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Title: Is he kidding?
Post by: Aiala on July 08, 2009, 01:06:05 PM
I had to laugh, today I got a form rejection from William Clark after four months. I mean, what sort of delusional mindset would lead anyone to think that I'd put my life on hold for that long?? Good lord, I wouldn't wait four months for the Queen of Sheba!  (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)

~A~
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: AshK on July 08, 2009, 01:25:36 PM
Too bad you couldn't bounce it back with an "Out of Patience" response.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: JeanneT on July 08, 2009, 03:19:09 PM
I once had an agent ask to see a partial after (literally) a year. I reluctantly agreed and then she had the nerve to NEVER RESPOND TO THE PARTIAL. (and yes, I did follow up. Amazing what we sometimes put up with)
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: Aiala on July 08, 2009, 03:55:19 PM
Amazing what we sometimes put up with.

So true. I let myself be jerked around for two years before I finally took control of my own destiny. Still, I don't feel bad because everything happens at the proper time, for the right reason. It's all good.   :)

~A~   

Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: twoheadknight on July 09, 2009, 01:36:51 PM
I just had one come back after 9 months  :crazy:.  The agent said she always responds within three, so I'd nudged at 5... no response.  Nudged at 6... no response.  Gave up. 

Then the rejection came at 9  :wink:.  Fun times all around.

You just never know.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: JeanneT on July 09, 2009, 03:09:25 PM
It was so rude, I refuse to nudge further. I consider it a no and one that would make me refuse to EVER work with that agent whatever she said.

I've had a friend assure me that NO agent is better than a BAD agent. And that is beyond "bad". No way I'd care to work with someone who treats people like that.

Unsolicited queries--fine. Something you've asked for--NO!

She promised a response within six weeks and six months later she WOULD be still sitting on the manuscript except that I've written her off.

Edit: If she came back asking for more, which I'm sure will not happen, she would get a very emphatic no. I've gotten all kinds of rejections, ignored queries, etc in my career. This is the first one from an agent that ever made me truly angry.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: MaryL on July 09, 2009, 03:19:27 PM
You have every right to be pissed-off, JeanneT.  Non-response to requested material is unacceptable. 
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: Nostrabuttus on July 09, 2009, 04:52:00 PM
I had to laugh, today I got a form rejection from William Clark after four months. I mean, what sort of delusional mindset would lead anyone to think that I'd put my life on hold for that long?? Good lord, I wouldn't wait four months for the Queen of Sheba!  (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)

~A~

Only four months. How lucky can you get? It is those quick rejections that hurt me. I've got queries that have been out for a couple of years now. Until I hear back on a query, I consider it an active possibility, and it is certainly not considered a rejection.

My totals thus far:

1598 rejections out of 1612 queries sent.

That still leaves 14 possibilities for finding the right agent for me. I re-query the same agents sometimes to offer them a second chance. A few out of that 14 are obviously considering it.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: MaryL on July 09, 2009, 05:08:11 PM
I had to laugh, today I got a form rejection from William Clark after four months. I mean, what sort of delusional mindset would lead anyone to think that I'd put my life on hold for that long?? Good lord, I wouldn't wait four months for the Queen of Sheba!  (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)

~A~

Only four months. How luck can you get? It is those quick rejections that hurt me. I've got queries that have been out for a couple of years now. Until I hear back on a query, I consider it an active possibility, and it is certainly not considered a rejection.

My totals thus far:

1598 rejections out of 1612 queries sent.

That still leaves 14 possibilities for finding the right agent for me. I re-query the same agents sometimes to offer them a second chance. A few out of that 14 are obviously considering it.



 :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2: :rof2:

I'm so glad you showed back up over here, Nostra.  I've missed you.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: bodwen on July 09, 2009, 05:32:20 PM
I've got about 4 manuscript non-responders, going back 11 months.  I haven't closed them out because I'm waiting to see how they'll respond if I tell them I have an offer. 

(Hmmm... who do I chose?  The agent who read my stuff and believed in it? Or the ones who blew me off for almost a year, until I told them someone else might be able to wring a buck or two out of my writing?  Decisions, decisions...)
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: MaryL on July 09, 2009, 05:40:04 PM
I've got about 4 manuscript non-responders, going back 11 months.  I haven't closed them out because I'm waiting to see how they'll respond if I tell them I have an offer. 

(Hmmm... who do I chose?  The agent who read my stuff and believed in it? Or the ones who blew me off for almost a year, until I told them someone else might be able to wring a buck or two out of my writing?  Decisions, decisions...)

They requested a full and didn't respond?  Holy smokes.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: bodwen on July 09, 2009, 06:06:52 PM
The one from 11 months ago was a notorious cad.  As far as I know, nobody hears back from him, unless its a yes.

The next was from OE right before the scandal broke.  I think I caught them at a "lie-low" phase.

The third told me that she rarely reps fiction, but she'd like to have a look anyway.  I guess I was supposed to take that as a "no, unless I say differently"?

There is still hope that I'll hear back from the latest one, since it was only 2 months ago.  I got another request yesterday and I'm learning to channel all my enthusiasm into the most current.

But if they can't spot Nostrabuttus's obvious genius, what hope is there for me?   :(
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: JeanneT on July 09, 2009, 06:41:49 PM
Ha! Nostrabuttus scares them speechless.  :eek:
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: isinglass on July 10, 2009, 03:55:03 AM
If they refuse to respond -- or are rude -- then they're off my list permanently.

Yeah, like they care.

The height of rude was the agent who asked for a full, then rejected it with a form rejection that didn't even say "Dear Writer." THEN, she refused to return the manuscript, in spite of several followups from me. She had the return ms. box with postage. I guess she decided to steal it and slap a different label on it for an Xmas package or something.

I'm already begging them to let me hire them and give them 15% of the take. I do have my limits.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: AshK on July 10, 2009, 06:13:21 AM
I've got about 4 manuscript non-responders, going back 11 months.  I haven't closed them out because I'm waiting to see how they'll respond if I tell them I have an offer. 


Sometimes that doesn't even do it. I had two partials and a full non-respond to an offer alert.

The full was a snail-mail deal sent the week before, too.

That really burned me.
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: HorsebackWriter on July 17, 2009, 06:59:12 PM

A few weeks ago I rec'd a QUERY rejection -- it only took ten months -- and did a doubletake bec. it was my PREVIOUS novel.

Lol!

Definitely didn't query them this second time around. I'm shooting for publishing while alive, not posthumously!  :yes:

Em

Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: DHE on July 21, 2009, 03:22:04 PM
Er...is four months a long time to wait?  Haha.  I guess I just hear so much that the industry is so slow, and not to even nudge until at least 3 months have gone by, that four months seems like a normal waiting time for those agents not reputed to be lightning fast.  I am now assuming...I'm wrong?
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: Aiala on July 21, 2009, 03:52:38 PM
Er...is four months a long time to wait?  

It's an eyeblink in agent/publisher time, which is not unlike geologic time, by which such things as continental drift and mountain erosion is measured.

The only time they hurry is when they must rush out a quickie bit of trash like the Carrie Prejean book so that they can cash in before everyone forgets who she was.   :)

~A~



Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: Jessica V. on July 21, 2009, 04:42:08 PM

The only time they hurry is when they must rush out a quickie bit of trash like the Carrie Prejean book so that they can cash in before everyone forgets who she was.   :)

~A~


Or Michael Jackson books!
Title: Re: Is he kidding?
Post by: Abbey on July 25, 2009, 03:07:52 AM
I just got a rejection on a full after waiting 19 months (this was a big agency, too - not an inexperienced one).  I had sent 4 polite e-nudges with no response.  Yesterday, I sent them an email saying that another agency had just requested an exclusive full (yea!) and I needed an answer from them.  Within an hour, I got a very-standard, very-generic rejection.  Go figure...