapter.  So maybe you can pick ONE of the others instead of all of them.  Pick a secondary character that might make it interesting.  OR you can just have your main chapter disoriented as he wakes up.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 12:11:00 PM
NO!! The entire chapter has been rewritten in each PoV. I have 6 versions of the same  :censored: chapter- one PoV per version!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 12:15:36 PM
WOW!

That IS impressive. hehe.


I haven't done THAT yet.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 12:24:38 PM
So much rides on the beginning that it just freaks me out.

I hear ya!  I guess you just have to do whatever it takes to alleviate the pressure.  The best writing, I think, comes from a relaxed writer.  One who's not forcing square pegs into round holes.  Unfortunately, we don't always have access to Relaxation's On/Off switch.  We just have to wait for it.... breathe... wait for it... breathe... wait for it....

And eventually, there it is!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 12:37:23 PM
I suppose it was worth the effort; polish can only take a chapter so far.

Doing this certainly forced me to define each character more thoroughly, whether ever read by another living soul or not. So in that sense, each version of the same chapter was good for something (something more than hogging precious memory on my laptop).

You might come up with a version that makes you much happier: keeping the scene without losing mystery.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 12, 2007, 01:45:41 PM
I did another revision in the Fantasy Novel thread..

It isn't a lot of change, just a little.


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 12, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Karma for everyone, Karma for everyone!
I sent out five queries this morning before rushing out the door to shop for a gathering tonight. This is the first round with my new title and query.
One rejection cam back in, I swear, fifteen minutes, but it was a NICE rejection with my name on it.
When I came back from shopping there were TWO partial requests in my inbox and a few minutes later the other rejection came, but it was also personalized and nice-ish.

My head is spinning. I'm sending more...and MORE. But I think the secret is not only my newly revised query, but the very specific information pertaining to each agent I led off with. I will post the new query that seems to be racking up the requests a bit later. I'm a little busy today, but i feel i owe all of you more than karma. I want to help with whatever you've got posted..so when the dust settles after this crazy, crazy day, I'm going to look at Miss J's first pages, Dan's first para..was there anything else? This is for the QT regulars. Did i miss anyone?

Anyway..KARMA for all!!!!   :celeb: :celeb: :celeb: :celeb:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 04:10:11 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Way to go, JW!  Two partials in one day is practically legendary!  Hell, two in one week would be outstanding!

Fingers crossed for you.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 12, 2007, 04:17:51 PM
ya know, I think I must insist that the tavern be closed from the hours of 6 am-4 pm...I can't keep up!  :'(
oh well...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 12, 2007, 04:24:52 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 12, 2007, 04:48:55 PM
oh, I only just read J's comment, but
YAY!
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 04:56:28 PM
JW that is AWESOME news.  Congrats!

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 05:23:48 PM
Hooray :cheer: for :cheer: JW!!! :cheer:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 12, 2007, 05:29:38 PM
Thank you, thank you! I started a new iniative on my crit group and I think we should start it here:

"Pimp my Query!"

One or crit-mates has a great book but the most lackluster query. No one has even asked her for a partial, the poor thing.
The QUERY IS THE KEY!!! It is GOD!
(Of course then your book has to be great too, and if my book ever gets beyond the partial phase remains to be seen.)

The first chapter has to GRAB...The first sentence has to GRAB. The last sentence of the first chapter has to end with a KILLER HOOK.
No excuses.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 05:32:27 PM
I definitely agree.

I think this is a great idea, and we should all jump in full steam ahead. :)  Let's storm the castle and nab ourselves some agent booty! 

 ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 05:36:56 PM
... some agent booty! 

 ;D

Maybe a rephrase here...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 05:40:19 PM
I don't know about that... I think it's fascinating we brought both "pimp" and "booty" to the tavern in a matter of like three minutes!  I mean what's an ol' Western saloon without oh never mind...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 05:51:04 PM
They weren't called hos back then, though, were they?  Now, if we're talking "Arrrrrggh, get yer hooks off me booty..."  Naw, that still doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 05:51:32 PM
Will there be a celebration for breaking the 'Most Online Ever' record?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 05:56:42 PM
Around here, we're always celebrating.

JW, I'm a little late, but congrats.  And thanks for spreading the joy and helping to critique everyone.  Karma back at ya.

As for the booty.  Let it shake.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 05:59:35 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :award: :ban: :cool: :bow: :woo: :dance: :p2: :p3: :d3: :p1: :x: :duet: :celeb: :y: :jump: :hooray: :y: :ic: :hooray: :jump: :celeb: :duet: :p2: :p3: :d3: :cheer2: :p1: :wine: :woo: :toast: :cool: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :award: :award: :cheer: :cheer: :happy: :wine: :p2: :p3: :cheer2: :celeb: :band:Weeeeee are the champions my friend!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 06:02:36 PM
Party Harty! :cool:

So- I just noticed that the record won't happen for another 2 minutes...


(time zone thing)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 06:04:45 PM
You just proved Einstein right.  Time is relative.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 06:06:02 PM
EmSky - I think there's a way to go into your profile & adjust so the times meet your own time zone.  Are you Pacific also? (Me: SoCal)

And we're celebrating again?

 :band:  Celebrate good times
COME ON!

There's a party goin' on right here
A celebration to last throughout the year...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 06:17:00 PM
 :band: so bring your good times,
and your laughter too!
We gonna celebrate your forum with you, come on now.


You can make a really funny song out of this by substituting "celebration" with a word for an activity that you do by yourself...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 06:20:23 PM
Yeah, I'm west coast. An hour from skiing, an hour from surfing. I spend quite a bit of retreat time in SoCal - Davis Creek to be less vague, about as SoCal as you can get.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 06:22:07 PM
:band: so bring your good times,
and your laughter too!
We gonna celebrate your forum with you, come on now.


You can make a really funny song out of this by substituting "celebration" with a word for an activity that you do by yourself...

You mean like "drive"?  I often drive alone.  But that doesn't even rhyme.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 06:23:43 PM
<Skating right on by Loth's post...>

EmSky - I'm in Venice.  A ways from skiing, but a quick walk to the surf.  No complaints!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 06:24:10 PM
You're on the right track, Pat!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 06:30:46 PM
You're on the right track, Pat!

I'll keep trying then...  Oooh, wait I get it now.  But I hardly ever cook, especially if I'm alone.  I usually just order pizza or something.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 12, 2007, 06:34:23 PM
... some agent booty! 

 ;D

Maybe a rephrase here...

i dunno...i'm still lickin' my chops over agent nathan.......rrROWRrr
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 06:35:31 PM
gosh i'm a dweeb. :bang:
I know where Venice is.. and it's nowhere near Davis Creek- which is as about far NORTH as you can get. NORTH! not south.

I'm usually so good with direction.
<seeking a dark cave to crawl into>
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 06:43:52 PM
gosh i'm a dweeb. :bang:
I know where Venice is.. and it's nowhere near Davis Creek- which is as about far NORTH as you can get. NORTH! not south.

I'm usually so good with direction.
<seeking a dark cave to crawl into>

Yeah, between my last post and this one, I went to the maps to locate Davis Creek and WOW! is it way up there!

North, south... each 5 letters... each with a 'th' at the end...  It's an honest mistake!

<still skating past Loth & Pat's chat>
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 06:44:30 PM
It's okay, Em.  We still love you.  Most of us don't care what is north in California.  It's all California.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 12, 2007, 06:45:51 PM
I feel kind of bad that the mantel dwellers haven't been fed their leftovers in a long time so, dinner for every one from me at the tavern tonight! chicken chow mien anyone?

and play tryouts are tomorrow...I completely forgot about them until today when I heard the drama mama say ever so arrogantly "I'm guaranteed the lead part, I practically don't even have to try out."
Got my nerves goin'!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 06:46:15 PM
<still skating past Loth & Pat's chat>

...but dying to get involved with something he understands intimately...  :rof2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 06:56:08 PM
<still skating past Loth & Pat's chat>

I guess no one is gonna bite on that one.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 06:59:13 PM

Clearly, my eyes are fried and I need a refreshment. :wine:

Regardless, I'm a tired Oregonian.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:09:14 PM
Love Oregon.  It's second on my list of places I would live if I got banned from Montana.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
And don't think that isn't a possibility...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 07:21:12 PM
I believe you! It'd be darn hard to hide horns like that.  :yes:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:28:08 PM
Well, and that's not the only place...  Ah, never mind.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 07:30:32 PM
celebrate.. decapitate?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:39:39 PM
eviscerate
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 07:46:26 PM
I can't skate past this any longer, so...

 :band:   Tolerate good times
Come on!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 07:47:42 PM
Nice word! I wonder if I could slip it into my WiP. :hmm: It also makes the song so much more expressive. Thankyou for leading us on this mind-expanding journey.  :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:50:16 PM
Doesn't have quite the same ring to it, but it's good, Aud.  Tolerate on, brother!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 07:53:54 PM
That's right - Practice tolerance!

Except when you have to practice this:  :draw:

And this:  :box:

And this:  :shower:

Um... say what?

<tavern people in the house go WHAT in unison, mugs chime in a toast>  :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 07:55:54 PM
What?   :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 07:58:24 PM
Oh I wish I was living in Oregon right now.  Lucky!

The roommate and I have plans to move there at some point, but we're both still struggling artists at the moment.  Maybe when income tax time rolls around.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 12, 2007, 08:08:29 PM
what  :toast:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 12, 2007, 08:25:18 PM
look at all this partying going on.  I'm so proud   :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 12, 2007, 08:29:54 PM
what's all the partying about? :ban:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 12, 2007, 08:59:10 PM
We're known for rain, but Washington gets more than we do. Summers max out at about 90 (80 average). Winters hit a boring 45. Springs are drawn out and wet, and fall is quick- not nearly as colorful as the east coast (from what I hear). I think the worst thing, with the exception of seasons blending too much, is that it's cloudy a lot, which is hard on a person if he/she is prone to depression (luckily I'm not). Bath towels never dry out, the Willamette Valley is in the top three worst places in the world for 'hay fever'. Fungi thrives. I stay out of treehugger politics. We don't have hurricanes, tornadoes, or earthquakes, but we do have a few volcanoes. (Yippee!) To spice things up, the coastline is being inundated with tsunami awareness, just in case. All in all it's beautiful with, I'd hazard to guess, 40% of the land untouched by civilization. That number might be really low, but I didn't want to exaggerate by saying 75%. There's no real traffic- unless you hit Portland at rush hour.

I do love it and don't think I'd ever move- not without a really really good reason. (Although I'm the type that could live in a cabin, off the land (providing I could still get internet access :write: ). I hate crowds and malls and traffic that slows for no reason)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 12, 2007, 09:06:45 PM
I've spent a total of maybe two weeks visiting a friend who lived in Corvallis over the years, but that's the extent of my Oregon time.   Still, it was enough to give the state a big  :up: from me!

Yes, I approve.  You may continue living there.  :wink:

And Kay, we're partying because... um... Well, just because.  Although JW did get not one, but TWO requests for partials today.  So were raising glasses for that, too!

I thought of another one, clever dude that I am.

When you're feelin' blue, what do ya do?

 :band: Fabricate good times
Come on!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 09:43:44 PM
Okay, okay!  The word I was talking about was "masticate!"  There, now isn't the song that much funnier??
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 10:40:31 PM
Now you stop talking dirty on the forum.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
I stayed in Eugene for a week, and then Seaside for a week.  Spent a couple days in Portland.  It was a great time.

I've been dying to move to the northwest pretty much since I got out of high school.  I've got some saved up, so if I can ever sell the novel, then I'll definitely be relocating.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 12, 2007, 10:48:33 PM
Where do you live now Legi?  Did you already mention this somewhere and I missed it?

I was in Portland a few weeks ago, but was working and so didn't enjoy it too much.  Mostly I was out in The Dales area.  But what I did see I liked.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 12, 2007, 11:02:22 PM
Lege lives in Ohio I think he said once. I'd like to hear the story of Lege and his roomate, two writers living somewhere in Ohio.

Now I have a question..all of this tom-foolery was on MY account? Did any of you notice I wasn't even here?  :)

But hey, thanks. Glad I started such merriment and good vibes. I hope it gave you all a boost and a spring in your step (or in our case, fingers).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 12, 2007, 11:10:09 PM
We didn't notice.  You don't have to be around to be responsible for something, you know?  Plus, if you're not here, you can't defend yourself.  Helpless targets are our favorite kinds!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 11:13:00 PM
Yup.  Northeast Ohio, a little bit away from Cleveland.  Our story is pretty boring, really.  We bonded over the writing thing, and pretty much in every way that counts, we're nearly opposite.  But it works for us.  The other person's always got such a different take on whatever's going on, that it gives us stuff to talk about. 

I took a bus trip a few years ago and just traveled the country for almost a month.  Being in Oregon was like finding a place I was finally comfortable with.  All that green!  I loved it.  Always wanted to go back for real.  Most of my writing now is set in that region, usually based around a real town that I then use as the basis for my fictional city.

The current WIP is based on Fort Townsend in Washington State.  And in the first book, a lot of stuff was just general coastal town stuff I remember from Oregon, and then a little of Port Angeles tossed in. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 12, 2007, 11:45:32 PM
And since I'm bouncing off for bed, I just had to share that I had an unprecedented writing day today.  5,000 words, roughly, because the scene I was working on just jumped up and took over.  I couldn't walk away until it was done! 

And because I really enjoyed it, here's one of the quotes that made me laugh hysterically.

Quote
"Safe?  Someone set fire to my house.  Jacob's dead!" he shouted.  "What kind of definition were the two of you looking at?  Because what we have here is a failure to use a   :censored: dictionary!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 12:03:49 AM
That is funny, Leg.  Keep it up!  THE WRITING... Gosh...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 13, 2007, 06:34:22 AM
And since I'm bouncing off for bed, I just had to share that I had an unprecedented writing day today.  5,000 words, roughly, because the scene I was working on just jumped up and took over.  I couldn't walk away until it was done! 

And because I really enjoyed it, here's one of the quotes that made me laugh hysterically.

Quote
"Safe?  Someone set fire to my house.  Jacob's dead!" he shouted.  "What kind of definition were the two of you looking at?  Because what we have here is a failure to use a   :censored: dictionary!"

I LOVE IT!  CoolHand Luke is such an iconic movie (and, imho, a really good one, too) - I love when writers use language to reach back into their culture and then to spin it out a bit...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 13, 2007, 08:48:01 AM
I can read it for you MJ, if you would like my humble opinion  :)  I am currently out of decent material to read with no time to get to the library  :)


Just wanted to say that elk is awesome!  Thanks so much for the detailed critique.

Karma for you.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 13, 2007, 10:10:16 AM
I just want to say that Joan is a major genius when i t comes to recognizing lines from movies. How do you DO that?

Hey...my older crit group Wordslingers, is starting a blog, but I'm not posting the address until there's actually more on there. We are posting a link to querytracker of course!

Soon all of you can come over to our new house to play! Uh-oh..I should warn them all about you guys..there goes the neighborhood...but they are pretty kooky bunch, so I think they would enjoy the wit and wisdom of the QT crew. We all write children's books FYI and as i said, our first member to land an agent has a book coming out from Penguin in October 2008. It's called Freeze Frame..and as they say on those old Shake and Bake commercials.."and we helped!"
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 10:30:15 AM
Hope you made it into the acknowledgments, JW.  It was such a thrill seeing my name in the pages of Writer's Digest, I can't imagine how cool it would be to see it in an actual book.  The cove would be best, but at this point, I'll take whatever I can get.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Miss Java on September 13, 2007, 10:41:19 AM
Congrats on your two partials JW!   :clap:   I'm sure you'll keep us posted.


Where is that super/awesome query anyway????
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 13, 2007, 01:32:25 PM
I just want to say that Joan is a major genius when i t comes to recognizing lines from movies. How do you DO that?

HA! you're funny - i do it because i'm a hopeless movie addict and popculture hound...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 13, 2007, 01:49:22 PM
I'll post it here, just for my good buddies and then I want to take it down. Shhhh...This agent did reject me, but rapidly and ever so politely, due to the fact she is swamped, she said. It's basically the same letter that got the two partials out of five sent..all within 12 hours. Only one I haven't heard from. The other partial came from my old Broken Circle batch. I'm going to be so mixed up. I have four partials out with three different titles!!!

Dear Ms. Agent,

Xavier feels his enemies gathering around him but he can't see them.
He can't see at all.


I am excited to offer for representation Darkest, my 74000-word YA novel, blending dark fantasy and romance in a tale of transcending disability, facing life's challenges, personal sacrifice and true love. I hope Darkest might intrigue you, since you represent the YA series, Books of Ember and The Lightning Thief fantasy series.
 
Blind since childhood , sixteen year-old Xavier struggles with inner demons as well as his lack of sight. His cousin Toby thinks her biggest problems are being fat and secretly in love with Xavier. Their lives spin out of control when inexplicable parallel dreams, nightmarish storms, and disappearing emails lead Xavier and Toby to the Circle, an underground society of modern-day Druids able to bend the forces of nature to their will.

Now, on the run from adoptive parents who will stop at nothing to steal the elemental force buried inside Xavier, the teens must reach the Circle before Xavier’s newfound power kills him and unleashes a maelstrom of destruction. As Nature's delicate balance tips toward annihilation, Toby's love for Xavier will either save him or seal their fates--and the planet's.

A member of SCBWI and two online critique groups, I am employed as an associate professor of graphic design. If you should wish to read Darkest, please feel free to contact me and I would be happy to forward a partial or full manuscript. Thank you for your valuable time!

Sincerely,
JW
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 13, 2007, 02:39:41 PM
Ah, shucks Miss J   :emb2:  Any time.   :)

And my darlin' JW, I know I am slow to jump on the bandwagon here but   :clap: :clap: :up:  :o :cheer: :ban: :ban: :cool:

I am so excited for you!  Congrats!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 13, 2007, 02:45:05 PM
I'm surprised you knew that, too.  Good job, karma for that!

I think that line has really become part of the everyday vernacular, so no one really thinks too much about where it came from. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 04:32:19 PM
BAM!  Awesome query, JW.  I say it again, BAM!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 05:37:56 PM
jw, what happened to "Broken Circle?"  Did I miss the name change?

Oh, and great query.  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 13, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
I just had to share that I had an unprecedented writing day today.  5,000 words, roughly, because the scene I was working on just jumped up and took over.  I couldn't walk away until it was done! 

10 Things I Would Do to Have a 5,000 Word Day

1.  Catch the Road Runner
2.  Eat an entire box of Milk Bones.  Without salsa.
3.  Wear a Yankees Jersey Cover the Yankee Stadium toilets with Saran Wrap.
4.  Slay Goliath, Beowulf and The Minotaur - all at once.
5.  Break up with Renee Zellweger
6.  Start a Spice Girls fan club and write weekly columns proclaiming Posh to be the greatest being since Gandhi.
7.  Get a tattoo of the Query Tracker logo on my ask me later where I'd put it!
8.  Grow a handlebar to match my avatar... and keep it growing 'til published.
9.  Throw the Road Runner on the grill and chow down.
10.  Dynamite Thomas Jefferson off of Mount Rushmore and chisel Posh Spice in its place.

Congrats on the big day, Lege... Only 4,500 more today & I'm right there!

And JW - that really is a kick-tail query letter!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 07:03:08 PM
 :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rolf: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 13, 2007, 07:14:16 PM
Now that's just asking for karma. ;)

Edit to add:  If it makes you feel any better, that was a fluke, and likely won't happen again for a very long time.  (At least until I can quit my day job and just write allll day long). :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 07:29:26 PM
Hey, that sounds like a plan.  I think I'll do that.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
You mean quit your day job and just write?  Me too!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 13, 2007, 07:49:41 PM
99 pages at the tavern already, huh?

well I've no idea what's happening...something about words and a killer query...and eating Posh the road runner while battling Goliath atop Mt. Rushmore?

well, barkeeper, hand over whatever drinks you've got that can finish my homework for me, make me fall asleep in a second, and assure my entrance into the play. 'kay, thanks.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 07:53:20 PM

well I've no idea what's happening...something about words and a killer query...and eating Posh the road runner while battling Goliath atop Mt. Rushmore?


Wow, you effectively condensed the last twenty or so posts into one nice little sentence.  What a writer.  :clap:  How did the audition go?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 07:56:25 PM
Did you kick Drama mama's bahookie?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 13, 2007, 08:01:01 PM
well, I was doing pretty darn good if I do say so myself, until the director started having me and drama mama do the same parts, one right after the other. and I would do awesome, then dm would go up and make everyone speechless. I was getting kinda angry.
but, at least, when we were all done, one of the freshman who was auditioning came up to me and was like "I thought you did the best out of anyone on that one part. really, I'm not just sucking up."
and I was like...............................................................ok
(because I felt horrible)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 13, 2007, 08:01:38 PM
I wonder how the roomie would react to news that I'd quit my job, but it's okay, because I'm writing full time now!

I have a feeling I'd be looking for a new roomie.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 13, 2007, 08:07:16 PM
well, I was doing pretty darn good if I do say so myself, until the director started having me and drama mama do the same parts, one right after the other. and I would do awesome, then dm would go up and make everyone speechless. I was getting kinda angry.
but, at least, when we were all done, one of the freshman who was auditioning came up to me and was like "I thought you did the best out of anyone on that one part. really, I'm not just sucking up."
and I was like...............................................................ok
(because I felt horrible)

well, obviously, you really made quite an impact - if a FRESHMAN is willing to step out of the frosh-zone to compliment you. i think it's like getting a partial request, y'know?  so, congrats on doing a great job!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 08:25:11 PM
Yes, congrats Chelc.  Even if you don't get it, it sounds like you gave her a run for her money.  :up:

Could this be the post which puts us to 100 pages?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 08:25:21 PM
How about this one?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 08:25:36 PM
No, drats.  OK, one more try.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 08:26:47 PM
Finally!!!   :woot: :woot: :woot:  100 PAGES!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 13, 2007, 08:56:54 PM
Oh good grief.  Maybe I'll just sit here all night and post & post & post & post & post & post & post...

And be at 200 pages by tomorrow!

And Chelc - I agree with JoanJM - you must have had 'em reeling if you earned yourself a groupie!  Fingers X'd for you...

Though I feel I must clarify...

something about words and a killer query...and eating Posh the road runner while battling Goliath atop Mt. Rushmore?

I actually ate the Road Runner.  Much more meat on the bones than Posh.

 :rof3:  :rof2:  :rof3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 13, 2007, 08:59:28 PM
Patrick that's cheating!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 13, 2007, 09:13:46 PM
For all those hopeless post-rejection moments:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/books/review/Oshinsky-t.html?_r=2&ref=review&oref=slogin&oref=slogin (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/books/review/Oshinsky-t.html?_r=2&ref=review&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 13, 2007, 09:39:17 PM
Patrick that's cheating!

I know.  I'm so ashamed.   :emb: 

But you're just mad because you didn't think of it.  :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 09:43:10 PM
Don't believe him.  Patrick knows no shame.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 13, 2007, 11:06:26 PM
Love your list, Aud. How was the roadrunner, by the way. Did you roast it or have it with a little Chablis and fava beans?

Patrick, look what we've done to you. Poor guy. We've unleashed a madman!

As far as Broken Circle, I had this brainstorm to shift the whole focus of my query from the fat girl to the blind boy (cause he's cooler basically. He's a big fave among my crit groups), and while I was doing that the title just came to me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 13, 2007, 11:21:45 PM
Okay, I've been attempting to catch up (on the actual writing threads too) and you guys just have me  :rolf:  Too funny.   ;D

My hubby comes home tomorrow, but then he has to go back to work and might be out of town all next week.  I think I might start sleeping with the kids and renting out our room for spending cash   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 13, 2007, 11:29:03 PM
Oooohh, JW!!  Shame on you!  Chianti!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 13, 2007, 11:51:36 PM
So you can quote Hannibal Lecter, but don't know Dylan.
What does that tell us about you?
:huh:

Give me credit I got the fava beans right, ya know. Can you please recite the whole line for us? I was hoping my son knew it, but he hasn't actually seen the movie.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Lotheus on September 14, 2007, 12:06:34 AM
A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.  Slurp slurp slurp!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 06:28:46 AM
 :clap: Somehow I knew that would be right on the tip of your tongue.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 07:53:36 AM
:clap: Somehow I knew that would be right on the tip of your tongue.

Probably not the best way to put it when discussing cannibals.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 14, 2007, 07:58:33 AM
 :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban: :ban:

The dancing banana conga line salutes you!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 09:27:44 AM
Quote
Probably not the best way to put it when discussing cannibals.
bada-BUM. Good one. Hey we need a smiley for that.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
Love your list, Aud. How was the roadrunner, by the way. Did you roast it or have it with a little Chablis and fava beans?

Nope.  Threw it on the BBQ, dialed the flame up high, and basically turned the the thing into Cartoon Bird Jerky.

Then I cracked open a beer, raised the bottle and said, "This one's for you, Wile E.!"

Bit of a stomach ache today, though.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 14, 2007, 03:17:22 PM
Funny.  As fast as the road runner's supposed to be, I thought the stomach ache would have hit last night.  Right around the time you were going to bed or so.

Guess it's just not as fast as the commercials say.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 04:13:58 PM
What, 101 pages?  Where was I when this happened?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 05:20:18 PM
Trust me, Lege - the Road Runner was fast...

I was faster.

I think that was Wile E.'s downfall - he relied too heavily on defective ACME products and not on sheer speed.

And Patrick... Don't fret - there's always the chance you'll be the lucky one to start page 102!  But since it's the weekend, my money's on Chelc!  Hopefully she'll be flingin' open the doors with some excellent theatrical news...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 05:25:24 PM
Yeah! Our theater diva hopefully landed the part.

So Loth and Aud have "shared the brain." Come join us. I mean there's nothing really going on there yet, but like, there's nothing going on here either. It's just my homies, you know. And cute babies. And pictures of me, Heidi, and Juan Valdez (you know that Colombian coffee guy?)

And Patrick, what are you waiting for? There's lovely link to querytracker on there! I'm working on our "brain" logo. Right now it's very plain.

http://sharingthebrain.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 06:54:00 PM
I've been over there and looked around.  Didn't see a picture of you though.  Unless you're the little guy without hair?

Oh, but you want me to comment.  I see.  It's just not complete without the wise words of Patrick, is it?  OK, I'll go post something.  Anything to drink over there?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:05:33 PM
And Patrick... Don't fret - there's always the chance you'll be the lucky one to start page 102!  But since it's the weekend, my money's on Chelc!  Hopefully she'll be flingin' open the doors with some excellent theatrical news...
well, let's see if you're right...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:05:52 PM
phooey
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:12:01 PM
ok, anyway, enough about tavern pages....
it's 8:06 and I just got home after a good FIVE hours of seriously intense try outs....can you say wiped out?
and I'm going back to the school at 9:45 tonight to see the cast results, and I'm suddenly super nervous and none of you are online right now and to calm me down, and all my family is getting ready for bed so they can't calm me down, and, Aud, if you walk in here tomorrow morning and see glasses and dishes broken and thrown all over the place and coffee and alcohol splattered on the ceiling and walls....
yup. That was me.




GAH!
*biting nails....okay, so actually I'm filing my nails... ;D*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:20:18 PM
(102 pages yet?)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
hooooowww bbbooouuuttt......
NOW!?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 14, 2007, 08:21:40 PM
Hey Chelc!  Good luck!!!!!   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 08:21:47 PM
Chelc! Chelc! Chelc!

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Here's some applause.  Get used to it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 14, 2007, 08:22:07 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 14, 2007, 08:22:24 PM
 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 14, 2007, 08:22:53 PM
Oh come on, all that applause and still not to 102?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 14, 2007, 08:23:19 PM
yeah!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:23:58 PM
woah...HELLO!
talk about bam...
I was just about to post something more about 102 pages....then all the sudden there's all this applause...
ahhhh
ok
thanks I guess  :emb:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:25:01 PM
you all may want to watch your step...there's plenty of jagged glass on the floor
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 08:28:16 PM
Good luck Chelc. I can only assume that you'll come back tonight and post how you did?

:celeb: here's you either way.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 08:32:01 PM
I'm sure Aud could come up with some fake flowers (real?), so as to save the remaining dishes.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:32:14 PM
breathe in......breathe out....br--
IT'S NOT WORKING!!!!!!
 :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:
(was that effective enough, do ya think? nah...)
 :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:
 :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz: :taz:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 08:37:33 PM
I'm sure Aud could come up with some fake flowers (real?), so as to save the remaining dishes.

EmSky, it's as though you were in my head (run away fast - it's frightening in there!)

Chelc.  These are for you:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:41:26 PM
I'm allergic, dude....












just kidding  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:43:16 PM
hey do you think we're at 103 pages now?


and sorry about the tavern...I'll get a broom and sweep it all up right now!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:47:07 PM
wow, I've filed my nails down a good 2 centimeters already...
GOD! do we have tranquilizers?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 08:49:12 PM
ok...I'm gonna go and calm myself down now (attempt to at least) and then go to the school to see the results. Then I'll be back!! See ya's in like 2 hours!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 09:03:32 PM
Good luck, champ!

Here - more karma...

And I'll send QT's top secret delivery boy to bring you more flowers...

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 09:05:28 PM
Quote
Didn't see a picture of you though.

There is one...Next to my intro, silly. It's with the other lady and two of our hapless victims.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 09:06:20 PM
 :clap:

Oh MAN, that was GREAT, Aud. She's going to love that. Hope she returns with great news.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 09:31:39 PM
:clap:

Oh MAN, that was GREAT, Aud. She's going to love that. Hope she returns with great news.

Thanks... But in all fairness, EmSky actually planted the flowers (and got karma for the killer idea -  :up: - thanks!).  I only executed her idea... and OK, yeah, the delivery boy was me building onto the idea.

I'm also crossing fingers during these anxious hours...

And lookit that - I get to christen page 103!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 09:46:32 PM
ah shucks.  :emb:

Here's one for you to figure out... Please no cheating!!!

Look - Man is born in freedom but he soon becomes a slave
In cages of convention from the cradle to the grave
The weak fall by the wayside but the strong will be saved
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 10:01:34 PM
 :whistle:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 10:02:26 PM
It's got the cadence of that song with the lyric:

"don't believe in excess, success is to give
don't believe in riches but you should see where I live..."


But that's U2.  I think they're rearranging something by Lennon.

I don't know the answer to your puzzle.  Too busy with floral arrangements to concentrate.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 10:09:56 PM
okay... here's the hint that I thought would be too obvious.. (of course... there are hints that are more obvious...)


We'll build shops and hospitals and barracks right under their noses - right under their
feet! Everything we need - banks, prisons and schools... We'll send scouting parties to
collect books and stuff, and men like you'll teach the kids. Not poems and rubbish -
science, so we can get everything working. We'll build villages and towns and... and...
we'll play each other at cricket!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 10:23:33 PM
That sounds familiar.  From a movie.  But I can't place it.  A new movie I think.  But I'm stumpeded.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 10:28:32 PM
Hey, I'm back.
Drama mama didn't get lead--she got the the other female role (the queen). A sophomore got the lead. So that means nothing for me.
But it's all good! I don't like to wallow in things. And hey, I'm trying to be an author--if I can't take rejection for a school play, then, well that's not really gonna work out in the writing business is it?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 14, 2007, 10:40:07 PM
It has been a semi-recent movie, but I never saw it out of principle. Therefore, I can't say how much this song might have gotten destroyed....



So sorry Chelc. At least the drama mama didn't get the lead. That's something... and see how boring it was while you were gone? we'd miss you if you had rehearsal all the time.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
Oh, Hell.   :sorry:

Applaud your attitude, though.  And hey, did you at least see who showed up at your door with more flowers?

I'd say you won the evening overall.  Even more so if Drama Mama started sobbing!

And EmSky... Well, not only was I still clueless after your hint... but I cheated, looked it up...

And I still have no idea!

Chelc - your turn at the jukebox.  And remember, your role as Frootloop in "The Making Of Query Tracker" is still yours if you want it!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 10:49:24 PM
And hey, did you at least see who showed up at your door with more flowers?
yes I did, tell mr. Depp I said thanks  :wink:
no singing...I don't feel like singing. I think I'm getting sick. It's really cold here for september (like high 40's, low 50's) and I was outside in the freezing wind for about and hour earlier.

I think I'll just settle for  :wine: tonight!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 10:59:22 PM
Tell Mr. Depp yourself -- he's been given the rest of the night off & is at your disposal.

It's cold here in LA, too... 62!  Brrr!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 11:00:50 PM
Aww, bummer, Chelc. Like everyone else said, at least it wasn't drama-mama. Maybe it would have been too much, anyway. It is your destiny to WRITE, not act.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 11:02:40 PM
Quote
It's cold here in LA, too... 62!  Brrr!
That's laughable. Did you have to haul out your furs?  ;D

Guess what my daughter did tonight? Went to a Mets game. They lost. Big deal. I'm pooped, but she's all wound up and wants me to stay up with her.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 11:06:11 PM
62? COLD?!?!!?
Oh that's right, you're a californian...and californians can't take the cooollldddd like us ruff and tuff mid-westerns :wag:
my dad is one of you--he wears jackets and sweaters in 65 degree weather!

oh yeah, and sorry J, but I was in the mood to change my avatar to something cuddly...and I was tired of seeing my face. So say hello to Pandi the tumbling panda avatar!

also, thanks for all the kind words in regards to play failure everyone  :sick1:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 14, 2007, 11:09:33 PM
Holy Panda-tar!

Cool. :up:

And Chelc - the failure wasn't yours... it was the theatre director's!

The New Hampshire me would kick the California me right in the a :censored: for thinkin' 62 is cold.  My hair used to freeze in the morning, and what did I think?  I thought, "Bring it on, Mama Nature!  Oh - wanna make it so my car won't start?  Fine, I'll just hitchhike.  Through the snow.  With frozen hair!"

And I liked it!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 11:12:41 PM
is that a real song?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 11:13:25 PM
because it could be...just need the band
 :band:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 14, 2007, 11:16:52 PM
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The New Hampshire me would kick the California me right in the a  for thinkin' 62 is cold.  My hair used to freeze in the morning, and what did I think?  I thought, "Bring it on, Mama Nature!  Oh - wanna make it so my car won't start?  Fine, I'll just hitchhike.  Through the snow.  With frozen hair!"

But now you are a weak-blooded California beach bum. For shame.
Actually, I'm just jealous.

Chelc, I love the little guy. Nobody said you had to keep that avatar forever. the boys were getting restless on the mantel anyway.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 14, 2007, 11:20:19 PM
NEWSFLASH!
mantel dwellers! you have been set FFFRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 14, 2007, 11:26:26 PM
Hey Chelc, sorry about the play, but you're better off writing them instead of acting in them.  How about a ton of karma for a consolation prize?  Love the new avatar.  Somehow, it just says YOU.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 01:14:51 AM
NEWSFLASH!
mantel dwellers! you have been set FFFRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

WOO-HOO!!!

<falls from mantel to floor with a head-bangin' THUD!!!>

Ahhhh..... Freedom!

<looks around>

Wait - now what??

Hey Loth - what the hell are we supposed to do with ourselves?!?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 06:51:45 AM
okay... here's the hint that I thought would be too obvious.. (of course... there are hints that are more obvious...)


We'll build shops and hospitals and barracks right under their noses - right under their
feet! Everything we need - banks, prisons and schools... We'll send scouting parties to
collect books and stuff, and men like you'll teach the kids. Not poems and rubbish -
science, so we can get everything working. We'll build villages and towns and... and...
we'll play each other at cricket!


is this a movie quote or a song quote?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 07:04:31 AM
For all those hopeless post-rejection moments:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/books/review/Oshinsky-t.html?_r=2&ref=review&oref=slogin&oref=slogin (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/books/review/Oshinsky-t.html?_r=2&ref=review&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)

wow, thanks for that link.  thank GOD my name isn't macduff!!!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 07:37:53 AM
Regarding the quote.. it's a... hmmm.

It's from a 2hr musical soundtrack-- with I'd say... 20% narration. It was made into a movie... but I know it as a song.  All of the quotes (2) have been from just ONE of the songs.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 08:15:05 AM
Regarding the quote.. it's a... hmmm.

It's from a 2hr musical soundtrack-- with I'd say... 20% narration. It was made into a movie... but I know it as a song.  All of the quotes (2) have been from just ONE of the songs.

i give up - what is it?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 08:16:14 AM
YESSSS!

It's from RENT!!!!

am I right? I saw the damn thing last winter.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 08:33:55 AM
No, not from rent.

Great cast of people involved.. Justin Hayward (moody blues) David Essex(rock on), Richard Burton(classic actor), Even Anthony Hopkins! (a pitifully small part) Phil Lynott (thin lizzy) Julie Covington (Don't Cry for me Argentina)

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 08:38:29 AM
More quote:

Can't you just see it? Civilization starting all over again - a second chance. We'll even
build a railway and tunnel to the coast, go there for our holidays. Nothing can stop men
like us. I've made a start already. Come on down here and have a look.

JOURNALIST: In the cellar was a tunnel scarcely ten yards long, that had
taken him a week to dig. I could have dug that much in a day, and I suddenly had
my first inkling of the gulf between his dreams and his powers.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 08:47:36 AM
hey don't know what is going on ....move talk or song talk or something, but hi anyway. I got another rejection. I think I need to re-do my query letter. I'm about to give this whole thing up. I can't take many more rejections. :( OK I'm done feeling sorry for myself, so what's going on? :ban: congrats JW on your partials.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 08:52:06 AM
oh, poor thing!  don't give up, though - read through JWs posts, and you'll see how the evolution of a query plus a heckuva lot of perseverence resulted in a veritable blizzard of partial requests!  i'm nowhere near query stage, so i'm sort of just standing back and taking in the process that i may/may not indulge in, and it really IS an evolution.

i could be wrong - query-writers please respond - but it seems like the best attitude upon rejection is to assume it's the query 'draft' not the writer who's being told 'no.' 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 08:56:28 AM
More quote:

Can't you just see it? Civilization starting all over again - a second chance. We'll even
build a railway and tunnel to the coast, go there for our holidays. Nothing can stop men
like us. I've made a start already. Come on down here and have a look.

JOURNALIST: In the cellar was a tunnel scarcely ten yards long, that had
taken him a week to dig. I could have dug that much in a day, and I suddenly had
my first inkling of the gulf between his dreams and his powers.


the hunting of the snark?  the war of the worlds?  imdb lists on two movies that justin hayward acted in.. is it one of these?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 09:04:26 AM
Exactly. My pulled my query and redid it. Now, finally agents are taking notice. The two who have rejected the new query seem almost apologetic, saying they are really too swamped to give it there attention, where in the past, it was.."this is not right for our list." SO a good query matters. If, after I send out the partials then no one asks for a full, I'll have to reassess the ms again. I'd already done that after a first round of partials were rejected. So, you need to learn from your misteps. Getting published is not easy at all. Some people strike it lucky almost effortlessly, but most don't. It's a long, long road and you need to suck in a deep breath and ask yourself if you want it bad enough. And then be ready to look at what you can do better, even if it means starting over. Look at Dan..he's about to change the age of his mc, even after hiring a book doctor, because he knows it's going to make his book better.

But seriously, I know that crushed feeling. I've been there. So, if you can't see yourself not writing, don't give up. But do look to improve. Are you in any kind of writer's group? Feedback is important. That's why we call our blog, sharing the brain. We are interdependent. Even our soon to be published authro fully admits that without our cool-eyed edits, she'd have floundered. Me? Forget it. I owe everything to these women. And the people here have been a wonderful group of cheerleaders and helpers, too.

You can have the best, most exciting query, but the grammar os off or there is a mispelling, it's an instant rejection. So revamp, rethink..but don't give up. If you've got the spark, that's all you need. It may just take patience to kindle that flame.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 09:07:12 AM
I give up too. I was so sure it was Rent. But I'm not so much of a Rent fanatic that I can recite it.
Joan is frantic. But she isn't going down so easily. That's some feat, stumping Miss Movie Trivia. Way to go, EmSky!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 09:08:10 AM
Exactly. My pulled my query and redid it. Now, finally agents are taking notice. The two who have rejected the new query seem almost apologetic, saying they are really too swamped to give it there attention, where in the past, it was.."this is not right for our list." SO a good query matters. If, after I send out the partials then no one asks for a full, I'll have to reassess the ms again. I'd already done that after a first round of partials were rejected. So, you need to learn from your misteps. Getting published is not easy at all. Some people strike it lucky almost effortlessly, but most don't. It's a long, long road and you need to suck in a deep breath and ask yourself if you want it bad enough. And then be ready to look at what you can do better, even if it means starting over. Look at Dan..he's about to change the age of his mc, even after hiring a book doctor, because he knows it's going to make his book better.

But seriously, I know that crushed feeling. I've been there. So, if you can't see yourself not writing, don't give up. But do look to improve. Are you in any kind of writer's group? Feedback is important. That's why we call our blog, sharing the brain. We are interdependent. Even our soon to be published authro fully admits that without our cool-eyed edits, she'd have floundered. Me? Forget it. I owe everything to these women. And the people here have been a wonderful group of cheerleaders and helpers, too.

You can have the best, most exciting query, but the grammar os off or there is a mispelling, it's an instant rejection. So revamp, rethink..but don't give up. If you've got the spark, that's all you need. It may just take patience to kindle that flame.

This was a really great, inspirational post.  Thanks jw!!  Karma for you. :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 09:10:35 AM
I agree with JW completely.  I went a different path with that.  My query letter didn't seem to be that strong (at least in the last string of rejections), but instead of giving up, I went ahead and started on my second book.  Already, I think it's a lot stronger, more interesting, and will be an easier thing to pitch than the first one was.  So hopefully I'll start querying again sometime before the end of the year, knowing everything I know from submitting that first time.

So don't give up.  Either retool what you've got, or keep plugging away at that next project.  :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 09:31:37 AM
I give up too. I was so sure it was Rent. But I'm not so much of a Rent fanatic that I can recite it.
Joan is frantic. But she isn't going down so easily. That's some feat, stumping Miss Movie Trivia. Way to go, EmSky!

you're right - i WAS frantic!  however, musicals (other than kids') aren't my forte, so i feel more relaxed knowing it was an OPERA -- so outta my field that i actually cheated on looked it up on imdb! 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 09:43:38 AM
thanks everybody for the words of encouragement, they really help a lot. I'm not in any writing groups, to be perfectly honest, I am very new at this . I have been writing for years as a hobby. I just recently started doing the publishing part ( or trying to at least). I don't really know any writing groups. I live in a very small town in Missouri and there is nothing here. and I do mean nothing. I would appreciate any and all advice you guys could give me on this. Everybody here seems so smart about the writing business. I was thinking of trying to submit a different one of my manuscripts, but wasn't sure if I should.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 10:03:06 AM
Yep.. War of the Worlds... It's the one and only reason I still have a cassette player.

http://www.thewaroftheworlds.com/

If you go here... click on the red "Click here for Music Player" at the very top right-hand side, and you can hear the entire thing (this is what the Tom Cruise movie was based on-- and this soundtrack was based on an early early radio broadcast (1938) and before that HG Wells (1898) )
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 10:07:01 AM
I'm working on a new query now, I'll post it and maybe get some good pointers,let me know someone if you will.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
good movie EM. :up:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 10:16:51 AM
wow, i never even heard of it!  i am soooooo impressed, oh greengemminess!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 10:29:33 AM
I was excited that there'd be a movie, but when it finally came out, I heard it was bad before I could see it. Then I just couldn't bear to witness the destruction of the version I know and love.

It's very cheesy, but I guess it grows on you.. maybe because it's so uniquely bazaar -- sorta like rocky horror picture show-- except that one didn't grow on me.  ;D

Good luck with reworking the query!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
OK, I'm familiar with the story of the original radio broadcast -- must have been quite a spectacle back in the day.

I suffered through most of the Tom Cruise version.  Most of the suffering was b/c of Cruise.  Dude creeps me out.  Watching Jerry Maguire is an exhausting experience... I have to mute him everytime he speaks, then activate the sound when Renee Zellweger speaks... and so on and so forth. 

I've perfected this process to the point where I have renamed the movie "Dorothy Boyd."
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 15, 2007, 11:08:05 AM
good morning everyone.  So sorry Chelc and Kay - but don't worry, better things are coming!  :)

If anyone likes the Chicken Soup for the Soul books, there is one coming out in October (the 15th I believe) called Chicken Soup for the Chocolate Lover's Soul - and  - drum roll - I'm in it!   ;D  I'm so excited!  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 15, 2007, 11:16:13 AM
 

Major congrats Elky!!

:clap:  :clap:  :clap:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 11:24:58 AM
good morning everyone.  So sorry Chelc and Kay - but don't worry, better things are coming!  :)

If anyone likes the Chicken Soup for the Soul books, there is one coming out in October (the 15th I believe) called Chicken Soup for the Chocolate Lover's Soul - and  - drum roll - I'm in it!   ;D  I'm so excited!  ;D

how are you in it - did you write an essay?  i'm not familiar with them... please, enlighten me!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 11:26:15 AM
Dude creeps me out. 

hear hear!  why is that man a movie star??? 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 15, 2007, 11:30:19 AM
Thanks  ;D 

Joan, yes it is a little couple hundred word essay type thing.  Non fiction, usually something that is inspirational, funny, touching, etc.  This is actually the third Chicken Soup book I've been published in.  One essay was put in 2 books, and then this one.  My only publishing credits  :)  but hey, I'm proud of them  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 11:35:28 AM
Congrats Elky, I'm not familiar with the chicken soup books either but what you contributed is probably great. I may have to read the new one now :clap: I like Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 11:57:05 AM
WOW!!!! Hip-hip-hooray for you! YOU ARE PUBLISHED!!!!


Now, I need to continue talking to Kay:
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thanks everybody for the words of encouragement, they really help a lot. I'm not in any writing groups, to be perfectly honest, I am very new at this . I have been writing for years as a hobby. I just recently started doing the publishing part ( or trying to at least). I don't really know any writing groups. I live in a very small town in Missouri and there is nothing here. and I do mean nothing. I would appreciate any and all advice you guys could give me on this. Everybody here seems so smart about the writing business. I was thinking of trying to submit a different one of my manuscripts, but wasn't sure if I should.

My writing groups are ALL online. Let me tell you my story: I was always considered a decent writer, but I never wanted to be a writer. I was an artist through and through. Hence beyond high school English I never took a class. Over the years I'd dabble, give up, and go back to my art. Then, with my job giving grants for artistic projects, I decided to dust off an old project and write in earnest. I wrote and wrote for two years and finally decided...I was done. My cousin loved it, my son's friend loved it. I was a genius! My friend had a connection to an editor at a major publishing house. She looked at it and pronounced that my effort was basically sheer crap, although, buried somewhere in that pile of dredge, there was an engaging character and a good story to tell. Problem was, my writing sucked. She suggested joining a critique group. So, a google search led me to my two and a half year partner in crime, who at the time, wrote as badly as me, but now has an agent, along with two other members of said group.
None of us could see past our own noses when we started...but boy how we learned. So get out there and get in a group. Do a yahoo search .try to find a group that works on the same genre as you. If you can't find one...start your own. We were all new to this once, Kay. Now..there's more to my story (and it ain't over yet, since I still don't have an agent). After one year in my first crit group, I thought my first book was ready to query. Got a slew of partials, all rejected. Then I searched my soul and found the answer. The first book sucked and there was no saving it,. So I moved on to book two, now in query. I am well into my third. But this time I am NOT giving up on book two until I have queried every decent agent in the US. Why/ Because in my heart I know that book is the best I can make it at this time. Sadly, it took about three re-writes of the book and query, AFTER I began the query process to figure this out. But, now, I am certain. I can stand behind this book and scream..this is my BEST. If you can't say that, then you need to push on. You will get there if you are determined. I have seen my crit members, their ms's rife with mispellings, grammatical errors, (myself included), listen learn and become masterful writers. One has even won a national contest and is a whisper away from landing an agent, and poosibly a book contract for her efforts. But she worked like a fiend to improve her writing and the effort has payed off big time.

There's my speech for the day. Do with it what you will, Kay. But querying before you have mastered your craft is sure to be a heartbreaker. It's tough enough to begin with. So maybe your focus should be on improving your writing, as Lege and I have both done and your day will surely come.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: kaybounds on September 15, 2007, 12:30:31 PM
Thank you JW that was a very inspirational speech. I will continue to trudge on. I have no degrees or anything that I can contribute to writing except years ago after a tragic episode in my life I did enter and win a poetry contest and they did publish my poem. Poetry is something that I dabbled in for a while, but fiction is what I write. I will say that the ms that I am querying, I think is the greatest thing that I have written. That is what I think. I just hope I can find an agent that thinks the same way. I have a lot of time for rewrites and have done four on this particular ms. I suffer from a dreaded form of non Hodgkin's lymphoma and at the moment I just finished up another round of chemo. I have been seriously thinking about writing something on this subject. Not sure yet. I will search for a crit group as you suggested. If you have an opinion on this please let me know.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 01:04:51 PM
Elky, those chicken soup books are a big deal.  Well done.  You mention those in your query letters, right?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 01:05:41 PM
I started something new. Everybody go over the the Community Fiction section and join in.  http://querytracker.net/forum/index.php?topic=299.0
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 01:24:46 PM
Thanks  ;D 

Joan, yes it is a little couple hundred word essay type thing.  Non fiction, usually something that is inspirational, funny, touching, etc.  This is actually the third Chicken Soup book I've been published in.  One essay was put in 2 books, and then this one.  My only publishing credits  :)  but hey, I'm proud of them  ;D
WOW!  how did you get involved with those? 

and, kay, you are obviously correct - one billion dollars at the box office certainly proves more people like mr. cruise than don't!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 01:28:42 PM
I liked the movie, but can't stand Cruise.  I thought the movie had a lot of plot holes in it, but for some reason I still enjoyed it (and I'm usually a harsh critique.)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 01:32:22 PM
Lets talk about the 5 words thing, I don't want to muddy up that thread with conversation.

Joan, I think we should stick to just the 5 words and not include what the last persons added.  For a few reasons.  This way it is more fun because you can see what others added and who.  Combining together and trying to read through from the beginning is difficult because you keep reading the same thing over and over and it's hard to find where the next section starts. We tried something like this earlier and thats how I know its best just to include the new stuff.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 01:38:16 PM
Lets talk about the 5 words thing, I don't want to muddy up that thread with conversation.

Joan, I think we should stick to just the 5 words and not include what the last persons added.  For a few reasons.  This way it is more fun because you can see what others added and who.  Combining together and trying to read through from the beginning is difficult because you keep reading the same thing over and over and it's hard to find where the next section starts. We tried something like this earlier and thats how I know its best just to include the new stuff.

ok
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Post by: elknutswife on September 15, 2007, 01:56:44 PM
Elky, those chicken soup books are a big deal.  Well done.  You mention those in your query letters, right?


Most definitely, although when I first started querying some bitter betties on writer.net told me not to include them and not so subtly implied that I should be ashamed of it and leave it in the past, etc.  Luckily I didn't pay attention to them,  I mean these books always make the bestseller list and are read by millions of people.  Why would I be ashamed to have my name in a book like that?   :crazy:  Strange people.

Anyhow, to Joan's question, my mom has always loved these books and I went to chickensoup.com one day.  They have a list of upcoming books they are accepting submissions for and a huge list of possible upcoming books that you can submit for.  I just picked one and wrote an essay and turned it in.  They pay $200 for the one time use of your work (so I ended up getting $400 for the first essay as they used it in 2 books) and you retain full rights so you can publish it elsewhere.  You won't get rich, but it is really fun to be in a book like that.  I am also in Chicken Soup for the Dieter's Soul and Chicken Soup Healthy Living Series: Back Pain  :)  The last one isn't a big book, but a smaller series (100 pages or so) on health issues.  I was published in this one first, then Dieter's, now Chocolate.  Too late to make a long story short, but there you go  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 03:04:11 PM
did I hear Tom Cruise?

ew.

he's crazy  :crazy:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 03:24:50 PM
Yeah, I'm not a big TC fan either.  I think it really stands for Totally Crazy.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 04:23:38 PM
but you have to admit, Suri Cruise is the most adorable celebrity baby ever!
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Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 04:36:53 PM
but you have to admit, Suri Cruise is the most adorable celebrity baby ever!

That's because she was built in a genetics lab....
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Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 04:38:03 PM
i dunno - she looked like a generic baby to me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 04:41:57 PM
If Suri gets a boo-boo, she doesn't bleed, she leaks oil.

I drive by Scientology Headquarters a few times a year.  It's spooky.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 04:53:24 PM
oh my...that's scary...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 04:55:53 PM
Only in California.
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Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 06:56:27 PM
So I'm working on a new project.  It's called the "Auto Writer."  So I can sit down and watch the Top Model marathon, and my novel will continue to progress.
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Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 07:02:56 PM
can it be set to 'Heroes', too?  if so, put me on the waiting list, please!
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Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 07:06:39 PM
LOVE heroes! the new season premieres on my birthday!  ;D
But you can't forget grey's anatomy...I mean, helloooooo. Mcdreamy, mcsteamy...I wonder what's next?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 07:14:03 PM
Definitely for Heroes.  It's just the Top Model marathon in the background that's distracting me. :)

Chuck's the new show premiering before Heroes, and I saw the pilot.  Pretty funny stuff. 

In other news, I've got three days off in a row this week.  If I don't get some serious writing done, feel free to have me banned from the Tavern for awhile. ;)
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Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 07:20:55 PM
LOVE heroes! the new season premieres on my birthday!  ;D
But you can't forget grey's anatomy...I mean, helloooooo. Mcdreamy, mcsteamy...I wonder what's next?

Ah, so we know the exact b'day now!  Not that you woldn't have fully made sure we all knew, of course.

I have a Grey's story or two... First of all, I went to school with the creator Shonda Rhimes - but she was a year ahead of me and certainly wouldn't remember me.

But my fun story... Years ago back in the screenwriting days, my manager took me to meet a singer named Tara MacLean, who was opening for Dido.  At the time, Dido was just being discovered and had the theme song for the WB show "Roswell."  Anyway, Dido comped the Roswell cast, Tara comped my manager's group (because of a film project that ultimately flopped).  Basically, our two groups were hangin near one another all night... One of the Roswell cast was celebrating her 21st, which was some 2-3 weeks earlier.  She was adorable & goofy & dancing like a dork... then she stopped when she saw me making a stunned face at her dance moves... and she blushed!

The she was Katherine Heigl... now known as Izzie.  My manager said I should go introduce myself.

Me> :emb2: "Oh no, no way, have you seen how much of a doll she is!"

Whoops.  My mistake.

And there's one of my cool Hollywood stories.  Or rather, almost cool.  *sigh*
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Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 07:56:51 PM
don't watch grey's - is katherine heigl the cast member who outted the homophobe?  i think that must've taken some guts.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 08:58:25 PM
is katherine heigl the cast member who outted the homophobe?  i think that must've taken some guts.

I don't know if she outed the homophobe... But I do know she was the one who fiercely stood by her gay cast-member friend throughout the whole mess.  She had plenty to say about how inappropriate & bigoted the guy was for making the incendiary remarks.  Tough chick, that one.  And tallDeliciously Very tall.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 15, 2007, 08:59:57 PM
hmm, yes, that must've been what I remembered.  you don't really see that very often.  good for her (you should have asked her out)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 09:10:38 PM
(you should have asked her out)

 :rof2: :rof2: :rof2:

Sure... I woulda' walked right up to her tall deliciousness, looked her dead in the eye, and...  :faint:

S-S-S-S-SPLAT!

Which I now know would've made all y'all fall outta your chairs laughing if that was the Grey's Anatomy story I had to share!  So you're right - I should have.  Damn regrets!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 09:18:48 PM
omg! that's awesome Aud!
jeesh, now I'm jealous.
but anyway, I have a quick sentence I need help with...so where should I post this? I don't want to hijack the tavern with writing talk! *gasp!*
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 09:21:12 PM
I have a quick sentence I need help with...so where should I post this? I don't want to hijack the tavern with writing talk! *gasp!*

Put it in your "HEEEY" thread.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 15, 2007, 09:22:12 PM
So it took several minutes to realize that you weren't talking about outing the HOMOPHONE.

Clearly, my contacts need some extra TLC tonight.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 09:29:48 PM
I have a quick sentence I need help with...so where should I post this? I don't want to hijack the tavern with writing talk! *gasp!*

Put it in your "HEEEY" thread.
ok, that was a nothing thread anyway...darme un momento por favor cuando interrumpo mi hilo propio
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 09:39:07 PM
When in doubt, Lege, you can pretty much assume we're not talking about grammar here in the Tavern.  hell, I just kicked Chelc out for threatening to bring in writing stuff!

And yeah, Chelc... even though I missed that tiny opening wherein I might impress Miss Heigl and eventually make her Mrs. Audal, it's still a fave Hollyweird story.

*sigh*

Damn regrets.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 09:40:34 PM
I hope that Spanish sentence wasn't what you were talking about, Chelc.

I LOVE that 5 word thing. You guys are brilliant!

Now PUH-leeze, go visit our blog, sharing the brain. All six of us have posted. I know it's not that earth shattering, but I want you to see the cool banner I designed. Humor me and I'll leave yez alone. Aud, Loth and Patrick visited. Patrick ASKED MY MOTHER IF SHE HAD BABY PICTURES OF ME on the blog!!!! (she was the post above him).) Our fearless leader...tsk, tsk.

http://sharingthebrain.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 09:42:08 PM
Quote
Damn regrets.
Oh, c'mon...isn't Venice Beach crawling with gorgeous women? Maybe if you'd pull yourself away for this computer... :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 09:43:45 PM
I hope that Spanish sentence wasn't what you were talking about, Chelc.

no, haha. I started a new topic with it.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
jw, I like the logo, but I still don't see any baby pics.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 09:48:50 PM
And you never will... >:D You can search the whole internet, but I'm safe! My childhood is pre-historic captured only on cracking Kodachrome.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 09:51:16 PM
Quote
Damn regrets.
Oh, c'mon...isn't Venice Beach crawling with gorgeous women? Maybe if you'd pull yourself away for this computer... :)

That's true.  And since looks are everything... :wink:

Me & LA women aren't on the same page.  Attracted more to the country mouse than the city mouse.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 15, 2007, 10:00:40 PM
Watcha doing in Lala land, anyway? My friend's son just moved back after a year out there. He couldn't stand it. I know, he may want to crawl back on his elbows and knees after a winter here...but.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 10:15:55 PM
Watcha doing in Lala land, anyway?

All my stuff's here.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 10:17:06 PM
Watcha doing in Lala land, anyway?

All my stuff's here.
:rof3:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 10:54:16 PM
 :woot: :woot:

Poor tavern's gotten all quiet, what with the fiction frenzy going on...

I leave the boards in everyone's capable mischievous hands for a while... I just realized now that I'm off the mantel, I actually have to feed myself!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 15, 2007, 10:56:01 PM
but it's 11...haven't you already eaten?
oh wait, you're in Cali. it's only 9 there...but that's still late!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 15, 2007, 11:00:40 PM
What ever happened to the Yo-Yo Cafe?  If they were still opened you could grab a bite there.

Aud, thanks for collecting up the pieces of the 5-worder and bringing them all together.  Good job.  And you have a point, this story will be great for Pub America and those other scammers.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 15, 2007, 11:48:08 PM
No problem, Pat... Seemed like it would help us focus on our complete lack of focus (which is the QT forum way, of course!)

Yeah, the Yo-Yo cafe?  Whatever happened to the Deputy?  Do you think her parents caught her --GASP-- writing when she wasn't supposed to be?!

<pulls out special QT CB radio>

Breaker one-nine, Breaker one-nine for Deputy Lane... Over?

Nope.  Nothing.  Things just ain't the same round here without  :draw:  And Dan's all digging in to his new school year routine.

Chelc - it's all on you now!  You must fly the flag high for your brethren!   :flag:  (but not that flag - the opposite-of-surrender flag)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2007, 08:18:01 AM
Yes, Chelc is our original teen member and she might just be the only remaining one.  But (and here the parent in me prevails) school should come first.  But I do hope they find some time to pop in and say hello.  Dan does now and then.  Hi Dan.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 16, 2007, 08:21:53 AM
But (and here the parent in me prevails) school should come first.  But I do hope they find some time to pop in and say hello. 

yup, I agree.  socializing with 1) adults 2) online should be the last item(s) on the agenda, but it is nice to say 'howdy' once and again.

Hi Dan.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 16, 2007, 09:29:24 AM
Yes! When my daughter informed me last night that a sportswriter from Ireland approached her in a chat room that said for eleven-year olds only and asked for her phone number, I went...*gulp*. My daughter's sensible and told him to stuff it. But the folks on here are all appropriate, if slightly insane! You should see some of the trash out there.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 16, 2007, 10:40:10 AM
Holy Weasel!  JW - did you report the sportswriter guy?  Where do you report such a thing - would it be that Perverted Justice organization?

Thankfully, I'm sure even Chris Hanson himself could look at our forum boards and think we're all just harmless wingnuts.  Did any of you catch the story about the Texas prosecuter who took his own life when a predator-sting caught up with him -- and now the guy's family is suing NBC for lotsa millions claiming them responsible for his actions... And this is getting way too heavy - article here if interested: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070831/NEWS07/708310394/1009 (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070831/NEWS07/708310394/1009)

Now then, high-schoolers - go do your homework!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 16, 2007, 12:31:40 PM
ah, I'm always on the computer anyway. QT isn't going to affect my school work. it'll just stall it for awhile!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 16, 2007, 12:51:49 PM
ACK!  i didn't mean to imply that we were predators, singly or as a group!  ACK!  i just meant, well... we're overwhelmingly old, relatively speaking, and unless there're as many teens as adults, it's offbalance and....

sheesh.

there's really no getting out of that hole, is there?

but, it does make me think... if we grow there may be some ickiness joining in our reindeer games.  how would we protect less worldly folks on the board from the nasties?  i've never really been on a forum with such a wide age range (and I love it - makes this place really interesting).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2007, 01:49:27 PM
 :draw:
We're all armed, that helps.  And Moderators Aud and Loth are always on the prowl for any undesirables. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 16, 2007, 04:02:52 PM
I am also fully confident in our collective vigilance.

For example, did any of you know that we caught another attempt at an inappropriate for-disturbed-eyes-only spam attack?

No?

That's because we torched 'em real quick-like  :flame:

We're that good!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Legionsynch on September 16, 2007, 06:03:46 PM
I am also fully confident in our collective vigilance.

For example, did any of you know that we caught another attempt at an inappropriate for-disturbed-eyes-only spam attack?

No?

That's because we torched 'em real quick-like  :flame:

We're that good!

And that is why our mods are awesome! :)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: teen-writer on September 16, 2007, 07:19:23 PM
Well hello! (taking a ten minute break from homework)

Chelc, do you think you can take on the posting load for the other teens here? I do try to come on here once in a while to keep my sanity (which is odd because we're all insane).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 16, 2007, 07:21:26 PM
speak for your selves!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2007, 07:37:55 PM
Dan, we were just talking about you.  I would ask how things are going, but you've already logged off.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 16, 2007, 07:49:24 PM
hey there, Seuss-man....buy me a drink?  what's your genre, big boy?


[heeheee, that IS fun!]
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2007, 07:59:20 PM
My genre is whatever genre you like, sugar. :naughty:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 16, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Dan just comes and goes doesn't he?
And Mel...well Mel must have fallen into a coma, that's my reasoning. What else could keep anyone away from this place?
I guess I'm back where I started on here...the only teen!
Darn, and for a good month I was the oldest teen  >:(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 16, 2007, 09:23:52 PM
You love the attention, dontcha?  :wink:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 16, 2007, 09:29:13 PM
maybe... ;D
oh yeah, and I need a drink that has the power to shut out all noise and smell around me (my stepdad strategically chooses to make his disgustingly pungent onion omelet breakfast thing at 9:30 at night and makes no attempt to be quiet. did I mention he spends like an hour and 15 minutes making it?)
so I can't sleep  :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 16, 2007, 09:31:38 PM
You poor child.  That sounds awful.  (no sarcasm intended)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 16, 2007, 10:07:57 PM
Try earplugs, and one of those sleep masks. Maybe one of those electronic room fresheners for the smell? Onion omelettes at 9:30? Echhh.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 01:59:43 PM
Dan stopped by?  Well then, I'll have to give him karma for effort (even though he's still reaping the benefits of a 50 karma b'day or something!).  Seems like he's earned it... I gave him the two-posts-per-week challenge, and he's met it.

By the way - are you back behind the wheel yet?  Everything going OK there?

We may need you back here, as we're still awaiting word on whether or not Chelc survived the Onion Omelette fiasco.  If not, you're next in charge!

Chelc??  Good God - Chelc, are you all right?!?!

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 03:37:40 PM
Has anyone noticed how quiet the tavern has been since we started the 5 word thread?  Judging from the story developing over there, I would assume that there would be a lot more drinking going on.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 03:57:16 PM
Yes, I've noticed the silence...

And pat, have you noticed how quickly the 5-word thread is bringing you to 1,000 posts?

I smell a...

 :wine: :woo: :p3: :p1: :p2: :duet: :duet: :taz: :dance: :dance: :woot: :band: party.....
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 04:02:24 PM
Any reason to pop the cork is good with me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 04:27:45 PM
hahahaha
I just went around the house with fabreeze air refreshener and then everything smelt like tangerines! much better than pudrid icky onion omlette things
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 04:29:49 PM
Hey Emsky!  Are you still on or did that 5 word marathon wear you out  ;D  Just thought I'd check and see how my virtual twin was doing   ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 04:35:37 PM
Chelc, is the 5 word thread hard to follow?  Because I think that's the point.  Don't try to understand it, just enjoy it.  You have a staring roll in the story now, but there is no telling how long that will last.  I believe the point is to be as off-the-wall as possible, while still maintaining the continuity of the previous posts.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 04:44:26 PM
no, I get the point. I was just picking on you guys.  :wag:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 04:49:16 PM
Well then, lets see what you got.  :draw:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
I've already warned Patrick... I plan on taking the 5-Words thread into exciting and bewildering territory if given the chance!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
I've already warned Patrick... I plan on taking the 5-Words thread into exciting and bewildering territory if given the chance!

I'm still waiting.  Just kidding, I think we passed bewildering a while back.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 05:18:38 PM
Sorry to have missed you Elk- I had to do the parent thing.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 05:41:40 PM
No problem, I posted and then had to do the parent thing myself  ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 06:00:09 PM
Twins 'til the end.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
Hey Elk... I read this and thought of you:

Two deer hunters were standing on a ridge near a highway in rural
Minnesota on the opening day of deer season. They both saw a
trophy-class buck meandering towards them. As the one hunter
raised his gun to shoot, a funeral procession came slowly by.

The hunter lowered his gun, took off his hat, and stood with his
head bowed until the procession was past. Of course by then, the
deer was long gone.

The other hunter exclaimed "Wow! That was the most sportsmanlike
act I've ever seen! You allowed this trophy buck to escape while
showing such compassion and kindness toward someone's
dearly departed. You are a great humanitarian and a shining
example to sportsmen throughout the world!"

The first hunter nodded and said;
"Well, we were married for 42 years".


Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 06:07:18 PM
 :rof2: :rof2: :rolf: :rolf: :rof2: :rof2:

Oh my gosh!  Karma for that!  That is so my husband, except he probably would have taken a shot and just said "She would have understood"    ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 06:21:38 PM
 :rof3:
Yup, karma for that one.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 06:58:45 PM
Hear ye, hear ye!

Welcome to the first ever Quilkeepers' Tavern Contest!

Here's your task, accept if you wish... I'm trying to come up with a fictional band name - and a bad one at that. (Note to those who know what my project is about - I assure you that this is just a supporting one-note joke and not the heart of the story, which is well flushed out)

The name of the band needs to evoke the 1960's culture... A few that I've messed around with include Timothy Leary's Daughters, Wood-Stalkers and The Poppyseeds.  Basically I'm gunning for a laugh, so feel free to be irreverant and/or just plain absurd.

Winner gets the legendary double-karma!  And by participating, you all waive the right to sue my butt if I put your idea into play!  And OK, I may even include you in the acknowledgements.

I'll announce the winner at 6PM California time tomorrow.  Remember, it's a purely subjective selection process, so please don't smite me if I don't select your entry.  Entries?  Yeah, make as many suggestions as you want.

And most importantly... HAVE FUN and THANKS!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 17, 2007, 07:20:40 PM
Well, here goes. I love doing this. Probably won't win though.

Velvet Lambchop
Prism Pudding

or even better, my husband's actual vintage band from the 60's. (I asked him. He says it's yours if you want it. It's the real deal).

The Pineapple Bedspread
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 07:32:27 PM
Don't sell yourself short, JW - those are some formidable entries!

Though I very much appreciate your husband's consent (and please do thank him for me), I'd be afraid of trampling upon the true past - especially since there were others in the outstandingly named The Pineapple Bedspread!

The game is on!  JW throws down the gauntlet and says Top That!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 07:35:06 PM
Harley and the Hula Hoops
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 17, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
while i cannot even begin to surpass harley and the hula hoops (given your tendency to call chelc a froot loop), i submit:

The Psychotic Wrens

(oh, and Chelc?  just use the classic Tavern come-on line to Patrick - it shuts him up for nearly 24 hours!!)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 17, 2007, 07:45:33 PM
This one is very silly, but a favorite from Moo (what I called my summer getaway).

Box of Meat

It's not a band, but a real thing from this summer. We bought some meat from an organic farm nearby and brought the frozen hunks back in a big cardboard box. My carnivorous son was so excited, you'd think it was Christmas morning. All summer we referred to the "Box of Meat." My friend and I kept saying it would be a great band name (jokingly). So it's yours, Aud. It's my silly phrase and I give it to you freely if you like it. If not, no biggie. It still cracks me up and reminds me of summer. (already receding in the rearview mirror..sniff).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 07:47:54 PM
Hoppy Dreams
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 07:49:29 PM
Shuts me up?  I've been preoccupied with 5 words thread.

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 07:49:46 PM
Psychedelic Windsocks 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 07:55:32 PM
JW throws down the gauntlet and says Top That!
No can do...homework has killed my brain and it shall not function properly for the next 12 hours at least....
or...
how about I relate my homework into a band name!
The Inverted Triangles
Tantalum Vanadium Erbium Nitrogen (translation: look up what letter corresponds with those elements in the periodic table of elements, and what does it spell? ;D)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 17, 2007, 07:58:27 PM
wow, now there's a homework assignment - destroy the dyslexic who is at least good in science.

i love triangles.  don't hate me.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 07:59:52 PM
I've always liked the obtuse ones.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 08:05:40 PM
Did nobody look that up? Gosh, people :rolleyes:
Tantalum=Ta
Vanadium=V
Erbium=Er
Nitrogen=N
TaVErN! duuuhhh
I was gonna spell out audal, but it didn't work. Au=gold, there is no D, and Al=aluminum. so unless GoldDAluminum sounds interesting to anyone...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 08:09:31 PM
Very clever Chelc, but there was no way I was gonna try to figure it out.  I'll karma you for combining the forum with homework.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 17, 2007, 08:11:51 PM
yeah, i'm just waiting for a 'Community Write' for some random theme in P&P (which, honestly, would really be impressive and probably get you an A- at least)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 08:16:16 PM
bah,you think I actually have any idea what's going on in P&P? I gave up letting the meaning of it register in my brain and am now just reading it while letting my mind wander.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 08:23:09 PM
ya know, this is really annoying.
Aud gives us an assignment and then goes poof!

and I can't open the more smilies window anymore--it makes my computer freeze!   :'(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 08:24:30 PM
The Hairy Spiders    ;D
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 08:28:15 PM
Oh, I just paid for that one.  I posted that, looked over, and there was a spider hanging from the ceiling...  Not even joking!!!   :shrug:  :faint:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Chelc on September 17, 2007, 08:29:41 PM
wait, I've got a good one...inspired by something one of my friends said awhile ago in English:
The Puking Rainbows
 :rof2:

p.s. poor Elky! where do you live anyway that gives you so much spider trouble anyway?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
I think we can combine a few of these ideas into something very 60s.  How about "Box of Rainbows"

Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 08:45:50 PM
Sorry - I had phone calls to return.  I know y'all don't believe it, but I do have friends in the non-cyber world.

There is a whole lotta cool stuff here... and still 23 hours 'til deadline!

Chelc - your periodic table stuff is priceless!  Seriously flippin' clever!  I wonder if I might use your technique to spell out something else... hmmm...

I also have been thinking about combining some of your efforts. (Hoppy Poppy Dreams?) 

But alas, JW, Box Of Meat won't work, seeing as how the character who comes up with this name is an enviromental/save-the-planet-and-all-wildlife kind of person.  Box Of Meat would be an affront to her very being!

I also had a prob with smiley window today.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 09:17:03 PM
"the character who comes up with this name is an enviromental/save-the-planet-and-all-wildlife kind of person."

:duh: So now you tell us!  *crumples up long list and aims for the trash* :hmm:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 09:21:21 PM
"the character who comes up with this name is an enviromental/save-the-planet-and-all-wildlife kind of person."

:duh: So now you tell us!  *crumples up long list and aims for the trash* :hmm:

 :rof2: :rof2: :rof2:

That was just about the best use of the smiley-system ever!

band name entry (can I play, too?): Tie-Dye Laughing
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 09:47:26 PM
 :emb2:

Anything else we should know? is it a male group or a female group? Which actual groups would be their competition?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 09:56:06 PM
For a while today the site was running really slooooow, so that might have been why you were having problems with the pop-up smiley page.  But I really don't know.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 09:57:38 PM
Ugh.  Yuck.  Do I have to answer that?  I should, 'cause it's certainly not fair to ask for help without full disclosure.  But it goes against my nature to talk too much about a WIP.

OK, last info dump - it's only fair I share the parameters more than I have.  Female group. 

And to share more would feel like too much of a reveal to me... :sorry:

I'm horrible, I know.  And maybe paranoid.  But I do latch quite close to my ideas... and while I fully trust everyone I play around with here on the boards, who knows who's just reading & collecting ideas?  That's my big hitch about it all.

And pat - in response to your last post -- I also noticed it took just a bit longer to call up a screen... but all seems A-OK now!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:04:02 PM

Classy Chassis

Doesn't go with the environmental theme.. but i thought of it earlier, then assumed you probably had a guy group in mind. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:07:25 PM
Lovin' Star Daughters
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 10:13:37 PM
You're into this, aren't you?  Thanks!  I'll try to be more helpful...

My fave of yours thus far: Psychedelic Windsocks.

But I've sorta morphed it into Psychosomatic Windsocks.  Don't really know why. :shrug:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:15:36 PM
I've been stalling all day and really should get to work. Or go to bed.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 10:20:36 PM
I've actually (accidentally?) found a healthy balance of work writing & play writing today.

I'm sure it'll pass!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:23:09 PM
I inadvertently crushed a friend's plot. 

:cry:
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 10:26:44 PM
Ah, don't cry, Emsky!  As my twin I feel your pain...oh, here I go!!!  :( :( :(
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 10:35:56 PM
Oh no!  I've made women cry!  What is WRONG with me?!

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

You're not talkin' about my plot, are you, EmSky?  Did I mislead you into thinkin' you did?  'Cause... 'cause...  :'( :'( :'( ... You didn't, I swear!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 17, 2007, 10:37:48 PM
Cool, we made a man cry   >:D   J/k Audie  :wag:  na!  J/k again.  Okay I really need some sleep, I'm starting to get a little   :crazy:  well, a little more than usual anyhow  ;D


Okay Emmy, I've been having a blast with you on the 5 word thingy, but I think I am actually going to get in bed before midnight tonight *gasp!*  So I'm thinking if I start now, I might make it  :)  goodnight all!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:42:57 PM
It was innocent, and not anything to do with Audal.

I told a friend that I didn't think a barman would hire cute TEENAGERS, then turn around and say they can't  fraternize with the customers.

He says that's the way it is in (his country). So I said "hallelujah for (his country)- for trusting the people, even when they're drunk!

I shouldn't post the rest, considering Audal's insecurities for leaking plots.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 10:46:19 PM
Oh.  Now I see.  In that case... um... those were crocodile tears.  yeah, I just wasn't able to locate the crocodile smiley!

Oh wait -- are you makin' fun of my paranoia?  Is anyone watching you make fun of me?!  Who knows about this?!?  (looks around)  Where's the damn camera?!

FYI, I'd say your comment to your friend was on target... at least as far as most cultures go, I think.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:51:38 PM
yeah well- it was a downhill domino effect from there, as his plot moved over to the states..

Your paranoia is fine and probably justified. I have 3 people who request PGP encryption. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 10:55:14 PM
Audal- what sort of opening are you hoping for in the 5 word thing?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 11:12:22 PM
Sorry?  Don't understand the question...
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:15:58 PM
Oh.. I thought i saw in a post somewhere that you were waiting for an opening.. because you had an idea just waiting to spring.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 11:20:35 PM
Ah - I see now.  My bad - that was pretty obvious.  I was reading "opening" as "unveiling."  And I thought, "Oh no, no way is this thing getting an actual debut!"

Mostly I'm just looking to take the piece in wild and hilarious new directions.  My plan for the Vegas road trip hasn't quite panned out.  Later I have some exciting new characters I'd like to bring in.  At some point, I'd like to take down the pharmaceutical industry.

Y'know, the usual.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
 :up: Okay then! I can't find where I saw it anyway.

Do you have anyone read what you write? or do you just go for it, as is. And do you use PGP?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:31:05 PM
or is that just way too personal.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 11:35:55 PM
Not too personal - busy typing reply!

If I ask, "What's PGP?"  Does that answer your question?  ;D

I have one friend who's been reading my stuff for a good dozen years now.  She'll get a copy of a first draft, and because she's so in tune with what my brain tries to do, she can tell me if I've executed properly, and if not, what went wrong.  She's pretty fierce, too.  I know I'm not gonna get crazy ego-massaging praise.

I do a ton of in-progress editing, which helps me procure a relatively readable first draft.  I'm pretty tough on myself, too.  I seem to think I can read my writing more as writing than as mine... if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 17, 2007, 11:37:47 PM
Me too.  What is PGP?  (I feel so ignorant  :emb:)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:40:25 PM
It's a free encryption program that the gov wants banned (because it's nearly impossible to crack).
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 11:45:13 PM
Ah... What's up, Patrick!  <slides over a brew>

 :toast:

Why would I use PGP personally?  Or would that be the ultimate in paranoia?

I think another hitch I have when it comes to sharing so publically stems directly from my screenwriting days.  So many people yammered about what they wanted to write or direct as though it were already an achievement.  Rubbed me the wrong way.  Even in private conversations, I don't often reveal much.  Ideally, I sell one of these things and then will be wildly happy to talk all about it!
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:50:47 PM
It *seems* the ultimate paranoia, but also the norm for people who are leery about spreading great ideas.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 17, 2007, 11:53:43 PM
You boys have fun- I got some hay to hit. 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 17, 2007, 11:57:11 PM
Nah, I'm not fully militant about my secrets.  Just try to keep 'em close to the vest. 

Ah, the lone lady leaves the bar...

Patrick - ready to rock?

 :band:  He's a jukebox hero!

Ah, who am I kidding.  Been staring at the monitor for a good 10 hours today.  I gotta decompress.
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Patrick on September 18, 2007, 07:16:52 AM
So PGP is a security thing.  Well, around here we rely on the Woot security algorithm. 

Sorry I didn't answer you last night aud, I must have fallen asleep in my beer (again)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: joanjunkmail on September 18, 2007, 08:22:34 AM
please excuse my ignorance, but why would you encrypt something on your home computer?  i mean, i understand perhaps encrypting your account numbers and passwords, but... is it really likely that someone would come into your house, log on/steal your computer in order to get your manuscript?  i often forget to lock my door.  what have i gotten into???? 
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: Emeraldsky on September 18, 2007, 09:17:02 AM
The work I receive is encrypted- I decrypt, edit, re-encrypt and send via email (again- for only 3 people)- And, when brainstorming plots are included in a brief email, I'll switch to attaching comments as an encrypted attachment instead of a direct email (just for those who use PGP).

For my personal stuff, I think about it upon occasion, but ultimately don't worry in the slightest.

So- for these 3 people, who btw have NO connection to each other- everything I have on my personal computer is in duplicate: encrypted files and open files.

I suppose I should be asking if they want me to delete/destroy all records when I'm done.. that would go back for years (but I don't think that's the kind of memory my computer lacks.. so it would make no dif to me)
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: audal on September 18, 2007, 09:36:43 AM
I certainly don't worry about the manuscript itself being stolen - I know that the second the prose hits the page, it becomes intellectual property by copyright laws.  It's just that I'm squirrelly about sharing anything that sheds light on my idea.  Ultra-sensitive about ideas, because those cannot be copyrighted.

One of my very first posts was a question about plagiarism.  I did lots of research on my idea before I started - mostly trying to find out if anyone had ever written what I wanted to write.  I found a distant cousin of my idea, but after an email exchange with Loth, I was convinced I was in the clear for several reasons.  While true originality in fiction is essentially a myth, I do try to write something fresh... and in turn, don't want anyone beating me to the punch my concept is capable of providing should I execute it properly.

What was the question again?

Is my coffee ready yet?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: justwrite on September 18, 2007, 10:07:08 AM
You were up bright and early, Aud!
Phew. I went to bed at a normal hour for once and look at this facscinating conversation I missed. I was paranoid about my plot and title to at the beginning (remember?) But querying like I am, far and wide, it's silly. But I am keeping the plot of my WIP under loosely under wraps. I feel like Audal, if it's already written, then what's the diff, but I don't want the idea from my WIP stolen out from under me. And as far as the movie biz, I know it's fierce. A friend of mine (he's a screenwriter and director) offered to look at my first book to consider buying the film rights but insisted I copyright it first. The "Brain" went wild and screamed NO! So I let the matter drop. I doubt he was serious since I see him all the time and he hasn't said boo.

Thanks all of you who came to Share the Brain. Keep checking up on us. We'll be posting new topics weekly. This week it's
Why do I write?

Oh and good news: Our third member just landed an agent for her middle-grade horror novel.  :woot: That's C on the blog.

Anyway, although I am off today (Friday schedule—what a life, eh?) I plan (hope) to eek out a few words on my WIP and send out more queries and make myself kind of scarce. (not that I won't stop in, I just don't want to spend ALL day on here!).

I'm in snail mail mode. What a pain. I mailed out four yesterday. Haven't heard anything on my partials. Since I status queried the partial I sent out in early July and still heard nothing back, I'm considering it toast. Who wants an agent like that anyway?
Title: Re: The Quillkeepers' Tavern
Post by: elknutswife on September 18, 2007, 10:15:55 AM
Another rejection, although this one was sent back in June, I think, possibly early July.  Long enough ago that I had already crossed it off and moved on, so it wasn&