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Offline Tigerbunny

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Hi.  I'm about ready to e-publish my book, but would seriously like help with a final, final edit, marketing (back page bio) and converting the book into the e-book format.  Are there any e-book publishers out there that offering all these services under one roof?  Thanks!

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Hi, Tigerbunny!

It sounds like what you're looking for would be exactly what a small press/publisher would provide. And there are tons of them out there! Some of them offer the books they publish in ebook form only (e.g., on Kindle, ITunes, etc.), and some also offer print versions for their titles.

You might check out any threads on here and other sites about specific ones to see author experiences, etc. and consider querying them if you want to go that route.

On September 10th (ooh, a week from today), there's another #pitmad, where you can tweet your pitch for your story and see if you get any faves from these presses. A lot of small presses frequent twitter pitch parties in search of new books that sound of interest for them to publish.

One thing to keep in mind as you vet them is that, from what I hear, a lot of new presses tend to fold, which can then tie up rights to your book. So, you might want to go with a small press that's been around for awhile and has become more established.   

Short of these small presses, I'm not sure if places like Smashwords offer any help with editing, marketing, or developing your blurb/bio. I believe they do help with ebook formatting so your book should be good to go for various formats, though.  Anything beyond that, you'd probably be hiring a freelance editor or going with a really good CP for one last edit and use the awesome query help forum (and other resources) on here to do a final brainstorm/edit for your blurb/bio and marketing strategies possibly.
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I don't know that there is. If you're self-publishing, that's kind of the point of the "self" part. You're responsible for that.

A final edit would require hiring a freelance editor. Back bio (if you mean what it says about you) you are normally responsible for even in the big five. And there are some people/services that will convert your book into ebook formats, but again, they're like freelancers, so you would need to hire them.

But maybe Farseer or someone else who does a lot of self and indie publishing knows of something.
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Ferocious Bunny,

I have self-published 5 ebooks, and would be happy to advise you anyway I can. I don't know how much research you've done on self-publishing ebooks, but you might want to check these guys out, Smashwords [ https://www.smashwords.com/ ] and go from there. Once you're ready to go do your homework on where and how to sell. Youtube has a lot on selling e-books online.

I don't use Smashwords although I've heard wonderful things about them. I sell on Amazon (of course) and from my own websites. I found the simplest and safest way to sell directly to readers is using e-Junkie [ http://www.e-junkie.com/ ] for downloads and PayPal for processing credit cards. Most of my sales came from my websites where I make $9.36 on a ten dollar book that is deposited in my acct in three days. Amazon pays me only $6.86 and I have to wait 60 days for my money. f**kers! >:( But you have to have an Amazon presence.

I use InDesign to layout and convert all my ebooks to pdf, epub, and mobi (Kindle). You can check out one of my sites to see how I do it. http://roofmanthespy.com/

GoodReads also has a self-publishing community you might want to check out. I made some good friends there.

Good luck. I hope this helps. If I can be of any further help, you can message me.

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Thanks Guys:

Lora Palmer:  Thank you so much.  It didn't occur to me that Twitter had anything like that.  As for small presses that also do e-books, I didn't know about that either.  Also a good point, was that small presses do fold all the time and I should take the time to do my homework on them.  Great advice.  Thanks!

Hi Falen: Thanks. I really don't want my book to go out without a good edit.  I've been staring at it so long, I can't see my own flaws.  I've got some friends who are willing to be Beta readers, but they are not editors.  I guess I'm going to just have to cough up some money and hire someone.  I see so many books with typographical mistakes and bad grammer that I cringe when I think I might be one of them.  :)

Hi JohnPansini:I've just started doing my research on self-publishing and have a headache already.  I have to tell you I laughed out loud at your f**kers!  Too funny!  Also, I've heard wonderful things about InDesign and am definitely going to check out your website on how to do it.  I heard about Calibre, too, and even downloaded it, but I'm not very good at these kinds of things and so, haven't even tried it yet.  Thank you so much for letting me message you for advice.  I promise I won't be a pest.  If you know of anyone who might be interested in professionally editing the book, I sure would be interested.  Thank you!

**  Just checked out the e-junkie website.  Wow.  I like it! Thanks!
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Ferocious Bunny,

I used Edit-My-Novel [ http://www.edit-my-novel.com/ ] . Cara Lockwood will do your first 500 words for free. Please mention that I recommended you check her out.

I would suggest you get your novel 100% ready to go before you get seriously into the tech side of self-publishing. There is a lot to learn. But I did it and so can you.

I used Calibre to get my book covers into documents. It is good, but InDesign is what the pros use. And the technical end of self publishing and web design is not something you can learn in a week. Take your time and don't get frustrated. Nothing is more deadly than a rampaging rabbit! :mad:

Please check out my latest thread when you get a chance. It involves a novel I self-published: http://querytracker.net/forum/index.php?topic=19733.0

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JohnPansini:  Thank you so much for the referral.  I surely could use this Cara Lockwood.  My aunt, a professional, started the editing process, but sadly died before the end.  She got about 3/4 of the way through, so Cara Lockwood might be just what I'm looking for.  I will most definitely check her out.  The novel is  99% ready to go.  With a final edit, should be 100%.  Thank you!!!  Also, am not going to even attempt to convert this book by myself.  I'm just not capable of that kind of technical slight of hand.  If I know anything, I know my limitations.  Going to check the website out now and thanks again!!

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There are lots of editors and they do different things and charge different amounts. Do you need a developmental edit, line edit or proofread? Some editors even specialise in certain genres. I have one for romance/historical another for my zombie books. On average it will cost anywhere from $500 to $2,000 depending on what you need/want done. It's hard to give recommendations without knowing more about genre and what you need and your budget.

Formatting - I do ebooks myself, it's not difficult and I keep e-books really clean, simple and uncluttered. You can even upload a clean word doc if you want and Amazon or D2D will convert it for you. For paperbacks I use a specialist formatter, as CreateSpace requirements are a pain in the @rse and for hard copies I want something fancier with drop caps, fleurons and chapter headings. It's worth $150 to have someone else do the job. I use Colleen at Write. Dream. Repeat. http://www.wdrbookdesign.com/ She is fabulous but busy, you do need to book a slot well in advance (ie: at least a month to two months out).

Marketing is up to you - whether you self publish or go trad that's something you need to get to grips with. For indies it's even more important. I would suggest hanging out at the k-boards and soaking everything up like a sponge. This is an enormous amount of information there on every single aspect of self publishing, marketing and advertising and tools.

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Hi Farseer and thank you for the recommendation.  The genre is Urban Fantasy/Fantasy/Sci-fi.  I would love to find someone to do a developmental edit/final edit.  As for formatting, I'm going to hire someone for that.  From what I understand, it's worth hiring a professional.  I keep hearing horror stories.  But, you have completely lost me on the marketing.  I know it's early morning, but I don't know what you mean by " go trad" and "K-boards".   (I really am a newbie at this).   

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I'm doing the same research so appreciate all this info

also. Rochelle, Slightly Small on the forum, does editing and formatting
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Re: Are there e-book publishers that also help with editing and bio's and format?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2015, 07:59:46 AM »
K-boards, if I'm right, is a forum for indie and self publishers. (does the K stand for Kindle, farseer?)
There's a TON of hepful info there on self pubbing, from technical up.

Go trad would mean traditional/trade published. Having a publisher or house put your book out
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Re: Are there e-book publishers that also help with editing and bio's and format?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2015, 08:43:13 AM »
TB,

If you are looking to hire a professional to format your book, please keep me in mind. I've formatted all my ebooks, including my nonfiction ebook, ROOFMAN: A True Story of Cold War Espionage. And this ebook has embedded audio, photos, figures, etc. And since I use chapter titles, each chapter page is like a book cover.

You have to see what I've done to believe it! http://roofmanthespy.com/ I'm proud to say I designed all my website, too.

I use InDesign CS5 and can format in mobi (Kindle), epub, and pdf. I can also lay it out for print.

And since your ebook - I love doing them BTW - will be my first "job" I can charge you less than other book formatters. And do a helluva better job, too!   

Like I said, please keep me in mind,
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Re: Are there e-book publishers that also help with editing and bio's and format?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2015, 03:28:01 PM »
But, you have completely lost me on the marketing.  I know it's early morning, but I don't know what you mean by " go trad" and "K-boards".   (I really am a newbie at this).   

Marketing is your job, whatever way you publish. Even those authors who traditionally publish (ie: agent, Big 5 contract) still need to market and promote. Obviously the extent is different, and I believe the higher your advance the more the publisher will do as they have a vested interest in seeing the book succeed. You need some sort of plan in mind, otherwise your book will sink among the 2,000,000 other e-books on Amazon.

K-Boards is the kindle boards, they have a writers cafe where indie authors discuss everything. It is the most amazing place and I have learned so much from hanging out there. They also have yellow pages listing where you can find professionals for cover art, editing, formatting, web design, virtual PAs etc.
http://www.kboards.com/index.php?board=60.0

Personally I do e-book formatting myself and keep it really clean and simple. I would be wary of getting anyone to format a fancy e-book as Amazon charges a delivery fee. Fancy chapter headings and flourishes look nice until you realise how much its carving off your royalty because of the file size. Plus I prefer to keep it easy to read on a device. I save the fancy layouts for paperback so it delivers a greater experience for the reader. But its your money and that's just one of the choices you have to make in this business.
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Re: Are there e-book publishers that also help with editing and bio's and format?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2015, 04:03:21 PM »
Couldn't disagree more with this:

"I would be wary of getting anyone to format a fancy e-book as Amazon charges a delivery fee. Fancy chapter headings and flourishes look nice until you realise how much its carving off your royalty because of the file size. Plus I prefer to keep it easy to read on a device. I save the fancy layouts for paperback so it delivers a greater experience for the reader. But its your money and that's just one of the choices you have to make in this business."

What holds true in web design is also true in ebook formatting: People respond to color. If you have a good story that's well-written, color and "fancy layouts" will add to the reader's experience. Back 100 years ago some novels had color and most had illustrations. (See the Wizard of Oz.) It's only when printing costs began to mount that the practice was discontinued.

Nowadays, It's just electrons, people, so why not go for it? If you are lucky enough to sell 1,000,000 copies, then I suppose delivery charges might amount to more than a hill of beans.

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Re: Are there e-book publishers that also help with editing and bio's and format?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2015, 04:09:31 PM »
This is a really dumb question, but for people who self pub like Farseer but not through create space, do you have to set up your own company to get it sold on amazon?
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